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Re: Gunpoint medicine: Why conventional medicine must use intimidation to control patients (opinion)

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Jan Drew - 05 Jul 2006 22:28 GMT
"Coleah" <coleah@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:12anb49quo1cu5d@corp.supernews.com...

According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with deformed
kidneys. One is smaller than the other, has a cyst on it and is not working.
Kidneys filter toxic byproducts of the body's metabolism out of the blood.
The building-up of toxins in the blood is a sign of renal failure.
Infants like baby Riley, born with what doctors call "kidney dysplasia,"
usually need transplants if both kidneys are affected. If only one is not
working, the remaining kidney can take over and the child can be all right.
However, if toxins start to build and are not eliminated by the kidney, the
patient can die.
==
Rich won't notice....Coleah plagiarizing.  He won't call you a liar and a
thief.

He will make up some idiot story...to protect.
Rich - 05 Jul 2006 23:29 GMT
> According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with deformed
> kidneys. One is smaller than the other, has a cyst on it and is not
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> He will make up some idiot story...to protect.

No, I won't. Coleah, please attribute your sources. Jan is the liar and
thief in this group, and we don't need to be giving her ammunition for the
"everybody does it" defense.

Thank you,

Rich
Jan Drew - 06 Jul 2006 00:22 GMT
>> According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with deformed
>> kidneys. One is smaller than the other, has a cyst on it and is not
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> No, I won't. Coleah, please attribute your sources.

0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Too late.

Pure and simply she plagiarized.

She must be a liar and thief....according to Rich.

Oh, I forgot..Rich didn't call her a bigot.

.

> Rich
Rich - 06 Jul 2006 00:43 GMT
>>> According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with
>>> deformed
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> She must be a liar and thief....according to Rich.

If she makes a habit of it, like you do, then, yes, she's a liar and a
thief. If she refuses to admit that it is wrong, like you do, then, yes,
she's a liar and a thief. If she lies and says she had permission of the
author to post it without attribution like you did, then, yes, she is a liar
and a thief. But I really don't expect her to do any of those things
because, unlike you, she is not a liar and a thief.
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Jan Drew - 06 Jul 2006 04:23 GMT
"Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message:

[And skipped right over this]

Oh, I forgot..Rich didn't call her a bigot.

>>>> According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with
>>>> deformed
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> liar and a thief. But I really don't expect her to do any of those things
> because, unlike you, she is not a liar and a thief.
Coleah - 06 Jul 2006 02:41 GMT
> > According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with deformed
> > kidneys. One is smaller than the other, has a cyst on it and is not
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Rich

Thanks for asking.
Historically, if I'm posting an entire article 'verbatim', I will include
the URL to that article.  Sometimes I just post the URL and no text.

For this issue I visited many websites, first to get a feel for what was
going on, and then to research technical aspects.  Having worked for 9 yrs
in a hospital I have a good knowledge of the human body, but always enjoy
learning more of the technical specifics.  Thus my post in this thread was a
combination of my experience, my words and excerpts.  Here is the browser
history of pages where excerpts can be found:

http://www.komotv.com/news/story.asp?ID=44081
http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_063006WABtinacarlsenLJ.fe61c74.htm
l
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui
ds=15599563&dopt=Abstract
http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_062906WABcarlsenreleasedLJ.af878a2
.html
http://cnserver0.nkf.med.ualberta.ca/nephkids/congdiseases.htm
http://medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/RENAHTML/RENAL041.html
http://medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/RENAHTML/RENAL044.html
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1046/j.0960-7692.2001.00497.x

My best,
Coleah
Jan Drew - 06 Jul 2006 05:01 GMT
>> According to news articles, this 9-mo old baby boy was born with deformed
>> kidneys. One is smaller than the other, has a cyst on it and is not
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Rich

This will tell the story.

Note Rich did NOT ask me to *please attribute my sources*.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8e372f196cd619e4?hl=en&

May 4 2005

She then cut and pasted that text as her own, committing the LIE of
plagiarism.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/650f272b69792eef?hl=en&

> I don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or
> the pope.

I DON'T really care, but there's some delight in catching the lie-police in
her own real lie.
 
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