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Myth of nicotine addiction.

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Sairiliyan Siyaska - 25 Feb 2007 09:58 GMT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking

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So I was standing in market with fresh vegetables around me. Doctors
advice that eating fresh vegetables is good for health. I was hungry
and I had money in my pocket. Why I was standing still there?

That was moment of truth. I was feeling inside to go to restaurant and
eat same food which everyone in this town, country or world eat
everyday.

I was feeling urge, craving inside to eat regular food. And I
discovered that exactly same feeling arise inside me when I try to
quit smoking.

But that so called 'withdrawal sympton' is related to nicotine
addiction.

What reason you or scientists are going to give for urge, craving to
eat regular food?

If you don't believe me, I challenge you to quit eating your regular
food and eat just vegetables everyday. Don't add anything spicy to it.
Just washed or boiled vegetables.

You will find that 'addiction of nicotine' is just plain wrong. Such
thing does not exist.

Obviously it does not mean that smoking is good for health. I just
want to bust myth of so called 'nicotine addiction'.

I repeat again, try eating just vegetables everyday and nothing else.
It is good for health. What is stopping you?

Get real.
Patches Forever - 25 Feb 2007 10:41 GMT
Eat sh.t.  See what that does for you.  Report back.

Bill S.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking
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> Get real.
Marvin The Paranoid Android - 25 Feb 2007 13:58 GMT
> Eat sh.t.  See what that does for you.  Report back.
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> Bill S.

RFLMAO!

Thanks Bill for the first good laugh of the day.
Ghamph - 26 Feb 2007 19:21 GMT
> Eat sh.t.  See what that does for you.  Report back.
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> > Get real.

Perhaps the term "habit forming" would more accurately fit tobacco or
unhealthy food.  I find it even more difficult to quit a major food group or
caffeine , than tobacco.  So if I really "get real" and quit smoking , I
won't die from anything.
Suffering from terminal living,         Jamffer
(PeteCresswell) - 27 Feb 2007 13:45 GMT
Per Ghamph:
>Perhaps the term "habit forming" would more accurately fit tobacco or
>unhealthy food.  I find it even more difficult to quit a major food group or
>caffeine , than tobacco.

My suspicion is that different people have different potentials for nicotine
addiction.   While for most the addiction is very strong, a few are lucky.

Note my other post citing the Synanon groups opinion that quitting heroin was
easier than quitting nicotine.

Having said that, I smoked about a pack a night during a couple of my college
years.    Dunno if it was the half-gallon of wine coolers that went with it
(state-dependent addiction?) or what... but one day I was riding my motorbike
down to school with this awful taste in my mouth from the nite before and I said
"geeze, I don't want to do this anymore" and that was the end of it.  No
cravings, nothing....   If I were even a little bit addicted I think I'd be
smoking to this day - not having the willpower to even lose the 10-15 pounds
that I really ought to lose....

My late brother, OTOH, was a person of very strong will.   He was unable to quit
smoking even though he knew it was going to be a factor in his premature death.
Ditto my dad - major-league business exec, massive willpower... died coughing
his brains out, unable to quit.
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PeteCresswell

TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2007 15:21 GMT
> Per Ghamph:
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> PeteCresswell

It is becoming a common belief that strength of addiction has to do
with the amount of receptor proteins on cell bodies. The more
receptors you have for that addictive material, the more intense
"withdrawl" symptoms you will have.

Your father and brothers addictions probably had less to do with will
power and more to do with biology.
Ghamph - 27 Feb 2007 21:35 GMT
> Per Ghamph:
> >Perhaps the term "habit forming" would more accurately fit tobacco or
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> Ditto my dad - major-league business exec, massive willpower... died coughing
> his brains out, unable to quit.

Well Pete , you are totally right.  In 1980 when I quit for sixteen years ,
it was comparatively  easy.  The time before last I went for eight months
with ease.  But there have been many other times when I only made it a day ,
or only a few days.
I think that many factors can enter into the quitting process.  Things that
are "triggers" for example.  Things like watching my brother in law smoke
his pipe through the hole in his neck , because the doc. give him three
months to live.
You're fortunate to have the common sense that you.
Jamffer
Ghamph - 27 Feb 2007 00:42 GMT
> Eat sh.t.  See what that does for you.  Report back.
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> > Get real.

For someone who would advocate comparing quitting spices to tobacco , they
would need to be justifying their own tobacco habit.
The word fool is a four letter word , so I'll just say that you're a
delusional deface.
Jamffer

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