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Find the gene that makes tortoises live so long

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habshi - 24 Mar 2006 02:19 GMT
    Why does a sloth die soon while a tortoise live so long?
Does the latter have more hdl ? Find the gene that is different in
them and you may have a clue to immortality.

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Clive of India's tortoise dies aged 250
ARUNDHATI RAY
IN CALCUTTA
HE WAS reputedly owned by the imperial hero Clive of India, lived
through the industrial revolution, the Napoleonic wars and the space
age, but yesterday Adwaitya, the world's oldest tortoise, finally
tired of life after more than 250 years.

The giant aldabra tortoise died in Calcutta Zoo of liver failure,
taking all the secrets of an existence spanning three centuries with
him.

"Historical records show he was a pet of British general Robert Clive
of the East India Company and had spent several years in his sprawling
estate before he was brought to the zoo about 130 years ago," said
Jogesh Barman, the West Bengal forest minister.

"We have documents to prove that he was more than 150 years old, but
we have pieced together other evidence, like statements from authentic
sources and it seems he is more than 250 years old."

Details about the tortoise's early life showed that British sailors
had brought him from the Seychelles and presented him to Clive, who
was rising fast in the East India Company's military hierarchy, the
minister said.

If Adwaitya's age is proved by planned carbon-dating of his shell, he
will take the longest-lived crown from another tortoise with
connections to empire.

Tui Malila, who was presented to the Tongan royal family by Captain
Cook, in either 1773 or 1777, remained in their care until its death
from natural causes in 1965. This means Tui Malila was at least either
188 or 192 years old.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=457742006
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Some flies last only a couple of days, while a termite queen can
survive for 30 years.
visualseeplus@yahoo.com - 24 Mar 2006 04:27 GMT
A sloth lives 30 to 40 yrs which is reasonably long compared to other
mammals like monkeys.

I think it has to do with metabolism.  The slower the metabolism, the
longer the creature lives.  Look at dogs, their heartbeat is so fast
and so is their breathing rate.  The result is they age 7x faster than
humans.  Any animal with a naturally high metabolism (excluding humans)
will die an early death.

Thus the brighter the candle burns, the quicker the flame is
extinguished.

> Why does a sloth die soon while a tortoise live so long?
> Does the latter have more hdl ? Find the gene that is different in
> them and you may have a clue to immortality.
Andrei Vlasov - 24 Mar 2006 04:48 GMT
> A sloth lives 30 to 40 yrs which is reasonably long compared to other
> mammals like monkeys.
>
> I think it has to do with metabolism.  The slower the metabolism, the
> longer the creature lives.

I don't believe it is just metabolism.

Tortoise practically do not experience any aging.

Death is from disease and injury only.

If humans did the same, they would live between 1,000 and 10,000 years.
ohush@unc.edu - 24 Mar 2006 06:58 GMT
> A sloth lives 30 to 40 yrs which is reasonably long compared to other
> mammals like monkeys.
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> Thus the brighter the candle burns, the quicker the flame is
> extinguished.

Oh, bullshit.  Parrots have normal heart rates well over 200 and they
live about as long as humans (normal human HR is 60 to 100).  Besides
that, little dogs' hearts beat faster than big dogs' hearts, and little
dogs live about twice as long as big dogs on average.
Bill - 24 Mar 2006 13:03 GMT
> Why does a sloth die soon while a tortoise live so long?
> Does the latter have more hdl ? Find the gene that is different in
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> Some flies last only a couple of days, while a termite queen can
> survive for 30 years.

http://www.slate.com/id/2138560/

Why Do Giant Tortoises Live So Long?
They're big, they've got armor, and they live on an island.
By Daniel Engber
Posted Thursday, March 23, 2006, at 6:36 PM ET

A 255-year-old giant tortoise named Adwaitya died at the Calcutta Zoo on
Wednesday. The animal had been brought to India from the Seychelles Islands in
the mid-18th century as a gift to the British colonial ruler Robert Clive. Why
do giant tortoises live for such a long time?

So they can reproduce more effectively. Long life spans provide an
evolutionary advantage for certain types of animals. It makes sense to stick
around if you live in an unpredictable or harsh environment where it's hard to
reproduce on a regular basis. (Desert animals, for example, tend to get quite
old before they die.) You'd also want to have a long life if you could only
give birth infrequently for some other reason, or if you spent a lot of time
caring for each of your offspring.

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