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DDT is good for you: enviro-whiners just need to take a class in science

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fresh~horses@despammed.com - 21 Dec 2005 08:36 GMT
>From a discussion on environmental pollutants and cancer.
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> There are better ideas out there. I wish the watermelon (green outside,
> red inside) enviro-whiners would take a few chemistry and toxicology
> and oncology classes, put down their prejudices, and just take a fresh
> look at the problem. There are interesting effects enough. There are
> even some industrial "villains" to be found, though they may be found
> making incandescent light bulbs and hydrogenated vegetable grease, not
> anything as pollitically inflammatory as DDT.

> I'm asking people to THINK.  Use the epidemiology. Ignore the
> witchhunters who are looking for anything to blame for their personal
> problems, even things that don't pan out statistically.

> Do it the other way, and you end up killing people out of political
> correctness.  We've killed far more people in our coal mines than would
> ever have died producing the same amount of nuclear power, and we pay
> for the pollution of fossil fuels again and again. All because of
> stupid and irrational fears of radition poisoning. And as for DDT, the
> general scarcity of THAT has probably killed more people in Africa in
> the last three decades of the 20th century than Hitler did in Europe,
> and all because of envirowhining. Thanks a lot for the 10 million extra
> dead child malaria victims, Ms. Carson.  If only you'd taken a moment
> to think of unintended consequences, those children would be alive.
> And, yes, finally DDT is making a comeback, albeit on different scales
> and with limited uses. But meanwhile, we lost whole generations---
> committed a near genocide by neglect-- and all because of fears of a
> silent spring, where we couldn't hear a few *&^%ing warblers. Argghh.

> SBH
H2-PV NOW - 21 Dec 2005 08:52 GMT
Bush Torture Chambers.

Here's proof:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/05/11/con05433.html
The Sky Is Brown Today, Winston
    Don't you just hate it when the Bush administration tells you
the sky is brown? Do they actually have the audacity to think we might
believe it without even checking it with our own eyes? With their
credibility? These days, with this administration, the answer is
unfortunately a big yes. That's the thing, though; the first time
they tell you the sky is brown, you're incredulous at the brazenness
of such a statement, one that is in such direct contradiction to the
facts and all observable reality:
   "Why, it's really blue isn't it? Isn't the sky blue?"
"No, no, actually it's quite brown. Didn't you hear? Don't
look. Just listen. Brown."
... For example, last week Bush said the U.S. does not use torture on
detainees. All he needed was a drum roll for the proper comedic effect.
The mountain of evidence to the contrary is well known to anyone with
even a shred of curiosity. But, sure enough, dozens of lying Bushies
soon crowded the airwaves in defense of the absurdity and their lying
hero. ...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17267965%5E663,00.html
Torture bunker busted
    IRAQ'S new security forces have been accused of routinely abusing
and torturing detainees the same way Saddam Hussein's brutal regime
did.
    The claims by Iraqi Government officials, human rights groups and
victims follow the discovery of more than 170 tortured and starving
prisoners in a locked Interior Ministry bunker beneath Baghdad.
    Many had been severely beaten. Some had been paralysed. Others had
skin peeled off their bodies.

MORE PROOF...

http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=8&theme=&usrsess=1&id=96418
Spain probes CIA's 'torture flights'
    Nov. 16. - Spain has launched a judicial inquiry into
allegations that CIA aircraft may have secretly used a Spanish airport
to transport terror suspects to clandestine interrogation camps, Mr
Jose Antonio Alonso, the interior minister, said today.
If the allegations proved true, Mr Alonso warned: "We would be
looking at extremely serious, intolerable acts that violate rules for
treating prisoners in a democratic society, and would demand a
government response that would affect bilateral ties."
    The dispute deals a blow to strained US-Spanish relations.
Spain's intelligence service knew that CIA planes were making
stopovers on Spanish soil and urged the American agency to stop the
flights, El Pais newspaper said today.

AND MORE PROOF...

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/13172860.htm
Editorials on U.S. use of torture

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=2&issue=20051115
The McCain Mutiny

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/248314_fisk15.html
Administration thinks abuse sounds better than torture

http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/11/15/437931a2cfc5a
More frightening than torture

> >From a discussion on environmental pollutants and cancer.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
> > SBH
 
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