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Food allergies/intolerances to protein (meat, fish, milk, soy, nuts...) & soy/other oils

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Katharine - 25 Apr 2004 17:25 GMT
This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
now canola and safflower oil. I can still eat some beans and brown
rice but high-bulk items are difficult because of (I think)
intestinal/internal swelling -- along with intense headaches,
depression, gas, swelling ankles, etc. -- all of which I have to go to
work with. My diet now is almost all starch and vegetables and olive
oil. I've been to food allergists, who tell me food intolerances are
difficult to diagnose and when I figure it out I should stay away from
whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
suggestions?
markd@toad-net.com - 25 Apr 2004 23:38 GMT
What do the medical specialists say, not some "alergy" guy.  On what basis
have you concluded proteins and fats cause this reaction?

>This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
>years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
>suggestions?
Susan - 26 Apr 2004 02:33 GMT
>>This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
>>years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
>>suggestions?

Yes.  Have you been tested for mastocytosis, or mast cell activation disorder?
There are some treatments that can help, though not rid you of the problem.

Susan
Pizza Gurl - 01 May 2004 02:49 GMT
The "alergy guy"" is the medical expert. Ask your car mechanic rather than
your doctor. They studied nutrition more than your average doctor.

> What do the medical specialists say, not some "alergy" guy.  On what basis
> have you concluded proteins and fats cause this reaction?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> >suggestions?
Robert - 01 May 2004 04:07 GMT
> The "alergy guy"" is the medical expert. Ask your car mechanic rather than
> your doctor. They studied nutrition more than your average doctor.

So if the "alergy guy" said that " food intolerances are
difficult to diagnose and when I figure it out I should stay away from
whatever it is."
Sounds like a real medical expert there. He's the man. Hard to argue with
that keep in mind that he never said you had an allergy in the first place.
That type of nutritional advise is hard to come by for the average doctor.

> > What do the medical specialists say, not some "alergy" guy.  On what basis
> > have you concluded proteins and fats cause this reaction?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > >whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> > >suggestions?
Pizza Gurl - 01 May 2004 21:19 GMT
That's really well done there, Robbiepooh. You invent your own quotations
from a post and then draw conclusions from them about the original
post......LOL

> > The "alergy guy"" is the medical expert. Ask your car mechanic rather than
> > your doctor. They studied nutrition more than your average doctor.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> > > >whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> > > >suggestions?
Jpfanton - 29 Apr 2004 00:46 GMT
Perhaps you should investigate whether or not your digestive system is working
adequately.

Ideally, this should be supervised by a nutritionally oriented doctor.

It may be that you're not producing enough enzymes to properly break down the
higher protein foods. Another possibility is that you're lacking in gastric
acid production, which could also affect your ability to digest foods properly.

You may want to read this book (link below) as a starting point. I think it's a
good resource - both informative and practical.

http://www.doctormurray.com/Btuneup.asp

Best wishes.

John Paul
Pizza Gurl - 29 Apr 2004 04:09 GMT
Magnesium supplemtns to change your body pH level. Bicarbonates work also
taken at the correct times of day. this is a long process, perhaps a couple
of months but it usually eliminates most food allergies. Aches and cramps
usually go with this affliction.

> This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
> years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> suggestions?
Robert - 29 Apr 2004 05:11 GMT
> Magnesium supplemtns to change your body pH level. Bicarbonates work also
> taken at the correct times of day. this is a long process, perhaps a couple
> of months but it usually eliminates most food allergies. Aches and cramps
> usually go with this affliction.

what does pH have to do with allergies, please clarify.

> > This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
> > years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> > suggestions?
Pizza Gurl - 30 Apr 2004 04:04 GMT
Allergies go away with mag supplementation. You analyse it. make sure your
"Science" agrees with it though or your science is in error.

> > Magnesium supplemtns to change your body pH level. Bicarbonates work also
> > taken at the correct times of day. this is a long process, perhaps a
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> > > whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> > > suggestions?
Wolfbrother - 29 Apr 2004 10:02 GMT
> This started in my 30s with a milk-protein allergy and for the last 30
> years has progressed to encompass all protein, soy oil, and I think
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> whatever it is. I've tried NAET; no help there. Does anyone have any
> suggestions?

   Unfortunately pasteurized dairy products can cause all kinds of
problems including allergies like yours.  Also refined carbs like
sugar and flower can cause problems.  There is nothing better you
could do than to completely eliminate refined sugar and flower from
your diet as well as pasteurized dairy.  The best thing for you is to
go on a natural whole foods diet.  You can find info on such a diet at
http://www.westonaprice.org/
       
    I really recommend that you go to that site and start a diet of
real  unprocessed  foods.  By that i mean if it has not existed in the
human diet for thousands of years do not eat it.  Eventualy your
allergies should clear up and you may even be able to start eating raw
dairy products. Try to find high quality raw dairy from 100% or mostly
grass fed cows, especialy butter.  Also bee pollen is great for
allergies and digestive problems.  It is loaded with hurdreds of
enzimes.  Raw colostrum is also great for the immune system wich you
really need to strengthen.  Check out the incredible research of
Weston A. Price and learn the truth about real health and real food.
 
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