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doe - 25 Mar 2004 19:25 GMT
Klin Wochenschr. 1979 Nov 2;57(21):1153-61.  Related Articles, Links  

Hemodilution (HD) in patients with ischemic skin ulcers.

Rieger H, Kohler M, Schoop W, Schmid-Schonbein H, Roth FJ, Leyhe A.

In 25 patients with arterial occlusive disease in the clinical stage IV
according to Fontaine a hemodilution down to an average hematocrit value of
0.31 +/- 0.02 was performed. Eighteen patients had peripheral ulcers of the
lower limbs and 3 patients had ulcers of the upper ones. Four patients had
tissular lesions both at the level of the feet and toes and hand and fingers.
The average age of the patients was 43. Hemodilution was achieved by repeated
withdrawals of approx. 500 ml blood, followed by reinfusion of the autologous
plasma associated with infusion of substitutive solutions of low-molecular
weight dextran to avoid hypovolemia. In all patients with peripheral ulcers of
the upper limbs, with no exception, a good to a very good clinical effect was
obtained ranging from extended to complete healing. The healing tendency of
lesions in the feet and toe region was on the whole less marked and depended
basically on the total number of vascular impediments found in one patient. The
rheological and hemodynamic mechanism of the therapeutic effect of
hemodilution, the preliminary criteria for indicating this therapy and its
observed complications are discussed.

PMID: 513607 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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markd@toad-net.com - 25 Mar 2004 19:25 GMT
And what exactly are we to make of this, how does it relate to any body of
theory, to what practical use is it, and to what goal can it be useful?
Without this information it is but another random abstract plucked from
the web, one among thousands of such.
doe - 26 Mar 2004 03:48 GMT
>Subject: Re: festering skin ulcers / bloodletting

Klin Wochenschr. 1979 Nov 2;57(21):1153-61.  Related Articles, Links  

Hemodilution (HD) in patients with ischemic skin ulcers.

Rieger H, Kohler M, Schoop W, Schmid-Schonbein H, Roth FJ, Leyhe A.

In 25 patients with arterial occlusive disease in the clinical stage IV
according to Fontaine a hemodilution down to an average hematocrit value of
0.31 +/- 0.02 was performed. Eighteen patients had peripheral ulcers of the
lower limbs and 3 patients had ulcers of the upper ones. Four patients had
tissular lesions both at the level of the feet and toes and hand and fingers.
The average age of the patients was 43. Hemodilution was achieved by repeated
withdrawals of approx. 500 ml blood, followed by reinfusion of the autologous
plasma associated with infusion of substitutive solutions of low-molecular
weight dextran to avoid hypovolemia. In all patients with peripheral ulcers of
the upper limbs, with no exception, a good to a very good clinical effect was
obtained ranging from extended to complete healing. The healing tendency of
lesions in the feet and toe region was on the whole less marked and depended
basically on the total number of vascular impediments found in one patient. The
rheological and hemodynamic mechanism of the therapeutic effect of
hemodilution, the preliminary criteria for indicating this therapy and its
observed complications are discussed.

PMID: 513607 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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markd@toad-net.com - 26 Mar 2004 03:44 GMT
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And what exactly are we to make of this, how does it relate to any body of
theory, to what practical use is it, and to what goal can it be useful?
Without this information it is but another random abstract plucked from
the web, one among thousands of such.
doe - 26 Mar 2004 04:23 GMT
>Subject: Re: festering skin ulcers / bloodletting

>And what exactly are we to make of this, how does it relate to any body of
>theory, to what practical use is it, and to what goal can it be useful?
>Without this information it is but another random abstract plucked from
>the web, one among thousands of such.

It is called bloodletting ..

Bloodletting .. is ..good ..

Klin Wochenschr. 1979 Nov 2;57(21):1153-61.  Related Articles, Links  

Hemodilution (HD) in patients with ischemic skin ulcers.

Rieger H, Kohler M, Schoop W, Schmid-Schonbein H, Roth FJ, Leyhe A.

In 25 patients with arterial occlusive disease in the clinical stage IV
according to Fontaine a hemodilution down to an average hematocrit value of
0.31 +/- 0.02 was performed. Eighteen patients had peripheral ulcers of the
lower limbs and 3 patients had ulcers of the upper ones. Four patients had
tissular lesions both at the level of the feet and toes and hand and fingers.
The average age of the patients was 43. Hemodilution was achieved by repeated
withdrawals of approx. 500 ml blood, followed by reinfusion of the autologous
plasma associated with infusion of substitutive solutions of low-molecular
weight dextran to avoid hypovolemia. In all patients with peripheral ulcers of
the upper limbs, with no exception, a good to a very good clinical effect was
obtained ranging from extended to complete healing. The healing tendency of
lesions in the feet and toe region was on the whole less marked and depended
basically on the total number of vascular impediments found in one patient. The
rheological and hemodynamic mechanism of the therapeutic effect of
hemodilution, the preliminary criteria for indicating this therapy and its
observed complications are discussed.

PMID: 513607 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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John 'the Man' - 31 Mar 2004 14:49 GMT
Once upon a time, our fellow markd@toad-net.com
  rambled on about "Re: festering skin ulcers / bloodletting."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

>And what exactly are we to make of this?

I know!

Mark 'the Toad' is an idiot.  :(

Just my opinion.  But, I am *right* as usual!
 
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