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Medical Forum / General / General / January 2006Athlete's foot or toilet seat bacteria?
I used to sleep on the floor, I was diagnosed with borderline HBP last year, this year took and then stopped hydrochlorothiazide, am watching sodium intake, take vitamins, eat fresh fruits, some canned vegetables and tv dinners, had an infection in my gums, was given penicillin which also gave me diarrhea and used it all, now experience diarrhea, actually feces comes out thready. Could it be IBS or just that my system is taking so long cleaning itself from the hydrochlorothiazide and penicillin I took before? Or, is it due to athlete's foot fungus, for which I am now applying chlormazole (sp?), and can athlete's foot fungus spread to the penis and anus? Or can it be pesky bacteria from the toilet seat (or fecal matter) getting into the penis or anus? I experience a burning sensation when I sit, yesterday I felt pain even I went for a walk for 90 minutes. I took a good hot shower today after about three weeks of not feeling like doing so. ???? > I used to sleep on the floor, I was diagnosed with borderline HBP > last year, this > year took and then stopped hydrochlorothiazide, It's very important that you only stop your HBP medication under the supervision of your doctor. Uncontrolled HBP can cause your heart to enlarge dangerously, can damage your kidneys, or cause you to have a stroke. > am watching sodium > intake, take > vitamins, eat fresh fruits, Good, but I don't think these changes have been shown to control even borderline HBP. Regular aerobic exercise (like brisk walking 3x a week for at least 30 minutes) may bring your BP down enough to get you off the meds, but you still need your doc to monitor this. >some canned vegetables and tv dinners, Maybe too much sodium there. However, some people have HBP that does not respond to reducing sodium, so you can't rely on it to control your BP anyway. Regular exercise is your best bet to safely get off medication, under your doc's supervision. > had an infection > in my gums, was given penicillin which also gave me diarrhea and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hydrochlorothiazide and penicillin > I took before? I don't see how your diarrhea could have anything to do with the HCTZ since diarrhea isn't listed as a side-effect of HCTZ, and you're not even taking it anymore. More likely: The antibiotics may have wiped out the friendly bacteria in your colon, causing you to have an overgrowth of yeast, which causes diarrhea. You might eat some yogurt every day for a week or so, or take acidophilus capsules (aka probiotics) from a heath food store to repopulate the normal friendly bacteria in your GI tract. > Or, is it due to athlete's foot fungus, for which I > am now applying > chlormazole (sp?), and can athlete's foot fungus spread to the penis > and anus? Jock itch and athlete's foot are caused by the same fungus, but if your anus is itchy and you have diarrhea, it's probably candida albicans (a yeast infection) in your lower GI tract. You've killed off your friendly bacteria with the antibiotics, so you're more susceptible to fungal/yeast infections of all kinds now. > Or > can it be pesky bacteria from the toilet seat (or fecal matter) > getting into the penis or > anus? People don't actually get sick from toilet seats any more than from touching other surfaces in public places. Just wash your hands after you use a public restroom, and don't touch your face unless your hands are clean. The jock itch and your itchy anus are probably caused by different germs, but may both be promoted by your recent course of antibiotics. In my experience, you have to treat the itchy anus from the inside with yogurt or probiotics, or if you wait long enough, the friendly flora will eventually repopulate on their own. The jock itch and athlete's foot you can treat with tioconazole or any of the other topical antifungal agents, but personally I like LAVENDER ESSENTIAL OIL better. I think it works a lot faster and better than the OTC meds. My friends and family all use this and swear by it. You can get it at a natural grocery or sometimes at health food stores. If you have an active infection on or around your penis, it will sting like crazy if you don't mix it with another oil. You can use mineral oil. I like almond oil, but it's nutritive and some say it increases your risk for promoting microbial growth, but I haven't found that to be the case. I mix 1/2 ounce of lavender essential oil in 8 oz of almond oil (but mineral oil might be safer). Apply it once a day after bathing; it works in a few days, but keep using it for at least a week, and at the first sign of returning symptoms. It works like a charm for TOPICAL fungus or yeast like athlete's foot, jock itch, and vaginal yeast infections. (DON'T DRINK IT.) > I experience a burning sensation when I sit, yesterday I felt > pain even I went > for a walk for 90 minutes. I took a good hot shower today after > about three weeks > of not feeling like doing so. ???? But of course be sure you're washing your feet and privates every day. This will reduce the numbers of yeast/fungus. The OTC antifungal agents recommend washing twice a day and applying. Are you doing this? --Patti > It's very important that you only stop your HBP medication under the > supervision of your doctor. Uncontrolled HBP can cause your heart to > enlarge dangerously, can damage your kidneys, or cause you to have a > stroke. They had me stop the thiazide (side effects; probably wasn't needed anymore) as of Nov 28th. > Maybe too much sodium there. TV dinners limited to 500mg-700mg sodium (one serving only) in a day. Does not mean I will eat everyday; eventually I may stop them, for only as long as they are $1.00 each, I buy and heat (in microwave) at this local market. > However, some people have HBP that does > not respond to reducing sodium, so you can't rely on it to control your > BP anyway. Regular exercise is your best bet to safely get off > medication, under your doc's supervision. Yes, exercise as simple as activity as walking if not more. > I don't see how your diarrhea could have anything to do with the HCTZ > since diarrhea isn't listed as a side-effect of HCTZ, and you're not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > probiotics) from a heath food store to repopulate the normal friendly > bacteria in your GI tract. Constipation and hemorrhoids were a side effect of the HCTZ. I was mainly borderline HBP and the doctor was scared to give me the HCTZ in the first place. Someone suggested I cxonsult an attorney since the doctor may have made an error. The only benefit I can see from having taken it (it was upped twice a few days before I stopped--actually a tranquiizer would have better than the diuretic, which had pretty much run its course of productivity. At the onset I urinated like crazy, but as time went by the pottasium, calcium and magnesium being excreted became a serious danger. I have taken Metamucil twice a day since last Fri, as well. Ate some papaya yesterday as well. > Jock itch and athlete's foot are caused by the same fungus, but if your > anus is itchy and you have diarrhea, it's probably candida albicans (a > yeast infection) in your lower GI tract. You've killed off your > friendly bacteria with the antibiotics, so you're more susceptible to > fungal/yeast infections of all kinds now. Interesting how athlete's foot fungus can spread to the rest of the body. I feel vibrations at times at the back of my neck, in my hamstrings and in my feet too. Could very well be the GI tract, this began in the summer. > People don't actually get sick from toilet seats any more than from > touching other surfaces in public places. Just wash your hands after [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > fungus or yeast like athlete's foot, jock itch, and vaginal yeast > infections. (DON'T DRINK IT.) I have heard suggestions of using hydrogen peroxide, after shave lotion or rubbing alcohol directly on the penis as well. Maybe the clorimazole creme used for the fungus can be good on the penis, too? Maybe exposure to latex or rubber can irritate the penis. > But of course be sure you're washing your feet and privates every day. > This will reduce the numbers of yeast/fungus. The OTC antifungal > agents recommend washing twice a day and applying. Are you doing this? I have been applying the cream on the toes and feet twice ay but I don't wash my feet or privates everyday. On the other hand, it sounds like a good idea, maybe the hassle is worth the bother. > Constipation and hemorrhoids were a side effect of the HCTZ. You may not have been drinking enough fluids. > I was > mainly > borderline HBP and the doctor was scared to give me the HCTZ in the > first place. Someone suggested I cxonsult an attorney since the doctor > may have made an error. To effectively sue for malpractice or negligence, you have to have some sort of lasting injury that you can prove in court is the direct result of an error by a healthcare professional. > The only benefit I can see from having taken > it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Interesting how athlete's foot fungus can spread to the rest of the > body. That's not what I said. Only jock itch and athlete's foot are the same. > I feel vibrations at times at the back of my neck, in my hamstrings > and > in my feet too. Could very well be the GI tract, this began in the > summer. The gastrointestinal (GI) tract starts at your mouth and ends at your anus, so I don't think those symptoms are related to your GI tract. > I have heard suggestions of using hydrogen peroxide, after > shave lotion or rubbing alcohol directly on the penis as well. Well, I promise if you try that last one, you'll only do it once, and it's not likely to help much. Rubbing alcohol stings. Shave lotion has alcohol in it and will sting too. The peroxide might kill a few fungi but it doesn't stay on the infected area long enough to kill them all. The lavender oil remedy is cheaper, easier, and works a lot better than anything else, including all the very expensive over-the-counter creams you can buy. It smells better too. It also reduces the itching and stinging on contact. > Maybe the clorimazole creme used for the fungus can be good on the > penis, > too? Clotrimazole is fine for jock itch and athlete's foot, but you have to wash the area and apply it twice a day for up to four weeks. > Maybe exposure to latex or rubber can irritate the penis. Well, yeah, if you're rubbing it on your penis while masturbating. When you're aroused, you don't have the same sensations of pain as when you're not, so you're probably exacerbating the jock itch with the sex toys, and the toys may be a reservoir for reinfecting your skin with fungus. How about laying off the latex toys until your infection is better? You'll need to clean them carefully before using them again after your infection goes away. > > But of course be sure you're washing your feet and privates every day. > > This will reduce the numbers of yeast/fungus. The OTC antifungal [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wash my feet or privates everyday. On the other hand, it sounds like a > good idea, maybe the hassle is worth the bother. I can virtually promise you that your infection will *not* go away unless you wash at least once a day. You should at least rinse or wipe the affected area each time before you apply the antifungal cream. If you wash daily and apply the essential lavender oil remedy I recommended, your jock itch and athlete's foot will be greatly improved or gone in less than a week and you'll only have to wash and apply it once a day. > > Constipation and hemorrhoids were a side effect of the HCTZ. > > You may not have been drinking enough fluids. I drank coffee, water and juice. More coffee but it pleased me. Some days I drank 8 glasses water, other days less. It was tiresome! > To effectively sue for malpractice or negligence, you have to have some > sort of lasting injury that you can prove in court is the direct result > of an error by a healthcare professional. Well, the MD was hesitant to prescribe HCTZ but did it anyway. Maybe he should not have gambled. I am not the type to be an opportunist for $, but I am considering consulting an attorney out of curiosity anyway. Wouldn't get much out of it anyway. > > The only benefit I can see from having taken > > it [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > That's not what I said. Only jock itch and athlete's foot are the > same. The same type infection...no wonder my penis burns at times when I urinate. The toilet seat bacteria I referred to were on my *own* toilet seat not public. > > I feel vibrations at times at the back of my neck, in my hamstrings > > and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The gastrointestinal (GI) tract starts at your mouth and ends at your > anus, so I don't think those symptoms are related to your GI tract. Well, at one point before they took me off the HCTZ I felt a wave of vibrations from the mouth to the anus. > Well, I promise if you try that last one, you'll only do it once, and > it's not likely to help much. Rubbing alcohol stings. Shave lotion [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > toys, and the toys may be a reservoir for reinfecting your skin with > fungus. The latex vagina may have had residue of dry sperm contents or bacteria from the bathroom sink in which it rested at times. How about laying off the latex toys until your infection is > better? You'll need to clean them carefully before using them again > after your infection goes away. I have since thrown away one of them, it came with a talc cream. It was a vagina molded after porn star Tera Patrick's vagina, supposedly. > I can virtually promise you that your infection will *not* go away > unless you wash at least once a day. You should at least rinse or wipe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > or gone in less than a week and you'll only have to wash and apply it > once a day. I'll try. My right big toe was aching the other day, it has been infected pretty much for several but I have paid more attention to it lately. The skin on my right leg has a burning sensation every so often. My right metatarsal hurts as well. I don't know if it has to do with shoes, (I tried an orthotic but I pained some yesterday, also I feel muscle spasms in my back when I walk. Could be related to the JI/AF infections too? I bought fungal infection medicine at Wal-Mart. May try that soon. I'll keep your lavender oil therapy in mind, nothing to lose. (I know aftershave lotion stings but the burning of the skin is aggravating enough as it is. ) > > > Constipation and hemorrhoids were a side effect of the HCTZ. > > > > You may not have been drinking enough fluids. > > I drank coffee, water and juice. More coffee but it pleased me. > Some days I drank 8 glasses water, other days less. It was tiresome! Coffee contains caffeine, which is a diuretic (as is HCTZ), and tends to dehydrate you. When you get dehydrated, you're at risk for getting constipated. > > To effectively sue for malpractice or negligence, you have to have some > > sort of lasting injury that you can prove in court is the direct result > > of an error by a healthcare professional. > > Well, the MD was hesitant to prescribe HCTZ but did it anyway. Did he say why he was hesitant? > Maybe he > should not have gambled. I am not the type to be an opportunist for $, > but I am > considering consulting an attorney out of curiosity anyway. Wouldn't > get much out of it > anyway. You won't get anything out of it. Most likely the attorney will get you out of his office before he's heard much of your story. It's a nonstarter. Whoever told you to consult an attorney was just plain wrong. > The toilet seat bacteria I referred to were on my *own* toilet seat > not public. Assuming your toilet seat isn't visibly soiled with icky stuff, it isn't likely to make you sick. Unless you have a lot of parties or share a bathroom with a neighbor, you're probably immune to most of the germs at your own house. > Well, at one point before they took me off the HCTZ I felt a wave > of vibrations from > the mouth to the anus. I don't know what that could be. > The latex vagina may have had residue of dry sperm contents or > bacteria from the > bathroom sink in which it rested at times. First of all, your own semen isn't likely to make you sick. Second, you apparently don't have a bacterial infection. You say you have jock itch, which is a fungal infection. The fungus that causes jock itch lives on everybody's skin all the time, but they don't get infected with it because the friendly bacteria that live on their skin compete with the fungus so it doesn't overgrow, and besides that, clean, healthy skin is slightly acidic and salty, which is bad for fungus. If your skin stays irritated and wet, and you don't wash it enough, you create conditions which make fungus very happy, and so they overgrow and you get a fungal infection, also known as jock itch or athlete's foot. The antibiotics you took recently probably killed a lot of the friendly bacteria that live on your skin and compete with the fungus, which also promoted the fungal infection. To get the fungus under control with the clotrimazole or any other antifungal cream, you're going to have to wash twice a day and apply the cream to all affected areas for at least two weeks, maybe four. > > How about laying off the latex toys until your infection is > > better? You'll need to clean them carefully before using them again [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > was a vagina > molded after porn star Tera Patrick's vagina, supposedly. Well let me just say, the less I know about your interactions with latex vaginas, the better. :p Just wash them each time after you use them. > I'll try. My right big toe was aching the other day, it has been > infected pretty [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the > JI/AF infections too? No. The muscle spasms can't be related to your jock itch or athlete's foot. > I bought fungal infection medicine at Wal-Mart. May try that soon. > I'll > keep your lavender oil therapy in mind, nothing to lose. Okay, but just the way I said. Don't go buying lavender massage oil or lotion -- it won't work; it may have lavender fragrance with no real lavender in it. It has to be LAVENDER ESSENTIAL OIL mixed about 1:16. (Half an ounce in 8 ounces of mineral oil or almond oil, or a quarter ounce in 4 oz, etc.) Real lavender essential oil is a very effective antifungal. > Coffee contains caffeine, which is a diuretic (as is HCTZ), and tends > to dehydrate you. When you get dehydrated, you're at risk for getting > constipated. I drank coffee even when I took HCTZ, before and now after I was taken off HCTZ. I like coffee too much, I have a cup or two at McDonald's, have instant Vietnamese Caphe Sua (Coffee with cream and sugar in powder form) which I also consume at home. Maybe I need to stop coffee intake to stop these muscle spams? I moved my bowels this morning but felt pain before I did and also before I urinated. > Did he say why he was hesitant? No, but I presume he thought I was only borderline and maybe did not really need it? Or maybe he was worried of the side effects? By consuming coffee I was overdosing on diuretics. > You won't get anything out of it. Most likely the attorney will get > you out of his office before he's heard much of your story. It's a > nonstarter. Whoever told you to consult an attorney was just plain > wrong. A guy at McDonald's suggested it, he had seen ad about Vioxx being misprescribed. > Assuming your toilet seat isn't visibly soiled with icky stuff, it > isn't likely to make you sick. Unless you have a lot of parties or > share a bathroom with a neighbor, you're probably immune to most of the > germs at your own house. That's a relief; I have no parties at my place. > First of all, your own semen isn't likely to make you sick. Second, > you apparently don't have a bacterial infection. You say you have jock [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > going to have to wash twice a day and apply the cream to all affected > areas for at least two weeks, maybe four. Well, i used to masturbate frequently until I stopped a few months ago; I only masturbate once every other day. Once I feel asleep on the toilet seat and woke up with a burning sensation with my penis still erect. I don't know whether it may have gotten caught between the toilet seat and the toilet. It hurt like hell. When I was urinating frequently while taking the diuretic, the penis's veins were purplish. I'm not circumcized anyway. Could it be residue of urine aggravated the skin, or from not washing more often after urinating? The local pharmacist yesterday informed me cream for athlete's foot can be used on the anus, rectum and other skin areas. > No. The muscle spasms can't be related to your jock itch or athlete's > foot. From lifting heavy crates, storage boxes, et al? > > Coffee contains caffeine, which is a diuretic (as is HCTZ), and tends > > to dehydrate you. When you get dehydrated, you're at risk for getting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > bowels this morning but felt pain before I did and also before I > urinated. There are a lot of possible causes of muscle spasms. Dehydration for example, and low potassium and low magnesium. You'll need to see your doctor. Nobody can effectively diagnose or treat you over the internet. > > Did he say why he was hesitant? > > No, but I presume he thought I was only borderline and maybe did not > really need it? > Or maybe he was worried of the side effects? I don't know. Why don't you make another appointment and ask him? You have a lot of health concerns, like your muscle spasms, that you really need to take up with your doctor. >By consuming coffee I was > overdosing on > diuretics. Well, probably you just weren't drinking enough water. The patient education guidelines for diuretics recommend counseling patients to drink about 2 liters of fluids a day, but telling them that caffeinated beverages like coffee, tea, and cola don't count, though decaffeinated coffee can be counted as fluid intake. > > First of all, your own semen isn't likely to make you sick. Second, > > you apparently don't have a bacterial infection. You say you have jock [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > skin, > or from not washing more often after urinating? I don't know, but *in general* you don't need to worry about a condition that has resolved, or an event that happened only once. > The local pharmacist yesterday informed me cream for athlete's foot > can be used > on the anus, rectum and other skin areas. He probably told you could use it on and around the anus, but I don't think he said you could use it inside your rectum. If he did say that, he misspoke; your rectum is inside your body. But like I said before, if you have diarrhea and an itchy anus, you may have something else going on, so the antifungal cream may not be particularly effective. > > No. The muscle spasms can't be related to your jock itch or athlete's > > foot. > From lifting heavy crates, storage boxes, et al? Yes of course. > There are a lot of possible causes of muscle spasms. Dehydration for > example, and low potassium and low magnesium. You'll need to see your > doctor. Nobody can effectively diagnose or treat you over the > internet. Right, could be due to sciatica from lifting boxes or sleeping on the floor. > I don't know. Why don't you make another appointment and ask him? You > have a lot of health concerns, like your muscle spasms, that you really > need to take up with your doctor. See above. > Well, probably you just weren't drinking enough water. The patient > education guidelines for diuretics recommend counseling patients to > drink about 2 liters of fluids a day, but telling them that caffeinated > beverages like coffee, tea, and cola don't count, though decaffeinated > coffee can be counted as fluid intake. Switched to decaf but still have spasms. Probably from sciatica... > He probably told you could use it on and around the anus, but I don't > think he said you could use it inside your rectum. If he did say that, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yes of course. I took a good hot shower today after about three weeks of not feeling like doing so. ???? Are you homeless? Try calcium/magnesium citrate for constipation. > Try calcium/magnesium citrate for constipation. I eat bananas, apples, tangerines, drink juices, herbal teas. Maybe decaf coffee is still my only nemesis. Think I may have sciatica. From either sleeping on the floor or lifting boxes so much last year... > I took a good hot shower today after > about three weeks > of not feeling like doing so. ???? > > Are you homeless? Not homeless. Just had no desire to shower for three years, the lousy way I've felt. Muscle spasms in my hamstring muscles, lower back (tail bone), maybe from lifting objects and taklng them downstairs down a flight of stairs that have only one railing on the left side going down (right side going up). The railing stops before the third last step. I used to sleep on the living room floor for at least three-four years. Maybe this has lead to the muscle spasms? Lately I've experienced them even when I walk. Could be improper shoes? I tried orthotic supports in the shoes and I have tried without them, same muscle spasms. I even feel them when I sit. Maybe sitting for lengthy periods causes spasms? At times down the side of my right leg. |
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