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JK - 16 Jan 2006 16:42 GMT
I do not get tired of doing work,
I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
fruits from decades,
I also get regular blood test for cholestrol, trigricides and sugar .
and have always got positive results
second week of January 2004 i had chest pain and i visited my family
doctor immediately he advised me for angiography and on 13th jan 2005
it was diagnosed that i had blockage which was of great concerned.

since then i am on control diet no fats, no dairy products, no oils,
lots of fruits salads and vegetables,  oats.....

I have now few questions to ask any help will be highly appreciated

1) Can heart blockage removed without getting operated
2) how can i view angography CD and interpret it
3) are their any test to verify heart blockage other than angiography
4) If my cholestrol was always in control than how come their is
blockage ?

BLOOD TEST REPORT AS ON 30-NOV-2004
BLOOD SUGAR-------99.2 MG/DL
BLOOD UREA--------41.2 MG/DL
S.CREATININE------1.2 MG/DL
S.URIC ACID-------5.1 MG/DL
S. CHOLESTEROL----188.2 MG/DL
S. TRIGLYCERIDES--130.3 MG/DL
Prescribed Medicines (Ceruvin 75 mg and Razel 10 mg)

Result After Medication
BLOOD TEST REPORT AS ON 17-AUG-2005
GLUCOSE (FASTING)------93 MG/DL
GLUCOSE PP-------------103 MG/DL
UREA-------------------23 MG/DL
SERUM CREATININE-------1.0 MG/DL
URIC ACID--------------4.8 MG/DL
CHOLESTEROL------------104 MG/DL
HDL CHOLESTEROL--------35 MG/DL
LDL CHOLESTEROL--------61 MG/DL
TRIGLYCERIDE-----------87 MG/DL
VLDL CHOLESTEROL-------17 MG/DL

HEART REPORT Dated 13/01/05
INDICATION:    Post MI Evaluation
Previous Procedure------None
Procedure Details
Route:------SF
Sheath Size
Catheter------RCA JR
    ------LCA JL
Contrast------Ionic
Complications------Nil
Hemodynamic Status
Aortic Pressure(S/D/M)------130/80/mmHg
LVEDP Pre------------16 mmHg
             Post    18 mmHg
             EF    45 %

LV angiography
> done in RAO view and shows RWMA
> Apical, Inferior segment Hypokinetic.
> Other segment normal.

Coronary Angiography
LAD    ------------90% mid segment stenosis
LCx    ------------90% mid segment stenosis
RCA    ------------75% proximal segment stenosis
    ------------40% proximal segment stenosis
Summary    >Triple Vessel Disease
    LAD mid segment stenosis , LCx mid segment stenosis,
    RCA proximal segment stenosis, proximal segment stenosis,
    >Mild LV Dysfunction

Thankyou for you answers
Jattinder

jattinder.kumar@rediffmail.com |
mcs - 16 Jan 2006 18:14 GMT
>I do not get tired of doing work,
> I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
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>
> jattinder.kumar@rediffmail.com |

Wow thats a great read jattinder and so sorry about your Heart blockage.I
think any answers will help people in the future like me understand what
might help for them also . What did you eat allot of that may have caused
this ? Dairy?
Your cholesterol was pretty low! Good luck and hope you get some good
answers.
oldal4865 - 16 Jan 2006 19:25 GMT
JK wrote in message
<1137429720.962518.234330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
>I do not get tired of doing work,
>I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Thankyou for you answers
>Jattinder

I cannot answer your questions (engineer,  not a medical person)  but I can
mention some things you should think about:

1.  Your Fasting Blood sugar is a bit high.  It may be predicting future
diabetes.

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3165

2.  If your suspiciously high Fasting Blood sugar  is caused by high Insulin
Resistance,   your past cholesterol history may not have been as "positive'
as you thought.    A triglycerides to HDL ratio greater than 3.0 is
considered a marker for high Insulin Resistance and small-sized LDL
particles.   Small-sized LDL is implicated in arterial disease.

You are taking a statin  (Razel) and  controlling your diet ,  ( ". . .
.control diet no fats, no dairy products, no oils,. . ."),   but your ratio
is 2.48.    Mine is 1.3

People with high triglycerides/HDL ratios often reduce their ratios by
reducing the amount of carbohydrate in their diet.

Metformin has been found useful in people with  unfavorable triglycerides
and HDL ratios related to high Insulin Resistance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?holding=npg&cmd=Retrieve&db=Pu
bMed&list_uids=1752350&dopt=Abstract

3.  Razel is suspected of producing excessive adverse side effects in Asian
ethnic groups.    If you are such,  (India?) you may want to seek a
substitute statin,  i.e.

http://www.doctorndtv.com/FAQ/detailfaq.asp?id=4991

". . . .Assuming that you do need medicine, one should certainly avoid
rosuvastatin (sold under various brand names such as Razel) since it has
caused severe adverse effects including rhabdomyolysis (a potentially fatal
disorder of muscles). This medicine is known to have more serious side
effects in Asian ethnic groups (such as Indians) compared to Caucasians
(such as English, Anglo-Saxons). Because of this reason the US Government
agency dealing with medicines has ordered the manufacturers to conduct
further trials on this drug in Asian communities.

Older statins such as atorvastatin (sold under various brand names like
Atorva, Liporest) or lovastatin (sold under the brand name of Pro-HDL) are
safer and as effective in reducing cholesterol levels. . ."

Regards
 Old Al
David Rind - 16 Jan 2006 19:40 GMT
> I do not get tired of doing work,
> I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> 4) If my cholestrol was always in control than how come their is
> blockage ?

1) There are really no proven ways to "remove" blockages of coronary
arteries. Surgery bypasses the blockages, and stenting opens up the
blockages, but in neither case is the blockage removed. Maintaining a
very low cholesterol level may, in some people, result in the body
slowly decreasing blockages over years.

2) You might be able to get someone to give you a copy of the
angiography. I'm not sure what you mean by interpret it -- presumably
you would need someone with expertise in looking at an angiography to
interpret it.

3) Angiography is considered the gold standard test for coronary
blockages. Other tests could be done looking for problems, but the
angiography is usually the confirmatory test. In the posted report it
did not just show multiple blockages. It also showed evidence of a prior
heart attack. Unless the people reading the angiography are incompetent,
it doesn't make sense to think about getting some other test. The
blockages are almost certainly there.

4) Unfortunately, high cholesterol is just one risk factor for coronary
heart disease. A lot of people with normal cholesterol levels develop
coronary disease as well.

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David Rind
drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

Sharon - 16 Jan 2006 21:18 GMT
Just out of curiousity, because I have no knowledge to offer you,
JK........but....Is it true that stress and anxiety cause a body to
release cholesterol into the bloodstream? I ask this because my
cholesterol level is far higher than it should be, given that I've been
a vegetarian for over 30 years.
Take care, and good luck, JK,
Sharon
Robert - 17 Jan 2006 07:43 GMT
> Just out of curiousity, because I have no knowledge to offer you,
> JK........but....Is it true that stress and anxiety cause a body to
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> Take care, and good luck, JK,
> Sharon

Secondary hypercortisolism as a result of stress?

1: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Nov;87(11):4872-8. Related Articles, Cited
in PMC, Books, LinkOut

Comment in:
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Nov;87(11):4869-71.

Patients with subclinical Cushing's syndrome due to adrenal adenoma have
increased cardiovascular risk.

Tauchmanova L, Rossi R, Biondi B, Pulcrano M, Nuzzo V, Palmieri EA, Fazio S,
Lombardi G.

Department of Molecular and Clinical Endocrinology and Oncology, University
Federico II, Via S. Pansini n. 5, 801 31 Naples, Italy. tauchman@unina.it

Subclinical Cushing's syndrome (SCS) is increasingly being reported in
incidentally discovered adrenal adenomas; its hallmark is mild autonomous
cortisol hyperproduction without specific clinical signs of cortisol excess.
Increased prevalence of hypertension, obesity, and impaired glucose
tolerance have been described in SCS, but there is no specific study of the
risk factors for cardiovascular diseases. In this cross-sectional study we
assessed the cardiovascular profile in 28 consecutive SCS patients (19 women
and 9 men; aged 56 +/- 10.6 yr) compared with 100 controls matched for age,
gender, and body mass index. Systolic (P < 0.001) and diastolic (P < 0.005)
blood pressures were higher in patients, as were fasting glucose, insulin,
total cholesterol, triglycerides (all P < 0.001), and fibrinogen (P < 0.05).
Moreover, the insulin resistance index was increased in patients as was the
waist to hip ratio and mean carotid artery intima-media thickness (all P <
0.001). Of the patients, 60.7% had arterial hypertension, 71.4% had lipid
abnormalities, 28.6% had impaired glucose tolerance, 35.7% type 2 diabetes
mellitus, and 53.6% had abnormalities in hemostatic parameters.
Atherosclerotic plaques were more frequent in patients (P < 0.0001). Only 4
(14.3%) patients did not have multiple risk factors for cardiovascular
events. Six (21.3%) had clinical evidence of cardiovascular disease; another
11 (39.3%) had cardiovascular abnormalities as revealed by ultrasound
scanning of carotid arteries and/or electrocardiogram records. These results
strongly suggest that an increased cardiovascular risk profile, similar to
that described in overt Cushing's syndrome, is present in SCS subjects. This
finding supports the concept that chronic mild endogenous cortisol excess
may have important systemic effects on the human body.

PMID: 12414841 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Bill - 17 Jan 2006 00:49 GMT
>I do not get tired of doing work,
> I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
>
> jattinder.kumar@rediffmail.com |

David Rind is quite right. Also, my sister had a blockage. She seemed the
almost the perfect candidate to not have one - though there was some history
in our family. I attributed it to anxiety- she had recently had some major
problems. There have been some suggestions that anxiety increases the risk of
heart attacks. I noticed you posted to an anxiety board.

They gave me pictures at my last angioplasty - before and after. One blockage
was obvious, the other fuzzy. I'm not sure what good it would do you.

You have already suffered mild heart damage due to blockages. That's what
"Mild LV Dsyfunction."  means.

What kind of operation are they suggesting? If it is a tripple by-pass, you
MIGHT  be able to talk them into a series of angioplasties with the new drug
eluting stents. With the new stents, there is some debate on when to use
angioplasty and when to bypass. This is NOT a recommendation. It is a
suggestion on something to bring up with your Dr. if your case fits.

Bill - not a Dr.
GFX - 17 Jan 2006 08:50 GMT
1) Can heart blockage removed without getting operated
> 2) how can i view angography CD and interpret it
> 3) are their any test to verify heart blockage other than angiography
> 4) If my cholestrol was always in control than how come their is
> blockage ?

Since this was put here for obvious reasons, I guess I'll indulge it...

Question number one:  Please see David Rind's answer, posted on 1/16
Question number two:  Unless you are a physician, you can't interpret it.
Question number three:  No
Question number four:  Again, Dr. Rinds answer was quite adequate I thought.

OK?

G

>>I do not get tired of doing work,
>> I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
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>
> Bill - not a Dr.
Juhana Harju - 17 Jan 2006 09:39 GMT
: I do not get tired of doing work,
: I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
: 4) If my cholestrol was always in control than how come their is
: blockage ?

You might want to have a look at this thread in sci.med.nutrition:

http://tinyurl.com/dtvoa

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Juhana

mcs - 18 Jan 2006 03:48 GMT
one of the most important risk factors I am not sure anyone mentioned. Of
course I have not followed all the links . If you want to know ask.
>I do not get tired of doing work,
> I am non smoker, non drinker, vegetarian , havebeen taking lots of
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
>
> jattinder.kumar@rediffmail.com |
 
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