http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006
Excerpts:
What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.
"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
organized crime.
"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy, vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.
Full article at link
Mark Probert - 01 May 2006 22:59 GMT
> http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
>
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> medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
> patient education, and other natural therapies.
Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.
> "Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
> conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
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> diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
> organized crime.
I ran that paragraph though my bullshitometer and this is what happened
to Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:
http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r
> "Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
> the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
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> well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
> patient.
Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.
> Full article at link
f.ck Google - 01 May 2006 23:10 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
> > http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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> > Full article at link
f.ck Jan Drew's Imagination - 02 May 2006 15:33 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Stuart hydernan hyderman stuart
> From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
> > > http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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Jan Drew - 02 May 2006 00:54 GMT
>> http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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> I ran that paragraph though my bullshitometer and this is what happened to
> Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:
I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'
>> "Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
>> the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
> the neck up.
I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'
>> Full article at link
Mark Probert - 02 May 2006 13:58 GMT
>>> http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
>>>
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>>> to medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body
>>> medicine, patient education, and other natural therapies.
>> Anecdotes are Bullshit. Mark Probert
That is not what I said in my comments regarding this opinion piece. You
snipped them without mentioning them. Here is what I said:
Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.
Anecdotes are bullshit when someone is trying to prove a scientific
point. However, when the discussion is of social issues, as is the case
here, anecdotes are completely valid.
>>> "Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
>>> promote conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies,
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>> I ran that paragraph though my bullshitometer and this is what happened to
>> Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:
>> http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r
(snipped URL restored)
> I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
> 'live and let live.'
This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".
>>> "Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
>>> the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
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> I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
> 'live and let live.'
This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".
>>> Full article at link
f.ck Google - 02 May 2006 15:01 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
> >>> http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
> >>>
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>
> >>> Full article at link
f.ck Jan Drew's Imagination - 02 May 2006 15:33 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Stuart hydernan hyderman stuart
> > http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
> >
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> > Full article at link
Peter Bowditch - 01 May 2006 23:24 GMT
>http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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>medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
>patient education, and other natural therapies.
Wow! My doctors must have been away the day they didn't learn about
nutrition and patient education.
I must read on. Will more bullshit follow?
>"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
>conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
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>diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
>organized crime.
Why, yes it does.
>"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
>the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
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>well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
>patient.
And there is more! Who would have thought that "Advanced medicine"
would almost exclusively consist of ancient crap that has been proved
ineffective many times over not just years but decades and even
centuries? Who would think that the "future of medicine" is identical
to "the history of medicine"?
I don't see "taking the waters" and "adjusting the humours" in the
list. Oversights, I'm sure.

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Jan Drew - 02 May 2006 00:57 GMT
"Peter Bowditch"
>>http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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>
> I must read on. Will more bullshit follow?
I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'
>>"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
>>promote
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>>well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
>>patient.
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f.ck Google - 02 May 2006 00:59 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
> "Peter Bowditch"
> >
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> > --
> > Peter Bo
f.ck Google - 02 May 2006 15:24 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Stuart hydernan hyderman stuart
> From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
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> > > Peter Bo
Mark Probert - 02 May 2006 13:59 GMT
> "Peter Bowditch"
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> I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
> 'live and let live.'
Peter never agreed to that, and furthermore, this post is clearly within
the parameters of "live and let live" as I am discussing issues, not the
person who posted them. Further, discussing the person who wrote the
article is also within the parameters of "live and let live".
>>> "Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
>>> promote
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> <snip>
f.ck Google - 02 May 2006 15:01 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
> > "Peter Bowditch"
> >>
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> >> --
> >> Peter Bo
f.ck Google - 02 May 2006 15:18 GMT
From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Stuart hydernan hyderman stuart
> http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html
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> Full article at link