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adremeaux@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2006 03:32 GMT
I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.

There's a weird thing that runs in my family where, when we drink any
kind of alcohol while eating, the intake of alcohol causes extreme,
sharp pain at the cusp of our jaw, on both sides. Any idea what this
is, or how to deal with it? It's actually kind of weird, because both
my father and (totally unrelated, obviously) mother suffered this, not
just one. I think I have it worse than both of them. I'd love to be
able to drink wine or beer with a meal or something, so it'd be awesome
to find a treatment.

Again, sorry if this is the wrong place for this.

-andy
Jason Johnson - 18 Dec 2006 04:06 GMT
I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.


There's a weird thing that runs in my family where, when we drink any
kind of alcohol while eating, the intake of alcohol causes extreme,
sharp pain at the cusp of our jaw, on both sides. Any idea what this
is, or how to deal with it? It's actually kind of weird, because both
my father and (totally unrelated, obviously) mother suffered this, not
just one. I think I have it worse than both of them. I'd love to be
able to drink wine or beer with a meal or something, so it'd be awesome
to find a treatment.

Again, sorry if this is the wrong place for this.

-andy

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andy,
I am not a doctor but will take a guess. I took a class related to
genetics while I was a college student. We learned in that class that
various disorders
can be passed from one generation to the next generation. For example,
my next door neighbor has a small hump in her back.
She told me that several of her ancestors had the same hump. It's my guess
that the jaw defect is like the hump in my neighbor's back. In other words,
it's a gene related problem. You may want to ask your doctor whether or not
your jaw can be repaired. In order for it to be repaired, the doctor may have
to break your jaw and reset the bones. My nose was broken and that it how the
doctor repaired it. He broke it and placed a plastic cast on it. It caused me
lots of pain while it was healing.
Jason
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adremeaux@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2006 05:04 GMT
>  I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
>  best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.
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> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm sure it *is* genetic, but it doesn't seem like something that would
be helped by breaking... it seems more muscle related to me, or some
weird nerve thing, as the pain is a direct and symmetrical result of
alcohol after/during food intake.

-andy
Jason Johnson - 18 Dec 2006 09:05 GMT
Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1166412750.176190.248020@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> adremeaux@gmail.com wrote:
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> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



I'm sure it *is* genetic, but it doesn't seem like something that would
be helped by breaking... it seems more muscle related to me, or some
weird nerve thing, as the pain is a direct and symmetrical result of
alcohol after/during food intake.


-andy

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andy,
If all of your jaw bones are working correctly, there may be some
treatment programs that may work. I seem to recall watching a television
program about some lady that had a problem with with some nerves or
muscles in her face. The doctor injected some sort of medicine (that I do
not remember the name of) that caused the nerves or muscles to stop
working. The lady had to have new injections about once a month. Perhaps
someone else in this newsgroup knows the name of that medicine. I seem to
recall that plastic surgeons use that medication on a regular basis. You
should ask your doctor about that medication.
Jason
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David Wright - 19 Dec 2006 05:17 GMT
>>  I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
>>  best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.
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>weird nerve thing, as the pain is a direct and symmetrical result of
>alcohol after/during food intake.

Andy, please ignore Jason.  He is not a doctor, and has no medical
training.  He is, however, an idiot who adds nothing to discussions.
I don't know the answer to your problem either, but at least I won't
write a very long paragraph telling you that.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
     "If George Bush were my dad, I'd be drunk in public so often that
      James Baker would have me killed." -- Bill Maher on the Bush twins
adremeaux@gmail.com - 20 Dec 2006 01:22 GMT
> >>  I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
> >>  best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.
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> I don't know the answer to your problem either, but at least I won't
> write a very long paragraph telling you that.

lol, ok, I was going to say that the condition isn't anywhere near bad
enough to decide to suffer through monthly injections into my jaw for
the rest of my life. In fact, it's little more than annoying, seeing as
drinking while eating is hardly a necessity of life.

-andy
TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2006 15:26 GMT
> I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
> best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.
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>
> -andy

Does this only happen when you eat AND drink. Or whenever you drink? Be
as specific as possible.
adremeaux@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2006 03:10 GMT
> > I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, but it's my
> > best guess. Let me know if I'd get better help elsewhere.
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> Does this only happen when you eat AND drink. Or whenever you drink? Be
> as specific as possible.

It's only when I eat and drink, and the eating is more than just a
small snack. It occurs after I've eaten a bit and I take a sip of any
sort of booze. At that point I get a sharp, piercing pain on both
sides, right below the ear. It only lasts a couple seconds.

-andy
TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2006 16:34 GMT
> It's only when I eat and drink, and the eating is more than just a
> small snack. It occurs after I've eaten a bit and I take a sip of any
> sort of booze. At that point I get a sharp, piercing pain on both
> sides, right below the ear. It only lasts a couple seconds.
>
> -andy

It sounds like a problem with the submandibular or parotid salivary
gland.
Here is a diagram showing where they are at.

   http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/21692458/

It sounds like your papillae are allowing alcohol to backflow down your
Whartons duct.Have you taken this to a doctor? If so what did they say?

This link discusses the Submandibular gland...
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submaxillary_gland
adremeaux@gmail.com - 20 Dec 2006 01:24 GMT
> > It's only when I eat and drink, and the eating is more than just a
> > small snack. It occurs after I've eaten a bit and I take a sip of any
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> This link discusses the Submandibular gland...
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submaxillary_gland

Hmm, interesting. I guess asking my doctor would be the best move at
this point as I have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking
about :) I'll ask my doctor and tell him what you said and see if his
eyes glaze over as much as mine. :P

So, if your above diagnosis were correct, would you have a recommended
treatment?

-andy
TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 20 Dec 2006 02:11 GMT
> > > It's only when I eat and drink, and the eating is more than just a
> > > small snack. It occurs after I've eaten a bit and I take a sip of any
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>
> -andy

This may sound kinda stupid, but don't drink alcohol WITH dinner!
Either drink before, or after.  

Hope it helps.
adremeaux@gmail.com - 20 Dec 2006 04:29 GMT
> > > > It's only when I eat and drink, and the eating is more than just a
> > > > small snack. It occurs after I've eaten a bit and I take a sip of any
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>
> Hope it helps.

Well, yeah, that's what I've been doing for 22 years :) Suffice it to
say, the condition has mandated that. I have little choice.

-andy
Shirokuma11@gmail.com - 26 Dec 2006 15:41 GMT
I too suffer from this when i drink wine. A sharp pain just below the
ear that travels along the jaw.
Luckily i was dining with doctors this holiday and was told that it was
most likely related to the
salivary glands. Up until this point i didnt know anyone else had this
condition so i guess i am no
longer the medical oddity i had hoped to be. HAHA. Anyway just remember
that old saying
patient  "doctor it hurts when i do this..."
doctor  "Well, then dont do this..."

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> TheAmazingGu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > adreme...@gmail.com wrote:
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