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Acid, Base, Water & Temp. Balance?
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kumar - 09 Jan 2006 03:04 GMT Hello,
Acid, Base, Water and Temperature Balance(internal and outer) can be the prime consideration for homeostatis as these represent "environment" of our body's system and "vital" in nature. Slight imbalances in these may effect substancially and all or most disorder may be related to these. Their optimal level may be must for survival. I have few questions:-
1. Do imbalances in Acid, Base, Water or/and Temperature always happen in case of all or most diseases and disorders in body?
2. Should possible imbalances in these be the prime or must consideration for all or most disorderes and diseases?
3. Whether outer imbalances in these as in digestive tract, reproductive tract etc. is somewhat less considered currently?
4. Whether stresses from modern environment anf lifestyle can cause imbalances in these at outer and at internal level?
5. Can you tell me different normal ranges of Acid, Base, Water and Temperature at different body's sites (broadly at- outer, blood, Extra-cellular, IC etc.)? (eg. as digestive pH is different than blood pH).
Best wishes.
Jason - 09 Jan 2006 16:12 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Best wishes. Hello, You asked some excellent questions. I suggest that you read the following book. "The Acid-Alkaline Diet for Optimum Health" by Christopher Vasey, N.D. The author explains how to use pH test strips that determine whether your body is in an Acid state or an Alkaline state. You can buy the pH test strips at some drug stores. You could also do a google search for pH if you don't want to buy the book. I am not a doctor. Jason
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hawki63 - 09 Jan 2006 18:34 GMT > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > You asked some excellent questions. I suggest that you read the following book. > "The Acid-Alkaline Diet for Optimum Health" by Christopher Vasey, N.D. again...Jason...a bullsh*t book...written by a "naturopathic doctor"...ie ..someone who BOUGHT a certificate probably from a matchbook cover...NDs are NOT doctors in any true sense of the word
> The author explains how to use pH test strips that determine whether your > body is in an Acid state or an Alkaline state. these strips can ONLY test your urine...which does NOT tell you the most important question about your pH...which can only be tested with arterial blood specimens..
what is in your urine had NOTHING to do with your body"s "acid or alkaline state"
unless one is pretty sick...the kidneys and lungs are excellent at maintaining homeostasis of acid base...
You can buy the pH test
> strips at some drug stores. You could also do a google search for pH if > you don't want to buy the book. I am not a doctor. > Jason Jason - 10 Jan 2006 02:32 GMT > > > Hello, > > > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > you don't want to buy the book. I am not a doctor. > > Jason I have a question for you. Do you know what a "urine dip test" is? If so, do you know whether or not pH is one of the items that is tested (in a urine dip test)? If your answer is YES, why did you state: "what is in your urine had nothing with your body's acid or alkaline state"?
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kumar - 10 Jan 2006 03:07 GMT Jason thnks. Urine pH can indicate whether it is acidic or alkaline. It may also indicate inernal pH condition--acidic if urine is acidic...unless some disorders are there. However, blood pH is maintained within bery narrow range and so may not be indicative of pH imbalanes at other body sites.
Can you tell about optimal pH as required for various stages of spermiogenesis? Why vit.C is indicated for increasing sperm counts, mobility etc.?
> > > > Hello, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. Jason - 10 Jan 2006 17:20 GMT > Jason thnks. Urine pH can indicate whether it is acidic or alkaline. It > may also indicate inernal pH condition--acidic if urine is > acidic...unless some disorders are there. However, blood pH is > maintained within bery narrow range and so may not be indicative of pH > imbalanes at other body sites. I asked some other posters whether or not I found this information in a book that was written by doctors. What's your guess?
"Urine pH is a crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... When an accurate pH assessment of acid-base status and renal response is desired, the urine should be collected under circumstances more controlled than usual... ...Simultaneous serum pH may also be ordered..."
there is list of conditions associated with acid urine: metabolic acidosos is on the list
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hawki63 - 10 Jan 2006 19:19 GMT > > Jason thnks. Urine pH can indicate whether it is acidic or alkaline. It > > may also indicate inernal pH condition--acidic if urine is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I asked some other posters whether or not I found this information > in a book that was written by doctors. What's your guess? Jason...the "authors" of said book call them doctors...but they are "naturapathic doctors"
do you know the difference...
again..your philosophy is "it is written in a book,,,ergo it must be true"
> "Urine pH is a crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... > When an accurate pH assessment of acid-base status and renal response [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > there is list of conditions associated with acid urine: > metabolic acidosos is on the list hawki63 - 10 Jan 2006 03:28 GMT > > > > Hello, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > urine dip test)? If your answer is YES, why did you state: > "what is in your urine had nothing with your body's acid or alkaline state"? ok...let me clarify...the pH of your urine is not important...it is the BLOOD pH that indicates "acid base" balance...
testing pH of urine is one of this author's scams...
to people like you Jason
Jason - 10 Jan 2006 17:16 GMT > > > > > Hello, > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > to people like you Jason Did I make up the following statement or do you think that I found the statement in a book that was written by a team of three medical doctors:
"Urine pH is crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... When an accurate pH assessment of acid-base status and renal response is desired, the urine should be collected under circumstances more controlled than usual... ...Simultaneous serum pH mahy also be ordered..."
there is list of conditions: metabolic acidosos and metabolic alkalosis are on the list
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Robert - 10 Jan 2006 19:16 GMT "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-
> Did I make up the following statement or do you think that I found the > statement in a book that was written by a team of three medical doctors: > > "Urine pH is crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... Too crude to be used routinely in most cases. A urinalysis is done in order to check for ketones (ketoacidosis), glucose (fanconi syndrome), protein (tubular or glomerular proteinuria ) and infection.
> When an accurate pH assessment of acid-base status and renal response The renal response means that one can have renal tubular acidosis being the origins of the metabolic acidosis associated with bicarbonate wasting in the urine rendering the urine more alkaline than usual and not more acidic than usual. The urine pH may be misleading. This type of acidosis is the opposite in pH compared to what it should be in urine. The only way to tell is by doing a blood gas ABG to determine acidosis or alkalosis. The blood CO2's relationship to the pH is important in determining mixed acid-base conditons such as metabolic acidosis combined with respiratory alkalosis.
> is desired, the urine should be collected under circumstances more > controlled than usual... ...Simultaneous serum pH mahy also be ordered..." The circumstances refer to collection anaerobically meaning in a syringe and placed on ice or in urine in a cup with an oil overlay to protect from air after bicarb loading the patient to correct the acidosis. Urine CO2 are also performed and I have seen this about once every five years or so. To say that it is routinely done or implied is way off.
Urine pH's are monitored in some intensive care situations involving some therapeutic interventions which are more commonly performed but again this occurs a handful of times a month.
The book, like the one concerning "eat right for your blood type" is based on sound medical science but both take the interpretation off to space once you leave the basic medical science. It's sort of like telling people not to breath oxygen because oxygen is involved in the origins of oxidative damage.
Jason - 10 Jan 2006 20:12 GMT > "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason- > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > It's sort of like telling people not to breath oxygen because oxygen is > involved in the origins of oxidative damage. I obtained the information from this book: "Laboratory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David Jacobs, MD Wayne Demott, MD Dwight Oxley, MD I copied the info. from page 901-902
There are 18 conditions associated with Acid Urine and Alkaline Urine. That means the dipstick test is a very important test. Some of the conditions on the list: metabolic acidosis or alkalosis diabetes mellitus renal tubular acidosis
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Tony Wesley - 10 Jan 2006 21:05 GMT > I obtained the information from this book: [...] Jason, I advise you to read "Dioretix: The Science of Matter over Mind". This book will change your life.
listener - 10 Jan 2006 22:18 GMT "Tony Wesley" <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in news:1136927153.271800.270430 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>> I obtained the information from this book: [...] > > Jason, I advise you to read "Dioretix: The Science of Matter over > Mind". This book will change your life. May I suggest "Diarrhetics - Clear Bowels, Clear Mind."
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Ivan Vasiljevic - 11 Jan 2006 04:04 GMT "May I suggest "Diarrhetics - Clear Bowels, Clear Mind."
The title tels a lot about this book. Let me sugest that using Diarrhetics (drugs) is not recomended unless prescribed. These drugs are effective in the begining, afterwards appears resistance. And to get the same effect, you need to increase dosage. When you get in your sixties or seventhies (if you already didn't) you'll have a constipation resistant to any therapeutical method."Loaded Bowels, Altered Mind :) "
Physical activities, abdominal exrecises, abdominal massage, eating food reach in fibers are some methods that could make "clear bowels" without side effects.
Ivan Vasiljevic, medical student @ www.umfcv.ro
kumar - 12 Jan 2006 05:51 GMT Ivan,
Can we clear bowl by antacids or by traditional Sod.Bicarbonate? Antacids are just prescribed as antacids but different antacids may have different types of effects esp. on constipated and people with clear/loose motion. Magnessium and sodium based antacids are for constipateed people and other for people with clear/loose motions. I think sugar and citric based foods also clear bowls.
Can temp. imbalances be acid,base and water imbalances dependent? I am just trying to ubderstand most basic cause.
Do you know about optimal pH and temp. as required from sperms growth and maturity? Sometimes I find indications that azoospermia esp. non-obstructive may be dependent on imbalances in optimal pH and temp. as vit.c is indicated at many links which may effect pH? I think it may effect via "redox" capabilities in body.
Best wishes.
> "May I suggest "Diarrhetics - Clear Bowels, Clear Mind." > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Ivan Vasiljevic, > medical student @ www.umfcv.ro Robert - 10 Jan 2006 21:14 GMT "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason->
> I obtained the information from this book: > "Laboratory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by > David Jacobs, MD > Wayne Demott, MD > Dwight Oxley, MD > I copied the info. from page 901-902 I did not say the information incorrect only that it is misleading. It pertains to a very very limited use on selected patients.
> There are 18 conditions associated with Acid Urine and Alkaline Urine. ALL acid-base disorders are assoicated with alkaline or acid urine. The kidneys and urine production is an important regulator of acid-base as is the lungs so it is always involved but again the urine is of limited use under limited circumstances such as RTA.
> That means the dipstick test is a very important test. > Some of the conditions on the list: > metabolic acidosis or alkalosis > diabetes mellitus > renal tubular acidosis In general it is of limited importance and not very important in most cases. A urinalysis is more important than simply a urine pH. Most of the urinalysis that are performed are acidic or pH of 7, My guess would be 99% of urines. My objection is the singeling out of pH in the urine when other urine analytes are just as important or more important. The urine anion gap in denoting origins of metabolic acidosis is important. The mesurement of urine cl- in metabolic alkalosis is important. Metabolic acidosis can be divided into anion gap and non-anion gap acidosis based on blood and or urine testing and more importantly a blood gas analysis. An acid urine is normal and patients with a pH of 7 is also normal and those with metabolic alkalosis can have a pH of 7.
Robert - 10 Jan 2006 22:09 GMT "Robert" <Robertsnospam2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > That means the dipstick test is a very important test. > > Some of the conditions on the list: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In general it is of limited importance and not very important in most cases. > A urinalysis is more important than simply a urine pH. I misread what the author wrote. "dipstick test" would imply the entire biochemical strip and not just the pH.
Metabolic acidosis is not a diagnosis. It is a symptom and the entire dipstick is important in determining the origin of the metabolic acidosis and coming to a diagnosis
Jason - 11 Jan 2006 00:19 GMT > "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-> > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > An acid urine is normal and patients with a pH of 7 is also normal and those > with metabolic alkalosis can have a pH of 7. Thanks for your post. I should note that I obtained the information in my last two posts from this book: "Laboratory Test Handbook" (2nd edition) by David Jacobs, MD; Wayne Demott, MD; Dwight Oxley, MD The info. was copied from pages 901-902
I just wanted to add that that this sentence was in the book related to this issue: "Simultaneous serum pH may also be ordered".
It's my guess that the doctors that wrote the book would agree that the serum pH test is far superior to urine pH test. Jason
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REP - 10 Jan 2006 06:25 GMT In article <jason-0901061832200001@66-52-22-15.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net>,
> I have a question for you. Do you know what a "urine dip test" is? If so, > do you know whether or not pH is one of the items that is tested (in a > urine dip test)? Do you? There are many urine dipstick tests available, including some that only test for ketones and glucose, or nitrites and leukocytes.
> If your answer is YES, why did you state: > "what is in your urine had nothing with your body's acid or alkaline state"? Once again, you demonstrate that you should not be let onto the 'net without a leash. On the usual 7-, 9- or 10-reagent pad urine dipstick, yes, pH is one thing that is measured, but it's primary use is to determine the acidity of urine - not of blood or anything else. A urine pH can help determine why a patient is forming or stones/what type of stone a patient has formed, or to monitor urinary pH-altering treatment (to name the most common uses).
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Jason - 10 Jan 2006 17:14 GMT > In article > <jason-0901061832200001@66-52-22-15.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > stone a patient has formed, or to monitor urinary pH-altering treatment > (to name the most common uses). Did I make up the following statement or do you think that I found the statement in a book that was written by a team of three medical doctors:
"Urine pH is crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... When an accurate pH assessment of acid-base status and renal response is desired, the urine should be collected under circumstances more controlled than usual... ...Simultaneous serum pH mahy also be ordered..."
there is list of conditions associated with acid urine: metabolic acidosos and metabolic alkalosis are on the list
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Robert - 10 Jan 2006 19:37 GMT "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-
> Did I make up the following statement or do you think that I found the > statement in a book that was written by a team of three medical doctors: > > "Urine pH is crude indicator of the acid-base balance of the body... You didn't make it up only that it is misleading. I do the work for hundreds of doctors so I would know what doctors order and don't order. In general one has a complete urinalysis ordered on admission to the hospital and very rarely does one have only a pH ordered and in very limited circumstances at that. The numbers compared to blood gas analysis far out number the request for urine pH's. Urine pH's are on occasion performed at bedside by nurses in order to monitor the urine out-put in therapies but because there is no monitoring of daily QC this practice was stopped in order to fall in compliance with regulatory agencies. Urine pH's have been performed q 4 hours in very rare situations.
Jason - 10 Jan 2006 20:10 GMT > "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason- > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > compliance with regulatory agencies. > Urine pH's have been performed q 4 hours in very rare situations. Your guess was correct. I obtained the information from this book: "Laboratory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David Jacobs, MD Wayne Demott, MD Dwight Oxley, MD I copied the info. from page 901-902
I only disagree with one of your points. There are 18 conditions associated with Acid Urine and Alkaline Urine. That means the dipstick test is a very important test. Some of the conditions on the list: metabolic acidosis or alkalosis diabetes mellitus renal tubular acidosis
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Robert - 10 Jan 2006 22:20 GMT "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-
> I only disagree with one of your points. There are 18 conditions > associated with Acid Urine and Alkaline Urine. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > diabetes mellitus > renal tubular acidosis You are welcome to your opinion but professionally I can tell you that you can not take a urine pH and then decide that one has acidosis or alkalosis. It doesn't work that way as some would have you believe.
Acid loads are excreted by the kidneys on a daily minute by minute basis under completely normal circumstances and these can not be distinguished from acid-base imbalances that also impact the urine acid-base status.
In short there are 18 conditions that can make the urine acid or alkaline and there is ONE BIG ONE and that is a normal person reacting to diet and ones metabolic status. Anyone wanting to alter diet to change their urine pH can pretty much prove that point that he is normal. If one can not discern a normal from abnormal or appropriate from inappropriate level then it is of limited use.
Jason - 11 Jan 2006 00:19 GMT > "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason- > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > If one can not discern a normal from abnormal or appropriate from > inappropriate level then it is of limited use. Thanks for your post. I should note that I obtained the information in my last two posts from this book: "Laboratory Test Handbook" (2nd edition) by David Jacobs, MD; Wayne Demott, MD; Dwight Oxley, MD The info. was copied from pages 901-902
I just wanted to add that that this sentence was in the book related to this issue: "Simultaneous serum pH may also be ordered".
It's my guess that the doctors that wrote the book would agree that the serum pH test is far superior to urine pH test. Jason
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kumar - 16 Jan 2006 12:32 GMT "Long-term correction of blood pH requires the kidneys to excrete the acid or base in urine. For example, when your blood pH is low (acidic), your kidneys react by excreting more acid in the urine. The urine pH becomes more acidic until the blood pH returns to normal.
In some cases, checking your urine pH is helpful for identifying body acid-base imbalances. In other cases, a blood pH test is needed."
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003583.htm
The above link gives lot of detainls on urine pH.
> > In article > > <jason-0901061832200001@66-52-22-15.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net>, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. Robert - 16 Jan 2006 19:00 GMT > In some cases, checking your urine pH is helpful for identifying body > acid-base imbalances. In other cases, a blood pH test is needed." > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003583.htm In a few instances a urine pH is helpful and a complete urinalysis is usually done to check for other tubular defects and not just pH and in all cases a blood pH, which is an arterial puncture for blood gas analysis, is needed to determine acidosis or alkalosis. One can not do that by a urine pH alone.
Jason - 16 Jan 2006 19:52 GMT > > In some cases, checking your urine pH is helpful for identifying body > > acid-base imbalances. In other cases, a blood pH test is needed." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > needed to determine acidosis or alkalosis. One can not do that by a urine > pH alone. Robert, Excellent post. I agree with you. However, most of us don't work in a clinic or hospital so can't check our blood pH on a daily or even weekly basis. Do you agree that checking our urine pH at least once a week (on even once a day) is an an excellent way of identifying body acid-base imbalances. Jason
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kumar - 17 Jan 2006 03:41 GMT Can acidosis be sulphur, phosphate or nitrogen based? Can we relate in any manner, sulphur with ketoacidosis, phosphates with lactic acidosis and nitrogen with uremic(BUN) acidosis?
> > In some cases, checking your urine pH is helpful for identifying body > > acid-base imbalances. In other cases, a blood pH test is needed." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > needed to determine acidosis or alkalosis. One can not do that by a urine > pH alone. Ivan Vasiljevic - 10 Jan 2006 04:56 GMT 1. Do imbalances in Acid, Base, Water or/and Temperature always happen in case of all or most diseases and disorders in body?
Yes. Underlying acid-base, water and temperature imbalances do exist in all diseases. These imbalances are limited to one region of body (organ) or general (imbalances in whole body, whole system) depending of the character of the disease (organ disease or systemic disease). These imbalances are secondary to disease. For example a skin infection. Metabolism is accelerated in the region of infection (blood inflow is greater and temperature increases). From accelerated metabolism result protons that decrease local pH and irritate nervous terminations (pain appears). Local decreased pH (local acidosis) makes vessels more permeable for water and water gets into tissue (swelling appears).
There are also conditions that appear upon installing of an acid-base imbalance, i.e. acidosis or alkalosis, upon installing of a water imbalance, i.e. hyper hydrated or hypo hydrated and upon installing of temperature imbalance, i.e. hyperthermia or hypothermia.
Blood pH range is 7.35-7.45
Ivan Vasiljevic, medical student @ www.umfcv.ro
kumar - 10 Jan 2006 07:11 GMT Ivan,
Thanks. I think you are telling on getting inflamation or infection. What about on getting any degenarative and chronic changes(fibrosis, scaring, cancer, latent infections etc.)?
Can we treat any disease/disorder just by correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances?
> 1. Do imbalances in Acid, Base, Water or/and Temperature always happen > in case of all or most diseases and disorders in body? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Ivan Vasiljevic, > medical student @ www.umfcv.ro Ivan Vasiljevic - 11 Jan 2006 04:45 GMT Yes, I was referring to infection and inflammation. And I was referring to any kind of infection (medical or surgical). I have no answer at the moment for degenerative diseases. Chronic changes......it too waste term. Fibrosis is a process of producing fibers of collagen (a protein) by fibrocytes (cells). It can occur of unknown cause (pulmonary fibrosis) or as a repairing process in last phase of inflammation (scar). If there is a pulmonary fibrosis, it will affect pulmonary capacity of maintaining normal pH (lungs are important mechanism in maintaining blood pH). Temperature and water are not implicated. If there is a scare, there are no words to say. About cancer. Cancer is not a local disease. It implicates whole body. In cancers appears a paraneoplasic syndrome which includes hormonal changes, electrolytes' changes, acid-base changes, water changes, temperature is usually elevated in advanced stages (37-38 degrees Celsius).
Can we treat any disease/disorder just by correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances?
Yes and No. Yes, for alkalosis or acidosis, hypo- and hyperthermia, hypo- or hyper- hydrated states. No, for other diseases, because these changes are not underlying cause of respective diseases. You can correct imbalances and obtain some good results in a patient, but the mechanism of the respective disease is not stopped and diseases will make her natural evolution.
Ivan Vasiljevic, medical student @ www.umfcv.ro
P.S. It would be great if we could treat any disease/disorder just by correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances!
Jason - 11 Jan 2006 16:29 GMT > Yes, I was referring to infection and inflammation. And I was referring > to any kind of infection (medical or surgical). [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > It would be great if we could treat any disease/disorder just by > correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances! Ivan, Excellent post. I had a major acid/base problem as a result of taking a diuretic--which is a medication that can cause acid/base problems. I used pH test strips to make sure my pH level was within the normal range. If you want to learn more about pH strips, read "The Acid-Base Diet" by Christopher Vasey, N.D. Jason
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kumar - 12 Jan 2006 05:33 GMT Iva, another good post. God will bless for your success.
Can you nme few diseases whose causes at primary or secondary levels are not based on acid/base water or temp. imbalances?
> Yes, I was referring to infection and inflammation. And I was referring > to any kind of infection (medical or surgical). [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > It would be great if we could treat any disease/disorder just by > correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances! Ivan Vasiljevic - 13 Jan 2006 20:26 GMT Systemic lupus erithematosus, Rheumatoid arthritis, Arrhythmias, Mitral insufficiency, Primary hypertension, Steatosis, Achalasia, Acute leukemia, Irritable bowel syndrome, Prostate adenoma, etc.
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kumar - 14 Jan 2006 02:36 GMT Let us consider RA. Is it not due to some iron and calcium imbalance? Can't Imbalances in iron and calcium be due to imbalances in gastric acid (digestion, overriding the mucus lining etc.)? Antacid are contraindicated for iron, calcium and many other substanes and vit.c which may raise acid levels is indicated for better iron absorption. If any imbalance is due to excesses or deficiencies, can't body mechanism trigger less or more digestion so absorption of many substances by altering digestive juices or by altering digestive pH?
> Systemic lupus erithematosus, Rheumatoid arthritis, Arrhythmias, Mitral > insufficiency, Primary hypertension, Steatosis, Achalasia, Acute > leukemia, Irritable bowel syndrome, Prostate adenoma, etc. > > Ivan Vasiljevic, > medical student @ www.umfcv.ro Jason - 14 Jan 2006 17:20 GMT > Ivan, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Can we treat any disease/disorder just by correcting acid/base water or > temp. imbalances? kuman, I am not a doctor. We can NOT cure all diseases/disorders just by correcting acid/base water or temp. imbalances. We can treat some disorders such as metabolic disorders by correcting acid/base water imbalances. I suggest that you do t google search related to pH metabolic disorders Acid-Alkaline
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kumar - 13 Jan 2006 07:55 GMT Ivan,
with referance to your reply, you have given example of acute infection/inflamation which is acidosis, hyper-hydrated and hyperthermia related. What about chronic conditions, latent infections or cancer? As we don't feel pain, heat or swelling, can these be realted to alkalosis, hypo hydrated and hypothermia?
Do we feel pain in case of alkaline condition Can chronic/latent infection be
> 1. Do imbalances in Acid, Base, Water or/and Temperature always happen > in case of all or most diseases and disorders in body? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Ivan Vasiljevic, > medical student @ www.umfcv.ro Ivan Vasiljevic - 13 Jan 2006 21:10 GMT Usually in advanced stadiums of cancer there is an increase in temperature as I mentioned in one earlier post (37-38 degrees Celsius). "Chronic conditions" is a wide term and there are different underlying causes of them, so I can't give you an answer. And if you refer to "latent infection" as presence of a bacteria (or virus or some other microorganism) AND absence of immune system response, there can't be any imbalance of acid-base, temperature or water.
"As we don't feel pain, heat or swelling, can these be realted to alkalosis, hypo hydrated and hypothermia?" Alkalosis, hypo hydrated state and hypothermia are pathological states. And we "don't feel pain, heat or swelling" in the state that is called HEALTH.
Ivan Vasiljevic, medical student @ www.umfcv.ro
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