Ah haaa, that's what I thought!!! "The cost of the dressing packs,"
being a consideration. Isn't this proof poor people are discriminated
against and may not get the best medical care possible?
Jan
P.S. If this is true I am even more perturbed because we just found out
my wife's Humana coverage is a primary Medical plan to replace Medicare
and not supplement it. We also found out she is going to have to pay
20% of the cost of her hospital stay. Medicare would have covered that
much even without Humana, so isn't the Humana a waste of money? The
only way Humana would have paid 100% would have been if we went to
"General Hospital" for poor people. Did the Humana sales person that
was hanging out at Wal-Mart, who convinced us to sign up for Humana,
screw us? After rethinking it wouldn't we have just been better off
with Medicare and a supplement that covers co-pays, instead of using
Humana as a primary?
Oh, not only that, Humana said their billing somewhat was messed up by
the Medicare computers and they didn't let us know until November that
no added premiums had been charged for any of 2006. Now they want
payment for the entire year. Isn't this unfair to people who only have
disability incomes. Do you think it is cause for a class action against
Humana for their negligence in not discovering the problem in a timely
fashion? It seems grossly unfair for them to demand ten months of back
payments to be paid in just six weeks. What do you think?
> > The hospital doctor said my wife's "Wound VAC" dressing should be
> > changed every THREE (3) days.
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> influence. The instructions do mention less frequent dressing changes
> under the guidlines for a flap, page 24. Best bet is to ask him.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN - 03 Dec 2006 10:33 GMT
> Ah haaa, that's what I thought!!! "The cost of the dressing packs,"
> being a consideration. Isn't this proof poor people are discriminated
> against and may not get the best medical care possible?
Are you a troll? You can tell us... we're nurses.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Jan - 05 Dec 2006 19:50 GMT
Calling someone a troll seems like a too convenient way of avoiding
giving an intelligent opinion in all of the newsgroups, not just this
one. I wonder why that is?
I read "The Hobbit." Trolls turn to stone at dawn if caught in the rays
of the rising sun. I take morning walks regularly. I haven't turned to
stone yet. Therefore I am not a troll.
Jan
> > Ah haaa, that's what I thought!!! "The cost of the dressing packs,"
> > being a consideration. Isn't this proof poor people are discriminated
> > against and may not get the best medical care possible?
>
> Are you a troll? You can tell us... we're nurses.
Norminn - 03 Dec 2006 12:00 GMT
> Ah haaa, that's what I thought!!! "The cost of the dressing packs,"
> being a consideration. Isn't this proof poor people are discriminated
> against and may not get the best medical care possible?
>
> Jan
It's always somebody else's fault, isn't it? We all pay for healthcare,
one way or another. If you are employed, it probably has more to do
with whether or how much your wages increase than any other factor.
IMO, the doc would be irresponsible if he did not weigh the cost of
expensive therapies - it is not denying service if done appropriately.
It is about cost-effective methods. "Poor people" - poor enough for
medicaid - might be discriminated against less than those who pay for
insurance and/or out-of-pocket. If the physician believes dressing
changes every three days are appropriate and doing them every two days
is wasteful, it sounds like a responsible decision. Again, I suggest
you speak with the physician about his orders.
Rick Morris - 14 Dec 2006 19:03 GMT
On 12/3/06 3:14 AM, in article
1165137268.533970.187800@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com, "Jan"
<c3derp0nd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah haaa, that's what I thought!!! "The cost of the dressing packs,"
> being a consideration. Isn't this proof poor people are discriminated
> against and may not get the best medical care possible?
Probably, just as they don't get to drive the nicest cars, drink the finest
champagne, and fart through silk. However, if I was paying out of pocket, I
would be the first to try and keep my costs down and I don't know of any
evidence that shows significant benefits to a two day change schedule
(unless you own stock in the company that makes the dressing change kits.
Yes, that is about money too and the manufacturer may gladly recommend more
frequent changes). We change wound vac dressings on a M-W-F schedule at the
hospital where I work, regardless of the person's income or their insurance
status because that's how the docs order it done. I suppose if you had the
money to pay for it, you could have the dressing changed daily, although is
that really the "The best health care possible"?
By the way, as far as I know, insurance companies try to minimize the bills
of all medical care. "The best health care possible" is a subjective thing.
I suppose that if we all had live-in doctors and nurses, we would likely
receive better healthcare than we do now. But then your neighbor with the
better doctor or nurse might have better healthcare than you, right? So even
with a live-in physician, you would not be receiving "The best health care
possible".
I would be more worried about the person who doesn't have the resources to
get the wound vac in the first place. Not receiving adequate healthcare is a
much more important issue than worrying about whether your adequate
healthcare is as good as Bill Gates. The answer to that is obvious, and no
law prevents it from occurring.

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> > The hospital doctor said my wife's "Wound VAC" dressing should be
> > changed every THREE (3) days.
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> influence. The instructions do mention less frequent dressing changes
> under the guidlines for a flap, page 24. Best bet is to ask him.
Besides that: With no etiology of a wound or further data of a patient how
can anyone make sense of a random guideline? Vaccuum closure is known since
the beginning of the last century. Russians were good at it. A physician
that knows nothing about a VAC should ask a nurse that is specialized in the
field. Tip against painful removals: Try Mepitel of Mollnlycke as a
contactlayer to start with.
A.