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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Oct 2005 12:08 GMT
**All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
on-line event that will take place tomorrow from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

There will also be other guest experts participating to field
medical/nutrition questions.

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
TC - 26 Oct 2005 22:21 GMT
quack

> **All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
> on-line event that will take place tomorrow from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:
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> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Oct 2005 23:00 GMT
Even quacking participants are cordially invited :-)

> quack
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> > (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> > (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
montygram - 27 Oct 2005 06:25 GMT
If it's the usual, "saturated fat is bad," "lower your cholesterol,"
"eat more beans and fiber," "avoid salt," etc., don't bother.  I've
explained to the people here the kinds of shell games that need to be
played with the "studies' in order to generate these un-scientific
claims.  Talk about the biochemical reality, without accepting
everything uncritically, and then we can proceed.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Oct 2005 07:39 GMT
> If it's the usual, "saturated fat is bad," "lower your cholesterol,"
> "eat more beans and fiber," "avoid salt," etc., don't bother.  I've
> explained to the people here the kinds of shell games that need to be
> played with the "studies' in order to generate these un-scientific
> claims.  Talk about the biochemical reality, without accepting
> everything uncritically, and then we can proceed.

It remains my choice to stick with the truth. What is "usual" is often
not the truth.

The truth is simple.

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
maxlharris@gmail.com - 27 Oct 2005 19:16 GMT
It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
A.S.D.Low-Carb when he is to low carb like Usama bin Laden is to the
American way of life, is anyone's guess. I suspect he'd fare better in
alt.support.diet, where folks are a little more open to the same ole
same ole. Surely Chung, in posting to asdlc, has his own reward.

-Hollywood, whose favorite New Testament Bible section is the Sermon on
the Mount, as recounted by Matthew. In fact, my all time favorite piece
is...

Matthew 6:5-15
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have
their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when
ye pray, use not vain repetitions as the heathen do; for they think
that they shall be heard for their much speaking. But not ye therefore
like unto them; for your Father knowest what things ye have need of,
before ye ask him."

> If it's the usual, "saturated fat is bad," "lower your cholesterol,"
> "eat more beans and fiber," "avoid salt," etc., don't bother.  I've
> explained to the people here the kinds of shell games that need to be
> played with the "studies' in order to generate these un-scientific
> claims.  Talk about the biochemical reality, without accepting
> everything uncritically, and then we can proceed.
TC - 27 Oct 2005 19:35 GMT
> It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
> same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> like unto them; for your Father knowest what things ye have need of,
> before ye ask him."

Quack, the hypocrite, prays in these ngs so that he "may be seen of
men". And the heathen is also guilty of using vain repetitions so that
he shall be heard for his much speaking.

Quack is a vain person trying to appear to be better than others by
being closer to God than the rest of us. But his constant public
repetition of religious homilies clearly show his vanity, hipocracy and
heathenism and is seen by all for what it is.

TC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Oct 2005 01:38 GMT
> > It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
> > same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Quack, the hypocrite, prays in these ngs so that he "may be seen of
> men".

What you read here on USENET are posts and not prayers.

> And the heathen is also guilty of using vain repetitions so that
> he shall be heard for his much speaking.

What you read is not what you hear.

> Quack is a vain person trying to appear to be better than others by
> being closer to God than the rest of us.

Matthew 7

> But his constant public
> repetition of religious homilies clearly show his vanity, hipocracy and
> heathenism and is seen by all for what it is.

Those who are able to discern the truth... discern otherwise.

**All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
on-line event that will take place tomorrow from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

There will likely also be other invited guest experts participating to
field medical/nutrition questions.

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

TC - 31 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT
You are going to hell.

TC

> > > It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
> > > same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
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> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca - 31 Oct 2005 17:37 GMT
 >:-)

> You are going to hell.
>
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> > (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> > (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 01 Nov 2005 20:00 GMT
>> > It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
>> > same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
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> **All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
> on-line event that will take place tomorrow from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:

somehow I wouldn't call Atlanta "paradise"....by any stretch

Hawaii!!  maybe

> http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
>
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>
> Andrew
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Oct 2005 23:50 GMT
All fear and no substance since you are absent here in Paradise.  For
those who aren't fearful, join the on-line chat already in progress:

http://www.OurMableton.net/ParadiseChat

> It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan. Which is the
> same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> > claims.  Talk about the biochemical reality, without accepting
> > everything uncritically, and then we can proceed.
Bob (this one) - 28 Oct 2005 01:15 GMT
> All fear and no substance since you are absent here in Paradise.

Being absent is like not stepping in a cow pie. No fear. Plenty of
substance. Just don't want to spend a lot of time wiping it off.

Perhaps the Chungster missed this:
>> Matthew 6:5-15 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the
>> hypocrites are; for they love to pray standing in the synagogues
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> for your Father knowest what things ye have need of, before ye ask
>> him."

Pastorio

> For those who aren't fearful, join the on-line chat already in
> progress:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>>> reality, without accepting everything uncritically, and then we
>>> can proceed.
maxlharris@gmail.com - 28 Oct 2005 15:18 GMT
For some reason, the ones who pray (prey?) where they can be seen of
men, always do miss it. When you get deep into it, JC was pretty
likable. I blame St. Paul, but it must have been pretty rough being
epileptic in the first century.
-Hollywood
264/229/218

> Perhaps the Chungster missed this:
> >> Matthew 6:5-15 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> for your Father knowest what things ye have need of, before ye ask
> >> him."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Oct 2005 01:38 GMT
> > All fear and no substance since you are absent here in Paradise.
>
> Being absent is like not stepping in a cow pie.

Being absent after an invitation is like avoiding the light of day
because of photophobia (fear of light).

**All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
on-line event that will take place Thursday (11/03) from 6-7 pm EST in
Paradise:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

There will also likely be other invited guest experts participating to
field medical/nutrition questions.

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Bob (this one) - 31 Oct 2005 06:20 GMT
>>>All fear and no substance since you are absent here in Paradise.
>>
>>Being absent is like not stepping in a cow pie.
>
> Being absent after an invitation is like avoiding the light of day
> because of photophobia (fear of light).

Being absent from an egotist's masturbatory self-congratulations is
wise. Invitation or not.

But I truly love your assistance in vocabulary development. Bwah...

Pastorio
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Oct 2005 01:38 GMT
> It will more likely be the Chunginator's 2LB-OMER plan.

That would depend on the attendees.  If folks want to chat about the
2PD-OMER Approach, I would be more than happy to oblige.  

> Which is the
> same stuff, and you only get to eat 2 LBs. Why he posts to
> A.S.D.Low-Carb when he is to low carb like Usama bin Laden is to the
> American way of life, is anyone's guess.

Those who are failing to lose weight LCing simply dovetail their LC diet
with the 2PD-OMER Approach to succeed.

> I suspect he'd fare better in
> alt.support.diet, where folks are a little more open to the same ole
> same ole. Surely Chung, in posting to asdlc, has his own reward.

Simply an invitation for participants of asdlc to seize the opportunity
to chat about what interests them.

> -Hollywood, whose favorite New Testament Bible section is the Sermon on
> the Mount, as recounted by Matthew. In fact, my all time favorite piece
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> like unto them; for your Father knowest what things ye have need of,
> before ye ask him."

My personal favorite part of Lord Jesus' sermon is Matthew 7.

To bring this thread back on topic for USENET...

**All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
on-line event that will take place this Thursday (11/3) from 6-7 pm EST
in Paradise:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

There likely will also be other invited guest experts participating to
field medical/nutrition questions.

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

maxlharris@gmail.com - 31 Oct 2005 14:51 GMT
> > Matthew 6:5-15
> > "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> My personal favorite part of Lord Jesus' sermon is Matthew 7.

At the risk of getting in dutch with Matt 7, I think you are missing
the beam as well. If people are ready to quit on LC, they probably will
look for something else to do, and they will probably do it away from
the people in alt.SUPPORT.diet.LC. So, you're fishing where the well is
likely nearly dry.

The junk at the end of every post of yours, starting with "In the
Lord's service" is clearly at odds with JC's (both der Nazarene and der
Koenig) philosophy. Put it in the closet, like JC suggests. Also, I
wonder how .sig files jibe with the part about vain repetitions.
Verily, you have your reward, Chung.

-Hollywood, not religous, but amused to death by the false.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Oct 2005 15:00 GMT
maxlhar...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > Matthew 6:5-15
> > > "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> At the risk of getting in dutch with Matt 7, I think you are missing
> the beam as well.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others.

>If people are ready to quit on LC, they probably will
> look for something else to do, and they will probably do it away from
> the people in alt.SUPPORT.diet.LC.

Dovetailing is not quitting.

> So, you're fishing where the well is
> likely nearly dry.

In truth, there is no fishing here.

To redirect this thread back on-topic...

**All** USENET participants are cordially invited to the following
on-line chat this Thursday (11/03/05) from 6-7 pm.  The topic will be
medicine, diet, nutrition, health, wellness and other things that
interest may interest you:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
maxlharris@gmail.com - 01 Nov 2005 21:16 GMT
> It remains my choice to refrain from judging others.

I'm not a Christian, so I will judge. I judge you to have failed in
even this claim. Your very presence in asdlc is submitted as evidence.
You don't like LC. You judge, inherently, those on LC diets to be doing
things wrong, and thus junk the joint up with your tired 2PD-OMER
approach, which has as much science behind it as the belief that
haemoglobin is simply too complicated to have evolved gradually. I'm
not saying you have that goofy belief, but it's the scientific
equivalent of 2PD-OMER.

Take a step back Chung, judge yourself. Weigh against how JC would live
your life. Get back to us on the results. Or don't.

-Hollywood
dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca - 27 Oct 2005 16:00 GMT
 That would match with the quack moderator.

> Even quacking participants are cordially invited :-)
>
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> > > (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> > > (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
 
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