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Depression in night vs. day

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richardfangnail@excite.com - 24 Oct 2005 00:30 GMT
I tend to be more depressed in the night than day, and more in the
winter than in summer.  I suppose it's just human nature.  Maybe it's
because people tend to be alone during the night.  Perhaps the sun
dispenses something we're not aware of, that makes us feel healthy.

I also hate it when Daylight Savings Time ends (late October) and all
of a sudden it will get dark right at 5pm.  I hate it whether I'm
working or not, don't you?
FurPaw - 24 Oct 2005 00:51 GMT
> I tend to be more depressed in the night than day, and more in the
> winter than in summer.  I suppose it's just human nature.  Maybe it's
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> of a sudden it will get dark right at 5pm.  I hate it whether I'm
> working or not, don't you?

You might find information on Seasonal Affective Disorder useful.
 Here's are a couple of links:
http://www.nmha.org/infoctr/factsheets/27.cfm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/seasonalaffectivedisorder.html

FurPaw

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Bruce. - 24 Oct 2005 01:01 GMT
>I tend to be more depressed in the night than day, and more in the
> winter than in summer.  I suppose it's just human nature.

Yes, seasonal depression.  Very common.

> Maybe it's
> because people tend to be alone during the night.

More than alone at night.  Winter isolates most of us from each other for
months and months.  Outdoor activities cease.  We get less exercise too.

> Perhaps the sun
> dispenses something we're not aware of, that makes us feel healthy.

It's been well documented that sunlight does lots of things, including
increasing the brain serotonin levels which helps us feel better.  As far as
depression goes, winter is easily the hardest time of the year for all of
us.

That also explains why SAD lights are often used, especially in the winter,
to help improve depression symptoms.

> I also hate it when Daylight Savings Time ends (late October) and all
> of a sudden it will get dark right at 5pm.  I hate it whether I'm
> working or not, don't you?

Yes, me too.  I go from commuting in the daylight to rarely seeing the sun
during the week.

Winter sucks.

Bruce.
Jason - 24 Oct 2005 01:57 GMT
> >I tend to be more depressed in the night than day, and more in the
> > winter than in summer.  I suppose it's just human nature.
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>
> Bruce.

Bruce,
Great post. I know someone that suffers from it and has one of those SAD
lights. She says that it helps a lot. I believe she referred to it as
"Seasonal Effective Disorder" or something like that. The OP might want to
do a google search for Seasonal Effective Disorder"
Jason

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Bruce Chastain - 24 Oct 2005 13:52 GMT
> Bruce,
> Great post. I know someone that suffers from it and has one of those SAD
> lights. She says that it helps a lot. I believe she referred to it as
> "Seasonal Effective Disorder" or something like that. The OP might want to
> do a google search for Seasonal Effective Disorder"
> Jason

Yep.  I have one of those SAD lights and it seems to be affective during the
darktest parts of the winter.  It sure takes the edge off of suffering in a
pit otherwise.

Bruce.
richardfangnail@excite.com - 24 Oct 2005 20:32 GMT
Sometimes I feel like my vision is not as good at night as day.  I
think that's not a medical problem but a mood thing.

I feel worse during the cold than warm weather; again, just human
nature.  But I never thought about it until I was about 30.

> >I tend to be more depressed in the night than day, and more in the
> > winter than in summer.  I suppose it's just human nature.
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>
> Bruce.
Bruce. - 24 Oct 2005 23:03 GMT
> Sometimes I feel like my vision is not as good at night as day.  I
> think that's not a medical problem but a mood thing.

A mood thing is possible, but it may also be a physical thing.  At night the
light levels are lower and that makes it harder for the eye to focus easily.
Photographically speaking, it has to do with depth of field.  The focusing
part of our eye just has a work harder at low light levels.

> I feel worse during the cold than warm weather; again, just human
> nature.  But I never thought about it until I was about 30.

I used to joke that I liked winter more because it was easier to dress up
for the cold than dress down for the heat.  Wearing a jacket is legal but
going naked isn't. :-)

However, as I've gotten older I'm much more sensitive to the cold, and now I
hate winter with every fiber of my body, both because of the cold and
because of the mood changes.  Just as soon as I'm able, I'm moving to warmer
pastures.

Bruce.
Christopher J. Henrich - 25 Oct 2005 02:42 GMT
> > Sometimes I feel like my vision is not as good at night as day.  I
> > think that's not a medical problem but a mood thing.
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> Photographically speaking, it has to do with depth of field.  The focusing
> part of our eye just has a work harder at low light levels.

(This is meant to be a practical suggestion, not sarcasm) Consider
getting brighter lighting.

Umm.. Ceiling lamps sometimes have glass or plastic covers. These can
accumulate dust (not to mention dead flies), and the plastic ones can
darken over time.

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Cathy - 27 Oct 2005 03:10 GMT
Patty I don't care why you did it.  I agree with Bev.  I hope you have
more impulse control in the future than you did that day.  Until then,
I will stay away.
Patty Cake - 27 Oct 2005 23:47 GMT
Geez tough audience....  so much for my attempt at an apology.

How's this?..............   f.ck you all.

> Patty I don't care why you did it.  I agree with Bev.  I hope you have
> more impulse control in the future than you did that day.  Until then,
> I will stay away.
% - 27 Oct 2005 23:50 GMT
you're really doing well here aren't you

> Geez tough audience....  so much for my attempt at an apology.
>
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> > more impulse control in the future than you did that day.  Until then,
> > I will stay away.
Gravity - 28 Oct 2005 00:27 GMT
> Geez tough audience....  so much for my attempt at an apology.
>
> How's this?..............   f.ck you all.

this is my type of woman.  get em!

Gravity / village idiot
Patty Cake - 24 Oct 2005 01:17 GMT
I get depressed on Sundays.  I'm not sure if it because it is the day I do
the least activity, or that I'm dredding Monday.
Bruce. - 24 Oct 2005 01:24 GMT
>I get depressed on Sundays.  I'm not sure if it because it is the day I do
>the least activity, or that I'm dredding Monday.

In my case it's definitely dredding Mondays.  Sunday night is the transition
from the weekend to the work week.

Bruce.
Barry - 24 Oct 2005 01:58 GMT
I've had this thing a handful of times where I wake up from a nap and
the thought that some day I'll actually be dying seems unbelievably
horrible. Not that I like the thought any other time, but it's on a
whole other level. I don't recall how long it takes for the feeling to
pass, but I don't think it lasts too long. It's never happened in the
morning after a night's sleep. Maybe it's caused by a combination of
the stress of knowing that I shouldn't be sleeping and the lack of
light when my body's use to it, and having no faith that I'll go
painlessly even if I'm under hospital care. Thinking about it normally
just pisses me off, which I'm used to.
Twittering One - 25 Oct 2005 01:24 GMT
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% - 24 Oct 2005 01:57 GMT
> I get depressed on Sundays.  I'm not sure if it because it is the day I do
> the least activity, or that I'm dredding Monday.
>
> people who live in Rochester should be depressed
Patty Cake - 24 Oct 2005 02:11 GMT
>> I get depressed on Sundays.  I'm not sure if it because it is the day I
>> do
>> the least activity, or that I'm dredding Monday.
>>
>> people who live in Rochester should be depressed

I don't live in Rochester f.ck head, that's just my internet provider, I'm
thousands of miles away from there.  Nice try idiot.  Got anything better to
do than to try to analyze a persons IP address?
Cathy - 24 Oct 2005 02:58 GMT
No wonder I don't come here often.  People like Patty - they kill me
with their kindness.
Patty Cake - 25 Oct 2005 00:58 GMT
I'm sorry you had to read that, I was reacting to an idiot that was
bothering me with his presence.

> No wonder I don't come here often.  People like Patty - they kill me
> with their kindness.
 
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