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dgolley9@hotmail.com - 12 Oct 2005 18:07 GMT
       Many forms of healthcare have come along over the past century.
Some have produced significant results, while others have not.  I
would like to post my opinion on a branch of modern medicine that is
commonly criticized, chiropractic medicine.
       Chiropractors heal patients naturally by making spinal
adjustments to prevent disease or discomfort caused by nerve
interference.  Chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform
surgeries, however, they are comparable to medical doctors because of
the training that they go through and the importance of the work that
they do.
    Due to the intensive education and training a chiropractor goes
through, they are qualified to make delicate adjustments on patients.
Following an adjustment, a chiropractor may make suggestions on diet,
exercise, sleeping habits, as well as other lifestyle choices.  Before
a chiropractic adjustment, the doctor will always examine the
patient's X-rays to locate pinched nerves or to identify serious
nerve damage.
    In addition to the training chiropractors go through, they must also
have job skills that do not apply to textbook knowledge.  There are
many important requirements involved in being a Doctor of Chiropractic.
A chiropractor must always be aware of any health or movement changes
in current patients.  A chiropractor must also be sure that every step
of their work is done correctly, as any errors in diagnosis can be very
dangerous to the patient.
    Despite the schooling a chiropractor goes through, some people are
still skeptical about chiropractic care because they are not sure how
it helps. Chiropractic is all natural healing, with no unnecessary
drugs or risky surgeries.  Why put yourself or a loved one through
painful and unneccassary treatments?  Chiropractic is a proven form of
preventative healthcare, enabling the body to combat illness naturally.
Though chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform surgeries,
they can make referrals if the condition requires further medical
treatment.
    Now please understand, my intention is not to pursuade people to stop
visiting their family doctors.  I have great confidence in American
medicine and I am thankful for having medicine available to me.  I just
want to explain my point of view. As a person who has experienced the
healing power of chiropractic, I feel that I may have something to
offer those who have not.  Due to my experience, I have an aquired
faith in chiropractic.  I am currently studying to become a Doctor of
Chiropractic myself.  I hope to someday be able to help people the way
that I was once helped by chiropractic.
Robby - 12 Oct 2005 18:33 GMT
Here here. Ive been reading and studying about that, accupuncture and
natural medicine...I agree completely with your post.

R
Robert - 12 Oct 2005 20:37 GMT
> Here here. Ive been reading and studying about that, accupuncture and
> natural medicine...I agree completely with your post.
>
> R

Exactly what I am saying Dgolly. You already have one endorsement from a guy
who believes that bird flu is a medical scam.
Robby - 12 Oct 2005 18:33 GMT
Here here. Ive been reading and studying about that, accupuncture and
natural medicine...I agree completely with your post.

R
dcholiman@ev1.net - 12 Oct 2005 19:51 GMT
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In Texas law a chiropractor ("bone doctor") can call himself
"Doctor Slop" or "Doctor Death" or whatever, because he/she
is officially a DCA, meaning "Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine."
The better ones are combining bone adjustments with
nutrition adjustments.  And one must master biochemistry
in order to talk meaningfully about nutrients.
David H
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Robert - 12 Oct 2005 20:33 GMT
>         Many forms of healthcare have come along over the past century.
>  Some have produced significant results, while others have not.  I
> would like to post my opinion on a branch of modern medicine that is
> commonly criticized, chiropractic medicine.

Let's see why you are criticized.

>         Chiropractors heal patients naturally by making spinal
> adjustments to prevent disease or discomfort caused by nerve
> interference.  Chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform
> surgeries, however, they are comparable to medical doctors because of
> the training that they go through and the importance of the work that
> they do.

Can they treat hypertension without medicine and have it under control?

> Due to the intensive education and training a chiropractor goes
> through, they are qualified to make delicate adjustments on patients.
> Following an adjustment, a chiropractor may make suggestions on diet,
> exercise, sleeping habits, as well as other lifestyle choices.

Are they experts on delivering babies like one person here seems to imply.

 Before
> a chiropractic adjustment, the doctor will always examine the
> patient's X-rays to locate pinched nerves or to identify serious
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> drugs or risky surgeries.  Why put yourself or a loved one through
> painful and unneccassary treatments?
Your implication being that conventional medicine uses unnecessary drugs, as
only medical doctors can prescribe them, and they do unnecessary risky
surgeries also only performed by conventional medicine. That is a bold
statement to say that conventional medicine is unnecessary.
I can understand it because you want people to come to you and not go to
unnessary conventional doctors.

The market place and outcomes expectations are the ones the drive the people
to and from anything.

 Chiropractic is a proven form of
> preventative healthcare, enabling the body to combat illness naturally.
>  Though chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform surgeries,
> they can make referrals if the condition requires further medical
> treatment.

Why not go to a conventional doctor first and then go to a chiropractor?

> Now please understand, my intention is not to pursuade people to stop
> visiting their family doctors.

It most assuredly is. You started by saying the conventional medicine uses
unnessary medicine and surgeries. Please tell me when do doctors use
unnessary medicine?

Is there any way for alternatives to generate business without slamming
conventional medicine. I don't know of any so stop pretending.

I have great confidence in American
> medicine and I am thankful for having medicine available to me.  I just
> want to explain my point of view. As a person who has experienced the
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> Chiropractic myself.  I hope to someday be able to help people the way
> that I was once helped by chiropractic.

Let me help you out here. Try and have a positive attitude about your job
and not an inferiority complex. You say all the right words but you really
don't believe them.
If I were a chiropractor I would say that conventional medicine is great and
there are many things that can be done there but we also have a lot to
offer.
Just stop sounding like a Kevin T commercial about conventional medicine in
which people are not going to buy.
That's what turns off normal people and makes them suspicious about
chiropractors. The only people you will attract with that attitude are the
ones who already rub dead chickens on their backs to fight off disease.
Jeff - 13 Oct 2005 13:00 GMT
>        Many forms of healthcare have come along over the past century.
> Some have produced significant results, while others have not.  I
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> adjustments to prevent disease or discomfort caused by nerve
> interference.

Since when is manipulating the spine "natural?" Is it something that happens
in the wild? Do chimps do it? No, they are smart enough not to manipulate
the spine.

>  Chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform
> surgeries, however, they are comparable to medical doctors because of
> the training that they go through and the importance of the work that
> they do.

Reality check. Their training consists of three years of hocus-pocus
treatments that have been shown to work, except for some cases of back pain.
To say that chiropractors are comparable to physicians is an insult to
physisions.

> Due to the intensive education and training a chiropractor goes
> through, they are qualified to make delicate adjustments on patients.

Not really.

> Following an adjustment, a chiropractor may make suggestions on diet,
> exercise, sleeping habits, as well as other lifestyle choices.

Based on what evidence?

>  Before
> a chiropractic adjustment, the doctor will always examine the
> patient's X-rays to locate pinched nerves or to identify serious
> nerve damage.

Why? You can't see nerves on an X-Ray.

> In addition to the training chiropractors go through, they must also
> have job skills that do not apply to textbook knowledge.  There are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of their work is done correctly, as any errors in diagnosis can be very
> dangerous to the patient.

Actually, any chiropractic adjustments can be very dangerous. Several
patients have had strokes after neck manipulation.

> Despite the schooling a chiropractor goes through, some people are
> still skeptical about chiropractic care because they are not sure how
> it helps. Chiropractic is all natural healing, with no unnecessary
> drugs or risky surgeries.

And, except for back pain, no evidence that it works.

>  Why put yourself or a loved one through
> painful and unneccassary treatments?  Chiropractic is a proven form of
> preventative healthcare, enabling the body to combat illness naturally.

Except for back pain, it has not been proven to do squat. Except they do
wallet biopsies and wallet extractions.

> Though chiropractors do not prescribe medicine or perform surgeries,
> they can make referrals if the condition requires further medical
> treatment.

Better yet, go see a qualified physician in the first place.

> Now please understand, my intention is not to pursuade people to stop
> visiting their family doctors.  I have great confidence in American
> medicine and I am thankful for having medicine available to me.  I just
> want to explain my point of view. As a person who has experienced the
> healing power of chiropractic, I feel that I may have something to
> offer those who have not.

You have experienced the healing power of time and the placebo effect.

>  Due to my experience, I have an aquired
> faith in chiropractic.  I am currently studying to become a Doctor of
> Chiropractic myself.  I hope to someday be able to help people the way
> that I was once helped by chiropractic.

By taking their money?

Jeff
dgolley9@hotmail.com - 14 Oct 2005 05:13 GMT
Dear Jeff,
            Thanks for the reply, however, i dont feel that you
understand what chiropractic is all about.  Its not a conspiracy
designed to hurt you and take away all of your money.  I would just
like to address some of the responses that you had to my post.
           You started off with the point that chiropractors cannot
fix everything, and in no way do i disagree with you there.  I even
made a point to say how much faith i have in modern medicine and how
thankful i am to have it available to me.  You then went on to say that
X-rays are not important to chiropractors because you cannot see nerves
on an X-Ray.  This is true, but chiropractors can see subluxations of
the spine, which indicates nerve interference.
          I realize that you have probably never been to a
chiropractor, based on your replies, or perhaps have had a bad
experience with a "hack" chiropractor, but you cannot honestly say that
there arent any unqualified M.D.s out there practicing, it is
inevitable that some will slip through the cracks, it happens in every
profession.
         You then went on to say that chiropractic isnt natural
because monkeys dont do it??? You can hardly compare us to monkeys.  If
we were still living like monkeys then we wouldnt be so worried about
our health, and we might throw dung at each other over an arguement
like this.
         Even if you disregard everything else i have said, you cannot
deny me what i know of my personal healing experience.  You commented
that i experienced the healing power of "time and the placebo effect."
Well if that is the case then I sure am glad that I decided to get a
second opinion on the spinal surgery recommended by the emergency room
doc.  I am surely a lot better off now because i chose chiropractic
over surgery and my wallet is as well.
Robert - 15 Oct 2005 19:04 GMT
> Dear Jeff,
>              Thanks for the reply, however, i dont feel that you
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> doc.  I am surely a lot better off now because i chose chiropractic
> over surgery and my wallet is as well.

You threw the first stone. Don't throw stones in order to get business. You
are frustrated at why people don't go to chiropractors and in order to get
them there you started throwing stones at conventional medicine. Normal
rational people go to the doctor so you are throwing stones at them. You
will chase away normal rational people.
 
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