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Scientologist, the good, the bad

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kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 13 Jan 2006 18:57 GMT
I am with the scientologists to a certain extent.   I do not know the
circumstances of the girl that died and it surely is a tragedy.    AND mood
drugs have their benefits if used properly and not for every thought that
physicians decide can be managed by anti-depressants.
My objection to the stimulants are that they have a mind/body connection
that will cause one person taking a stimulant to unknowingly cause harm to
body or mind of another person in some relationship with them.   Strange,
strange, strange.   Yes, but that is the side effects of stimulants.   and
the concerned parties do not have to be in the same room for the harm to
continue, they can be miles and miles apart.    The classical example is
crohns illness and Ulcerative Colitis.    Just the escalation of persons
seeking help is an indication of something gone astray.     I am all for
anti-depressants, as I can use some, but knowing the damage they can do to
another, I must be content with Valium, which does no harm to anyone.
I am sick of writing this over and over, with no feedback.    And don't tell
me to stop writing.
This is as serious a subject in health care as any other.     Other
illnesses have signposts and respond to logic.    Crohns and UC do not.
If anyone can make any suggestions how to better inform the powers that be,
I would give anything.    Please give this some thought, before everyone is
a basket case.    Physicians and not exempt.   Many have crohns or UC.
but their ego keeps them on the scientific track, and there aint no science
with stimulants.
Gail Michael
Robert - 13 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT
> I am with the scientologists to a certain extent.   I do not know the
> circumstances of the girl that died and it surely is a tragedy.    AND mood
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> the concerned parties do not have to be in the same room for the harm to
> continue, they can be miles and miles apart.

You are a nut case. One person can cause harm to another miles away by
simply taking stimulants.

  The classical example is
> crohns illness and Ulcerative Colitis.

Nothing is classic. They don't even know what causes Crohns or UC.

   Just the escalation of persons
> seeking help is an indication of something gone astray.     I am all for
> anti-depressants, as I can use some, but knowing the damage they can do to
> another, I must be content with Valium, which does no harm to anyone.
> I am sick of writing this over and over, with no feedback.    And don't tell
> me to stop writing.

I think you need some pychological help as somebody miles away is causing
you to go nuts.

> This is as serious a subject in health care as any other.

I agree it is serious and you need to get some help.

    Other
> illnesses have signposts and respond to logic.    Crohns and UC do not.
> If anyone can make any suggestions how to better inform the powers that be,
> I would give anything.

Notify the doctors of the thoughts you are having so they can keep an eye on
you and not harm others or yourself.

  Please give this some thought, before everyone is
> a basket case.    Physicians and not exempt.   Many have crohns or UC.
> but their ego keeps them on the scientific track, and there aint no science
> with stimulants.
> Gail Michael
kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 13 Jan 2006 23:11 GMT
I tell every physician, psychiatrist I ever know or see just what I said
here.    Will not go into detail here, as you are entitled to your opinion.
Except to me you are the nutcase here and now.    The cause is not known by
the medical profession for crohns illness and UC, but I AM TELLING YOU THE
CAUSE.     Believe it or not.    But you will never know anything of value
to help the suffering and some dying by this strange, almost unbelievable
side effect of stimulants.
Gail

> You are a nut case. One person can cause harm to another miles away by
> simply taking stimulants.        (AND HAVING A MIND CONNECTION TO THE
PERSON MADE ILL)
> >The whole world is not of the logic we know nor scientific in EVERY
sense.
I realize how you come to your conclusions, but you are wrong.
 
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