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Zippy - 18 Oct 2006 09:32 GMT
About 6 months ago, I started with a pain in my throat when breathing
in.  The next day, I felt pain in my upper back too when breathing in.
When I bent or lay down, I felt a terrible pressure in my throat that
took a few minutes to subside. It got to a point that if I made any
movement other than stand up straight, I felt this pressure and pain.  I
think the pressure was where my thyroid gland and tonsils are.

The doctor checked me over and couldn't find anything wrong.  He said it
was a virus and nothing to worry about.  After a day or two, the pain
went.

About two weeks ago, I had the same thing, slightly milder.  Doctor said
the same thing.

Since then, I'm not quite got back to normal - tired, aches in arms and
legs as if I had been doing too much exercise the day before, which I
hadn't.  That may or may not be connected to the throat pain.

Background:  I'm 28, healthy with no known medical conditions.
I don't know if this is relevant, but my throid hormones have been a
little low recently, but is now back within the normal range.  Recent
test results:  T4:  10.9, TSH:  4.19.

Has anyone had anything similar?  Any idea what it could be?
thanks
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Robert1 - 18 Oct 2006 22:15 GMT
> About 6 months ago, I started with a pain in my throat when breathing
> in.  The next day, I felt pain in my upper back too when breathing in.
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> thanks
> --

Viral thyroiditis

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000375.htm
> Zippy S
Zippy - 19 Oct 2006 08:59 GMT
>Viral thyroiditis
>
>http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000375.htm
>> Zippy S

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I had a look at the link you posted.  It doesn't sound like I had viral
thyroiditis - I didn't have most of the symptoms listed there: no
previous upper respiratory infection, no tenderness or pain when
pressure was applied.

All I had was a sharp pain in the throat/upper back when I breathed in
and a heavy pressure when bending or lying down.

Any other ideas?
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Robert1 - 19 Oct 2006 18:51 GMT
> About 6 months ago, I started with a pain in my throat when breathing
> in.  The next day, I felt pain in my upper back too when breathing in.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> --
> Zippy S

You are leaving out important info. A healthy person with no medical
conditions does not have "thyroid hormones little low recently but now
normal".
If it has nothing to do with the thyroid then why do thyroid testing?
No values were given about your previous thyroid or other testing such
as sedrate, CBC.
A TSH of 4.19 is within the "normal range" but it is not normal. There
are clinical cut-offs that some endocrinologists use with a 3.0 or
greater indicating primary thyroid failure. Such a value is considered
a compensated subclinical hypothyroidism or conditions such as
congenital or acquired peripheral resistance to thryoid hormones. The
preferred testing is free thyroxine levels and not total T4 levels as
there are other variables that may impact total T4 values other than
thyroid illness.

Just a guess here but I am thinking your doctor is waiting for your TSH
to get over 5 or out of the normal range in order to treat you for
hypothyroidism. The most common cause of hypothryoidism is Hashimoto's,
an autoimmune disease involving the destruction of the thryorid gland.
If it is viral in origin then the gland may return to normal with time
and that is the hope at least.
Zippy - 23 Oct 2006 09:46 GMT
>You are leaving out important info. A healthy person with no medical
>conditions does not have "thyroid hormones little low recently but now
>normal".

>If it has nothing to do with the thyroid then why do thyroid testing?
>No values were given about your previous thyroid or other testing such
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>is considered a compensated subclinical hypothyroidism or conditions
>such as congenital or acquired peripheral resistance to thryoid hormones.

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I didn't think the thyroid details were relevant, which is why I didn't
mention them.  Here goes:

About 4 years ago, after the birth of my first child, a blood test
showed that I had high TSH and low Free T4 levels.  (Sorry, can't
remember the amounts).  Doctor said it is common after birth and it may
right itself, which it did.

After the birth of my second child, about 2 years ago, I had the same
problem.  This time, my T4 levels didn't return quite to normal.  A year
later, they were at Free T4: 10; TSH 6.

My most recently results were Free T4 10.9 and TSH 4.19.  My GP told me
that these values were fine - no need to treat them, even in pregnancy.

A while ago, I was reading on the net that there is a difference of
opinion as to what thyroid levels are considered low and need treating,
as you pointed out.  I'm not sure whether to rely on my doctor's
decision not to treat me, or whether to see another
doctor/endocrinologist.

I don't think I have any symptoms of hypothyroidism. Does that make a
difference?

Thanks.
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