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Information on Medicare-Approved Drug Discount Cards

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CMS Outreach - 18 Jun 2004 19:06 GMT
Hello,

I thought this group would be interested in some information about
Medicare and the new prescription drug benefits that are available. If
you or someone you know is on Medicare, this information may be of use
to you.

Medicare recipients can now sign up for a Medicare-approved drug
discount card, which may save them 10-25 percent on their prescription
drug expenses. In addition, low-income seniors are eligible for a
credit of up to $600 on their prescription drug purchases.

Please visit http://www.medicare.gov/cardinfo/15.htm to find out which
discount card best meets your needs, based on the type of
prescriptions you need. You can also find out if you qualify for the
$600 credit. Remember, http://www.medicare.gov is your best source for
information on the new Medicare prescription drug benefits.

Regards,
CMS Outreach
onlineoutreach@cms.hhs.gov
CaptainKrunch - 20 Jun 2004 05:56 GMT
The "medicare approved" discount card is a f.cking joke.

The fact is that prices can be had for as cheap through online entities and
walk-in warehouse stores as these damn cards.  Additionally if patients
qualify for the approved card they would most likely also qualify for cards
such as the Pfizer card, Together RX card, etc and have a $15 copay for many
popular drugs.

CaptainKrunch

> Hello,
>
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> CMS Outreach
> onlineoutreach@cms.hhs.gov
Pumbaa - 20 Jun 2004 15:16 GMT
When I first heard about these cards I wondered where the money savings was
to come from. What wonderful company is going to cut its prices nationwide.
If it is a good idea why not include cards to save money on doctors and
hospitals?  I saw a cartoon in a local paper.  It showed a huge fish about
to eat a much smaller fish. The small fish was savings from a drug discount
card and the large fish was the pharmaceutical company raising its wholesale
prices!

Why is it that real working Americans don't have the same health care
benefits as the elected swine that rule over us in Washington, DC?

> The "medicare approved" discount card is a f.cking joke.
>
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> CaptainKrunch
Randy R - 20 Jun 2004 17:51 GMT
Other than the $600 credit (if the patient qualifies on income) and any
possible later rebates from the manufacturers  (DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH); the
discount on the Medicare Approved Drug Cards comes out of the pharmacy's
pocket. Then since we are adding a prescription processor into the mix we
add a dollar per RX for transmission fees and the processor's overhead. The
pharmacy is supposed to collect the dollar and then will be billed for it
from the processor or drug card administrator. The independent community
pharmacy gets screwed royally again.

> When I first heard about these cards I wondered where the money savings was
> to come from. What wonderful company is going to cut its prices nationwide.
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> >
> > CaptainKrunch
GMCarter - 21 Jun 2004 12:14 GMT
>Other than the $600 credit (if the patient qualifies on income) and any
>possible later rebates from the manufacturers  (DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH); the
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>from the processor or drug card administrator. The independent community
>pharmacy gets screwed royally again.

Oh, and note also that the bill SPECIFICALLY eliminated the right of
the federal government to NEGOTIATE prices in any fashion. So any
early savings will be wiped out in short order as drug prices in all
classes continue to escalate.

The pharmaceutical industry is completely out of control, quite
literally, which is why the bill was castigated as an ENORMOUS slush
fund/windfall for the industry. One that has more lobbyists on the
hill than Congressmen and Senators combined. An industry that has
purchased power, writes its own legislation, buys its representatives
and destroys democracy.

Count on it. The new cards will not address any of the problems people
on Medicare face in terms of access to medications. Going to Canada is
not the answer either. The companies stop selling some drugs there.
And MANY seniors can't afford the Canadian prices either.

So an industry that is ostensibly designed to help improve health
becomes one that serves the wealthy and allows the rest to suffer and
die. On a global scale, the effects, and their pernicious influence on
trade deals, results in even more widespread suffering and death to
the point I have no trouble calling it genocide. What is happening to
people with HIV/AIDS is indeed perhaps the most incredible, avoidable,
treatable tragedy but for the lies, distortions and nefarious
activities of pharma. They have murdered many of my friends around the
world and more will undoubtedly die.

        George M. Carter
Robert - 20 Jun 2004 19:18 GMT
> When I first heard about these cards I wondered where the money savings was
> to come from. What wonderful company is going to cut its prices nationwide.
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> Why is it that real working Americans don't have the same health care
> benefits as the elected swine that rule over us in Washington, DC?

You are right we should have the right to free drugs.
We should have the right to free food and money to spend with.
I love this country. Lets increase welfare so nobody has to work.

> > The "medicare approved" discount card is a f.cking joke.
> >
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> >
> > CaptainKrunch
Grassy Knoll - 23 Jun 2004 21:54 GMT
When are we gonna see a food discount card and a gas discount card and a
utilities discount card and a housing discount card for seniors?
William A. Noyes - 30 Jun 2004 14:11 GMT
> When are we gonna see a food discount card and a gas discount card and a
> utilities discount card and a housing discount card for seniors?

Some have been cut back. Recall the USDA community handouts of the 60's
to the 90's, food stamps, various subsidized housing programs for low
income, senior low income power discounts, senior property tax discounts
at least in my state.

George Bush was on the grassy knoll.................
.............................................William A. Noyes
 
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