> Another reason why we should allow antibiotics over the
> counter. It will kill a lot of staph in the community before it gets
> to hospital.
> One of the Professors of Infectious disease comments'
> Irresponsible prescribing of antibiotics by GPs has eliminated
> rheumatic heart disease in Britain !
You have posted this to a SCI group.
Please provide some kind of evidence or we will
know you just made up a bunch of nonsense.
excerpt google 'spain mrsa rate'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A2836550
Levels of MRSA as a proportion of all bloodstream infections in other
European countries, according to European Antimicrobial Resistance
Surveillance Systems data for 2002, are:
Denmark 1%
Netherlands 1%
Austria 11%
Germany 19%
Spain 23%
France 33%
Portugal 38%
Italy 38%
Greece 44%
UK 44%
Across Europe data is available from the European Antimicrobial
Resistance Surveillance Scheme (EARSS), which reports on the
proportion of invasive isolates of Staphylococcus aureus that are
MRSA. The lowest rates are seen in Northern Europe in the Scandinavian
countries, Spain and France report figures of between 20 and 30% MRSA,
other Mediterranean countries report similar rates to the UK & Ireland
of 30 – 40% and Romania reported that 73% of its Staph. aureus were
MRSA (EARSS report 2004).
..
The Netherlands and Norway have achieved the best results, according
to the European Antimicrobial Resistance Surveillance System (EARSS),
an organisation that monitors the spread of bacteria including MRSA
across 31 countries.
They recorded levels of just 1 or 2 per cent (MRSA as a proportion of
all bloodstream infections), followed closely by Sweden and Denmark
(about 5 per cent).
Then come Austria (about 15 per cent) and Germany (21 per cent),
followed by Spain and France (about 26 per cent) and Italy (about 37
per cent). At 44 per cent, Britain is ranked alongside Greece and just
above Portugal, Malta and Cyprus. Romania has the biggest problem,
posting a level of more than 60 per cent
just Ed - 17 Feb 2007 17:52 GMT
> excerpt google 'spain mrsa rate'
Thank you for your effort but you have essentially
admitted that your original post was not based
on any knowledge or data but on your imagination,
it was untrue.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A2836550
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> an organisation that monitors the spread of bacteria including MRSA
> across 31 countries.
It seems valuable to examine this data.
It shows that Spain is not the country you want to emulate
regarding MRSA, you want to do whatever is done in
Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands.
This data shows that you are quite wrong.
OTC antibiotics is not what lowers MRSA infection rates
since Spain doesn't do nearly as well as some of
the other countries.
The data doesn't show what lowers MRSA infection rates
even if 'best' have OTC antibiotics, it could be due to
something else (correlation does not prove causation).
habshi - 18 Feb 2007 02:34 GMT
What is 'untrue' about the data given in the post? I had read
it somewhere and then put it on the net. Spain does have HALF the mrsa
rate that Britain , thanks to all the bad bugs being killed by quick
use of otc antibiotics .
Thank you for your effort but you have essentially
admitted that your original post was not based
on any knowledge or data but on your imagination,
it was untrue.
just Ed - 19 Feb 2007 00:46 GMT
> What is 'untrue' about the data given in the post?
You misquoted me, I'd guess that it was intentional.
I said your original post was untrue. There was no data in that
post at all, it just had your thoughts which are not supported by
the data.
> I had read
> it somewhere and then put it on the net.
What did you post before I called you on your nonsense?
> Spain does have HALF the mrsa
> rate that Britain , thanks to all the bad bugs being killed by quick
> use of otc antibiotics .
There is no way of knowing why Spain's MRSA is lower than Britain's
but if you're trying to lower MRSA, you should ignore Spain...
apparently your reading comprehension is very poor. Please
read my second post where I anticipated and countered this
nonsense in advance.
harmony - 21 Feb 2007 22:22 GMT
>> What is 'untrue' about the data given in the post?
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> read my second post where I anticipated and countered this
> nonsense in advance.
quit being nuisance. habshi is right.
just Ed - 22 Feb 2007 01:41 GMT
> quit being nuisance. habshi is right.
clueless one:
you have added nothing.
you must be an impressive contibutor to soc.culture.indian
habshi - 22 Feb 2007 12:48 GMT
At least we can agree that otc antibiotics do NOT increase
rate of resistance.
TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 22 Feb 2007 15:29 GMT
> At least we can agree that otc antibiotics do NOT increase
> rate of resistance.
Then what does? Non over the counter antibiotics?
just Ed - 22 Feb 2007 20:28 GMT
> At least we can agree that otc antibiotics do NOT increase
> rate of resistance.
no, we agree that you post trash with no evidence to a sci ng.
harmony - 22 Feb 2007 15:18 GMT
>> quit being nuisance. habshi is right.
>
> clueless one:
> you have added nothing.
>
> you must be an impressive contibutor to soc.culture.indian
pls now cut it out, and stop embarrasing yourself. be good to yourself, take
an antibiotic toady, ok. good luck, jesus loves you.