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What percentage of kids are not toilet trained by age four?

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johngilmer@yahoo.com - 25 Dec 2005 18:58 GMT
Does anyone have any info on this topic? Out daughter turned 4 this
past October (2005). We trained our first daughter at 27 months and it
was quick and painless. We started our second daughter when she was
about 27 months. It's now almost 2 years later and she still has many
accidents a day. We've tried everything we can think of and nothing
seems to work. We can't tell if she knows when she needs to pee/poop
and just doesn't care, or if she really can't tell. She has
occasionally had good periods where she has gone for weeks without an
accident. So that has made us think she is able, but just isn't
motivated. But she seems to want to not have accidents and it honestly
seems like she has no idea she needs to go.  Even after she goes,
she'll be damp 30 minutes later, which mean the pee is "trickling"
rather than being "saved up" for an hour or two like it should. She is
developmentally normal in every other way.  We
went to the doctor to see if she had any physiological problems but he
didn't find any.  But he was a family practitioner rather than a
pediactric urologist.  They even did an ultrasound.  I am wondering if
we should go to a specialist or whether she is still in the "normal"
range of kids who don't have control, in which case we should just wait
it out.  How old do you think she should be before we see a specialist?
Thanks in advance.
O'Hush - 26 Dec 2005 02:16 GMT
> Does anyone have any info on this topic? Out daughter turned 4 this
> past October (2005). We trained our first daughter at 27 months and it
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> it out.  How old do you think she should be before we see a specialist?
> Thanks in advance.

This link is from Johns Hopkins pediatric urology.  They say it's not
abnormal until after age 5, so presumably that's the age to see a
specialist about it.

http://urology.jhu.edu/pediatric/diseases/enuresis.php

And I learned this the hard way:  Diapers and pull-ups draw the
moisture away from the skin and delay potty training for some kids by
making accidents comfortable.  I think many kids need accidents to feel
uncomfortably wet and messy to help them learn awareness.  Even the
pull-ups with "feel wet liners" don't feel nearly as wet and messy as
icky stuff dripping down your legs.  

Good luck :)

--Patti
Twittering One - 26 Dec 2005 02:29 GMT
Merry Christmas
O Hush!
O'Hush - 26 Dec 2005 15:11 GMT
> Merry Christmas
> O Hush!

Merry Christmas V.  :)
 
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