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epigastric hernia in 2 y/o male

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Pinky - 02 Nov 2006 02:36 GMT
My son, at his 2 year well visit, was diagnosed with a hernia.  Our
pediatrician could see just by looking at him with his shirt off that
his "bump" was a hernia.  We were referred to a pediatric surgeon with
whom we met.  He recommends surgery.  He informed us the surgery would
be approximately 20 minutes in length and the blood loss would be next
to nothing, but he would have to undergo general anesthesia.  This
pediatric surgeon told us that his hernia is defect in the muscle and
it would never close, unlike an umbilical hernia.  However, we spoke
with pediatrician who has been practicing for 40 years and he
recommends waiting.  He states that this particular hernia has a (+/-)
60% chance of closing on its own.  Can anyone direct us to any valid
statistics on the likelyhood of the hernia closing and/or
incarceration?  It seems that the percentages of occurence of
incarceration and closure are anecdotal at best.
Jeff - 02 Nov 2006 02:46 GMT
> My son, at his 2 year well visit, was diagnosed with a hernia.  Our
> pediatrician could see just by looking at him with his shirt off that
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> incarceration?  It seems that the percentages of occurence of
> incarceration and closure are anecdotal at best.

I would recommend a second opinion from a pediatric surgeon.

We can't examine your son. Plus, as you point out, epigastric hearnias are
quite rare.

Jeff
Howard McCollister - 02 Nov 2006 10:04 GMT
> My son, at his 2 year well visit, was diagnosed with a hernia.  Our
> pediatrician could see just by looking at him with his shirt off that
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> incarceration?  It seems that the percentages of occurence of
> incarceration and closure are anecdotal at best.

I agree that epigastric hernias don't close on their own. They can indeed
incarcerate and strangulate, but if they do, they incarcerate preperitoneal
fat, not small bowel. The risk to your child's life is minimal if you do
nothing. However, the risk of him having ongoing pain from it is more
significant, and acute incarceration, should that occur of preperitoneal fat
is VERY painful. OTOH, the risk of this surgery in a child older than 1 year
old is minimal as well.

HMc
Pinky - 02 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT
Thank you for your input.  So in your experience this type of hernia
does not resolve on its own?  He is asymptomatic at this point.  I fear
that at this point we have many opinions and ultimately it is our
decision, but we are committed to being as informed as possible prior
to any action taken.  When he was born the stomach muscles were not
closed but the surgeon told us that this is a separate issue.  And that
his muscles are continuing to grow and will eventually close.  But as a
layperson, I don't see how the two are not related.  Thoughts?

> > My son, at his 2 year well visit, was diagnosed with a hernia.  Our
> > pediatrician could see just by looking at him with his shirt off that
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>
> HMc
TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com - 02 Nov 2006 16:46 GMT
> Thank you for your input.  So in your experience this type of hernia
> does not resolve on its own?  He is asymptomatic at this point.  I fear
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> >
> > HMc

This link talks about operations and alternatives in laymens terms.
http://www.surgerydoor.co.uk/so/detail2.asp?level2=Epigastric%20Hernia%20Repair%
20-%20Child

Howard McCollister - 03 Nov 2006 18:57 GMT
> Thank you for your input.  So in your experience this type of hernia
> does not resolve on its own?  He is asymptomatic at this point.  I fear
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> his muscles are continuing to grow and will eventually close.  But as a
> layperson, I don't see how the two are not related.  Thoughts?

No, it won't close on its own. It sounds to me like you don't have many
opinions, just two -- the surgeon who said it should be fixed, and the
pediatrician who said it shouldn't.

An epigastric hernia is very unlikely to be a life threatening problem, just
potentially painful, and the repair is quite simple with very little risk. I
presume that the stomach muscle issue you're talking about is diastasis
rectus, and that is not related to an epigastric hernia. The hernia is a
defect in the fascia and has nothing to do with the status of the rectus
muscles.

HMc
 
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