 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Medical Forum / General / General / March 2006AVIAN FLU:
AVIAN FLU: THE PANDEMIC THAT WILL NEVER BE - Tim O'Shea http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/avian.php > AVIAN FLU: > THE PANDEMIC THAT WILL NEVER BE > > - Tim O'Shea > > http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/avian.php Bullshit! The flu pandemic WILL be. It's possible that the H5N1 variant will not mutate into a human transmissable form, but flu pandemics have happened in the past, and will happen in the future, and constant vigilance is warranted. That includes careful monitoring of the H5N1 avian flu and preparation for the possible pandemic in every way possible. It is a fact that when contracted by humans this virus has a very high mortality rate. And it is a fact that the virus is pandemic in the world's wild bird population, and the more birds infected and the more widespread the disease, the more likely it is to become human-to-human transmissible through reassortment or by direct mutation. The threat is real.  Signature--Rich Recommended websites: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/ In article <PIjTf.6270$w86.817@tornado.socal.rr.com>, > Bullshit! The flu pandemic WILL be. It's possible that the H5N1 variant will > not mutate into a human transmissable form, but flu pandemics have happened [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the more likely it is to become human-to-human transmissible through > reassortment or by direct mutation. The threat is real. This has always been one of the big problems with disaster management and epidemology. The BIG one inevitable, but no one can tell ahead of time which will be the BIG one, so they have to alert people when Possible BIG ones come along. If PBOs then become small b big ones or even not so big ones (or the hurricane goes 20 miles to the west) Then when the REAL BIG One hit nobody believes them. Same thing here. You gotta remember that before the Flu pandemic of 1917, there was still a flu season the year before. > You gotta remember that before the Flu pandemic of 1917, there was > still a flu season the year before. that was man made http://www.vaccination.org.uk/v/spanish_flu.html sure is useful for fearmongering >> You gotta remember that before the Flu pandemic of 1917, there was >> still a flu season the year before. > >that was man made http://www.vaccination.org.uk/v/spanish_flu.html > >sure is useful for fearmongering If anyone knows fearmongering, it's John-boy Scudamore. But do check out that URL. It's hilariously bad. It also fails to explain the massive numbers of "Spanish flu" deaths in countries like India, where almost nobody was vaccinated but millions died. Really, you just have to read it. It's so insane that I can't do it justice, but let me try to tempt you with a short excerpt: Many vaccines also cause other diseases besides the one for which they are given. For instance, smallpox vaccine often causes syphilis, paralysis, leprosy, and cancer. The chronology is also hilariously wrong and suggests that the flu started after WW I, whereas it actually started well before the end of the war. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth > Bullshit! The flu pandemic WILL be. It's possible that the H5N1 variant > will not mutate into a human transmissable form, but flu pandemics have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > disease, the more likely it is to become human-to-human transmissible > through reassortment or by direct mutation. The threat is real. so speaks a pharma fearmonger read the article how does "The flu pandemic WILL be" equate with "It's possible that the H5N1 variant will not mutate" if you are going to bullshit try not to contradict yourself in the same sentence >> Bullshit! The flu pandemic WILL be. It's possible that the H5N1 variant >> will not mutate into a human transmissable form, but flu pandemics have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > if you are going to bullshit try not to contradict yourself in the same > sentence That's not a contradiction. There is nothing to prevent an entirely novel strain of flu becoming pandemic. H5N1 is not the only flu virus out there. There will be a flu pandemic again. It will probably be H5N1, but regardless, it's like earthquakes and hurricanes, the next one is unpredictable, but inevitable. Signature--Rich Recommended websites: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/ > That's not a contradiction. There is nothing to prevent an entirely novel > strain of flu becoming pandemic. H5N1 is not the only flu virus out there. > There will be a flu pandemic again. It will probably be H5N1, but > regardless, it's like earthquakes and hurricanes, the next one is > unpredictable, but inevitable. Yes, you can rely on these man made diseases, like aids, sars, bird flu, spanish flu, gulf war syndrome >> That's not a contradiction. There is nothing to prevent an entirely novel >> strain of flu becoming pandemic. H5N1 is not the only flu virus out there. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Yes, you can rely on these man made diseases, like aids, sars, bird flu, >spanish flu, gulf war syndrome Only GWS is possibly of human origin, though we don't know. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth Per john: >"It's possible that the H5N1 >variant will not mutate" I have a book sitting on the table in front of me. I would not be outright lying if I said "It is possible that the Brownian motions of all the molecules in the book will briefly coincide and the book will jump an inch off the table." But the real question is "What are the odds of that happening?". (or, in the case of H5N1, "What are the odds of that *not* happening?". Also, H5N1 does not have to mutate to become efficiently human-to-human transmissible. It could also undergo a rearrangement event in the body of somebody who has both human flu and H5N1, picking up the genetic material that gives human flu it's human-to-human transmissibility. In that case, the optimistic could hope that the new virus would have lost some of H5N1's lethality.... but it would still be only a hope. As somebody's grandmother used to say "Crap into this hand and hope into that hand - then tell me which hand fills up first." SignaturePeteCresswell |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2008 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.