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Medical Forum / General / General / October 2006Is it really necessary for patient ?
My father is 70 years old, about a month ago he accept Radical prostatectomy because of prostate cancer. The surgery was successful ,but recently his doctor ask him to take some Viagra, and watch some porn image to prevent the atrophy of sexual organs. But My father didn't have sex life long time ago, Is it really necessary? I really feel embarrassment for this things. > My father is 70 years old, about a month ago he accept Radical > prostatectomy because of prostate cancer. The surgery was successful > ,but recently his doctor ask him to take some Viagra, and watch some > porn image to prevent the atrophy of sexual organs. > But My father didn't have sex life long time ago, Is it really > necessary? I really feel embarrassment for this things. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Is viagra + porn needed : consult general physician for sudden effects on heart etc, and a Hormone doc for opinion is it really necessary. There is no record if a young girls body heat roused King Davids organs. 1.after prostratectomy was he put on estrogen? 2. long time ago now, is atrophy already set in long ago. 3. has dad been watching porn off on for fun or fantasy. 4. some more... 5. will a test dose help, under supervision of this doc who advised. # my say is forget. be happy and glad the surgery was successful and he will live w/o kidney and bladder problems. however long he lives. he is on borrowed time. > My father is 70 years old, about a month ago he accept Radical > prostatectomy because of prostate cancer. The surgery was successful > ,but recently his doctor ask him to take some Viagra, and watch some > porn image to prevent the atrophy of sexual organs. > But My father didn't have sex life long time ago, Is it really > necessary? I really feel embarrassment for this things. Ask the doctor. It may involve something other than "sexual organs", usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. THAT certainly isn't true. The whole "watch porn to prevent sexual atrophy" concept is indeed odd, however, and I personally wouldn't give it much credence. HMc > > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > HMc The only thing that even remotely made sense was to check circulation in the area following prostatectomy. But there HAS to be an easier way. >> > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The only thing that even remotely made sense was to check circulation > in the area following prostatectomy. But there HAS to be an easier way. I think I get where the OP is coming from : Viagra is sometimes used if the cause of post-radical prostatectomy erectile dysfunction is vascular rather than nerve damage. I guess I could see pornography being used in conjunction with Viagra to make that drug work, the goal being to stimulate blood flow to erectile tissue to keep THAT from atrophying and therefore decreasing erectile dysfunction. HMc "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:kurtullman-1FE64C.13183829102006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx... > In article <4544ebab$0$54843$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, > "Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The only thing that even remotely made sense was to check circulation > in the area following prostatectomy. But there HAS to be an easier way. I think I get where the OP is coming from : Viagra is sometimes used if the cause of post-radical prostatectomy erectile dysfunction is vascular rather than nerve damage. I guess I could see pornography being used in conjunction with Viagra to make that drug work, the goal being to stimulate blood flow to erectile tissue to keep THAT from atrophying and therefore decreasing erectile dysfunction. HMc ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HMc, I agree that you are correct. However, I believe the doctor should have told the patient the same things that you stated in your post. Instead, the doctor offended the patient when the doctor told him to watch porn. As you know, some patients are Christians or members of other religions and as a result are offended when anyone tells them that they should watch porn. I doubt that a Christian doctor would ever tell anyone to watch porn. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:kurtullman-1FE64C.13183829102006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx... > > In article <4544ebab$0$54843$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, > > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you've done any reading of the bible, you would learn that there isn't anything that a "christian" god wouldn't do.  SignaturePramesh Rutajit - p2976221tongue@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply. > > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. > > THAT certainly isn't true. Yeah, tell that to nursing home residents! > The whole "watch porn to prevent sexual atrophy" concept is indeed odd, > however, and I personally wouldn't give it much credence. > > HMc >> > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. >> >> THAT certainly isn't true. > > Yeah, tell that to nursing home residents! Perhaps you are thinking of a different word. HMc > >> > usually with atrophy, a person gets pain. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > HMc No... Trying to move an appendage with an atrophied muscle is usually pretty painful. Most people in rehabilitation will tell you that. >> Perhaps you are thinking of a different word. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Trying to move an appendage with an atrophied muscle is usually pretty > painful. Most people in rehabilitation will tell you that. So, we are then to infer that "atrophy of the sexual organs" is likewise painful? I think you've made a rather awkward cognitive leap, here. > >> Perhaps you are thinking of a different word. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, we are then to infer that "atrophy of the sexual organs" is likewise > painful? I think you've made a rather awkward cognitive leap, here. Most men can get erections well into thier 90's. If this persons father doesn't maintain some muscle tone in the muscles in his perineal area, when he does get an erection, it will probably be painful. I would say thats a rather graceful cognitive leap. > Most men can get erections well into thier 90's. If this persons father > doesn't maintain some muscle tone in the muscles in his perineal area, > when he does get an erection, it will probably be painful. That makes even less sense than what you wrote before. HMc > > Most men can get erections well into thier 90's. If this persons father > > doesn't maintain some muscle tone in the muscles in his perineal area, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > HMc Im sorry you don't understand, maybe you should research it. I can't explain it any simpler than what has been said. The doctor most likely wants this persons father to take ED drugs to prevent atrophy, using atrophied muscles can cause pain. That is as simple as it gets..... >> > Most men can get erections well into thier 90's. If this persons father >> > doesn't maintain some muscle tone in the muscles in his perineal area, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > prevent atrophy, using atrophied muscles can cause pain. That is as > simple as it gets..... Sorry, that's not what you said. You said "usually with atrophy, a person gets pain". That in itself is not true, but in YOUR statement, the clear implication was that the OP's father likely DIDN'T have "atrophy of the sexual organs" because he wasn't having pain. The only correct thing you said was when you advised the OP that she should "ask a doctor". HMc
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