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richardfangnail@excite.com - 14 Jun 2006 06:21 GMT
Is it true dried noodle soups are really high in sodium?

I've heard that it is, but it doesn't seem as salty as pizza or most
meats.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 14 Jun 2006 15:00 GMT
> Is it true dried noodle soups are really high in sodium?
>
> I've heard that it is, but it doesn't seem as salty as pizza or most
> meats.

    Yes, most of them are really high in sodium--upwards of a gram or more
per serving.
    A few of the health food stores sell lower sodium cups.  Just check the
label--it's right there!

Steve

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richardfangnail@excite.com - 14 Jun 2006 19:30 GMT
Are those things salty because of how they dry it?  Or are pasta things
just salty?

> > Is it true dried noodle soups are really high in sodium?
> >
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> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
marcia - 14 Jun 2006 19:45 GMT
> Are those things salty because of how they dry it?  Or are pasta things
> just salty?
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> > Brooklyn, NY
> > 718-258-5001

I think most of the salt is in the seasoning packet. It's like those
nasty little bouillon cubes you can buy in a jar... try licking one
sometime... very, very salty.

It's a little less convenient, but you could boil dry noodles in a
low-sodium chicken stock and have a similar meal. Steve's idea sounds
like a better option, tho.
Jason Johnson - 14 Jun 2006 20:05 GMT
richardfangnail@excite.com wrote:
> Are those things salty because of how they dry it?  Or are pasta things
> just salty?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> > Brooklyn, NY
> > 718-258-5001


I think most of the salt is in the seasoning packet. It's like those
nasty little bouillon cubes you can buy in a jar... try licking one
sometime... very, very salty.

It's a little less convenient, but you could boil dry noodles in a
low-sodium chicken stock and have a similar meal. Steve's idea sounds
like a better option, tho.

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Marcia,
I agree that salt is a seasoning which is one of the reasons they use it.
Salt does make foods such as soup taste better. It's also a preservative.
It makes food last much longer. I was raised on a farm. My father would
put lots of salt on hams (as a preservative). We kept the hams in a shed
hanging from the roof until we needed them. The salt kept the hams from
rotting and also made the hams taste better. I now eat soup that has NO
salt and it does not taste very good.

It's getting boring again. Pull some chains to make it more exciting.
Jason
marcia - 14 Jun 2006 20:12 GMT
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> It's getting boring again. Pull some chains to make it more exciting.
> Jason

LOL. I can only do that on rare occasions, or risk antagonizing people,
which is not (usually) my goal. Yesterday was a little *too* exciting.
Today I had my car towed to the dealership and ended up with a $225
bill for a dead battery (yikes!). I hope the rest of the day is really,
really boring. ;)
Jason Johnson - 14 Jun 2006 21:12 GMT
Jason Johnson wrote:
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> It's getting boring again. Pull some chains to make it more exciting.
> Jason

LOL. I can only do that on rare occasions, or risk antagonizing people,
which is not (usually) my goal. Yesterday was a little *too* exciting.
Today I had my car towed to the dealership and ended up with a $225
bill for a dead battery (yikes!). I hope the rest of the day is really,
really boring. ;)

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Marcia,
Sorry about the car problems. Yes, it was too exciting. I will continue to
provide advice but will try to avoid any posts related to subjects that I
know nothing about. In the past, I would look up the subject in my 1000
page medical book and read about that subject and post any of the
information related to that disease. Even if I copied it directly from the
book and provided the name of the author and title of the book--that still
did not satify the net cops. I learned a lot but am now tired of dealing
with the net cops so will stop that practice. I wonder if netcops realize
that doctors learned most of what they know from books written by doctors.
I still don't understand why net cops get upset when I post information
from books written by doctors. I wonder if I yanked any chains. Only time
will tell. Have a boring day--LOL.
Jason
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Bob - 15 Jun 2006 05:29 GMT
>I agree that salt is a seasoning which is one of the reasons they use it.
>Salt does make foods such as soup taste better.

That is really a matter of taste (pun intended). We seem to be brought
up to add salt to things, and we get used to the taste. People often
add salt before tasting to see if they need more salt. Many people
find they can cut back, gradually perhaps, and get by with much less
salt.

It would be better to say that people often like the taste of salted
foods, rather than to say it is "better" -- implying something
objective.

>It's also a preservative.

True, as you elaborate below, but that has nothing to do with why it
is in the dried noodles (or most other modern prepared foods). Salt
acts as a preservative by lowering the effective water content; common
microbes, especially common pathogens, won't tolerate much salt. And
indeed salting was a good way to preserve things prior to modern
technologies. (I bet that is how we acquired a taste for the stuff.)
Modern packaged foods are packaged free of microbes; anyway, they
aren't going to grow on dried noodles. The high salt in them is a
legacy, not a current need.

bob

>It makes food last much longer. I was raised on a farm. My father would
>put lots of salt on hams (as a preservative). We kept the hams in a shed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>It's getting boring again. Pull some chains to make it more exciting.
>Jason
Bob - 15 Jun 2006 05:29 GMT
>Is it true dried noodle soups are really high in sodium?

Indeed.

Should be on the label.

(High salt is common in prepared foods.)

>I've heard that it is, but it doesn't seem as salty as pizza or most
>meats.

Your perception of saltiness is not tightly coupled to salt content;
taste is complex.

bob
 
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