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Long-Term Use of Azithromycin as anti-inflammatory?
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MS - 17 Sep 2005 19:12 GMT In the following Medscape article, long-term use of the macrolide antibiotic azithromycin ("Zithromax") has been shown to have benefit in cystic fibrosis, in children and adults, with little negative side effects. Not used for its antibacterial properties, but for its anti-inflammatory properties, which it has been found to have.
Has this also been prescribed in such a manner for chronic sinusitis? I wonder if it could be helpful?
Finding a safe anti-inflammatory medication is a problem--as long-term usage of oral corticosteroids has harmful effects, and there are also negative effects from long-term NSAID usage.
I would guess that the azithromycin would lose its antibacterial effect if used regularly over a long period, as the bacteria would develop resistance to it. But if it remains effective as an anti-inflammatory, with little negative side effects--could be a good thing, no?
(Of course--one negative for people without health insurance--could get very expensive to use long term. With health insurance--would depend if the plan would cover it long term like that.)
Anyone reading has prescribed or been prescribed azithromycin long-term as an anti-inflammatory?
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/503819_3 (scroll down to see part about this med)
quote of part of article---------
Azithromycin Azithromycin is a macrolide commonly used for its antibacterial activity in both children and adults. It is approved for treatment of acute otitis media and community-acquired pneumonia in patients older than 6 months and for treatment of pharyngitis or tonsillitis in those aged 2 years or older.[77] Azithromycin has a long tissue half-life and accumulates in the sputum and lungs of treated patients.[78] The potential role of azithro-mycin in cystic fibrosis is extrapolated from experience with diffuse panbronchiolitis, a respiratory disease similar to cystic fibrosis. In patients with diffuse panbronchiolitis, long-term erythromycin therapy improved both symptoms and survival.[79, 80]
Azithromycin has been evaluated as a treatment option for patients with cystic fibrosis for its antiinflammatory properties.[81] The precise mechanism through which azithromycin exerts these effects has not been elucidated (Figure 2).[82-99] Antimicrobial classes typically used in the treatment of acute cystic fibrosis exacerbations, such as third-generation cephalosporins, amino-glycosides, and fluoroquinolones, do not appear to exert any significant direct antiinflammatory action and have not been included in this review.[100]
Figure 2. (click image to zoom) Proposed antiinflammatory mechanisms of macrolide antibiotics. The precise mechanism by which azithromycin mitigates inflammation is unknown, but it affects neutrophils through mediation of apoptosis, migration, chemotactic activity, and phagocytic function. Azithromycin is an indirect antioxidant and may prevent lung damage through this function. Therapy with this agent has inhibited production of nitric oxide, prostaglandin E2, and proinflammatory cytokines interleukin (IL)-8, IL-1?, and tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-?. Azithromycin may also downregulate growth-related oncogene-? as well as soluble vascular cell adhesion molecule (SVCAM)-1. Reduced sputum viscoelasticity and improved mucociliary and cough transportability of airway secretions has been noted. Antagonism of the virulence of Pseudomonas aeruginosa has been proposed as a mechanism, an effect mediated through a decrease in airway adherence, inhibition of production of various exoproducts, and interference with Pseudomonas mucoid-alginate biofilm formation. In addition, it may affect Pseudomonas aeruginosa's viability directly despite subinhibitory minimum inhibitory concentrations. Restoration of the cystic fibrosis transmembrane conductance regulator (CFTR) chloride channel is an additional possible mechanism. X = mitigation of adverse effect.[82-89]
Treatment with either erythromycin or clarithromycin has not been beneficial in cystic fibrosis.[101] Six trials have evaluated the effects of azithromycin in children and adults with cystic fibrosis ( Table 2 ).[102-107] Of the three randomized, placebo-controlled trials conducted, two involved patients younger than 18 years.[106, 107] Although a benefit with azithromycin was observed in both of these studies, the more recent one provides the most compelling evidence of therapeutic improvement.[107]
In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study involving 60 adults with cystic fibrosis, treatment with azithromycin led to an improvement in total quality of life (p=0.035), a reduction in antibiotic therapy associated with acute respiratory exacerbations (p < 0.037), and a slowed rate of decline in predicted FEV1 (p=0.047) and FVC (p=0.001).[105] This benefit was observed despite baseline patient characteristics indicating the treatment group had less lung function than the placebo group (mean FEV1 50.9% vs 62.3%, mean FVC 67.3% vs 77.5%). The treatment group also was shorter, on average, and weighed less than the placebo group. However, outcome changes in lung function were small, indicating maintenance rather than improvement.
In the first trial involving patients younger than 18 years with cystic fibrosis, pulmonary function was only modestly affected after a 6-month course of azithromycin.[106] This study-a 15-month, prospective, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial-included 41 children (18 boys, 23 girls) aged 8-18 years, with a median FEV1 of 61% (range 33-80%). A history of chronic P. aeruginosa colonization was not a specific entry criterion. Exclusion criteria were liver disease, hearing impairment, Burkholderia cepacia colonization, previous organ transplantation, treatment with macrolide antibiotics or oral corticosteroids for more than 14 days, or treatment with dornase alfa begun within 2 months of enrollment.
Azithromycin dosage was based on weight; patients weighing 40 kg or less received 250 mg once/day; those weighing more than 40 kg received 500 mg once/day. A clinically significant change in the primary outcome measure, FEV1, and the secondary outcome measures, FVC and FEF25-75, was defined as a change of more or less than 13%, 13%, and 20%, respectively. At every time point during treatment, mean FEV1, mean FVC, and mean FEF25-75 were higher in the azithromycin-treated patients than in the placebo patients. However, the median relative difference in predicted FEV1 between azithromycin and placebo was only 5.4% (p > 0.05). Improvement in FEV1 greater than 13% was noted in 13 of 41 patients, whereas deterioration of more than 13% was observed in five (p=0.059). The median relative difference in predicted FVC and FEF25-75 between the two groups was 3.9% and 11.4%, respectively (p > 0.05). The results of this study suggest that azithromycin treatment in children and adolescents may exert clinically important beneficial effects on pulmonary function in approximately 33% of patients but may result in worsening lung function in approximately 10-20% of patients.
Jeff - 18 Sep 2005 20:59 GMT > In the following Medscape article, long-term use of the macrolide > antibiotic [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Has this also been prescribed in such a manner for chronic sinusitis? I > wonder if it could be helpful? You are comparing apples and oranges. Chronic sinusitis is different in important ways from the chronic infections in cystic fibrosis.
You can go to scholar.google.com or www.pubmed.gov and do your own search using keywords like azithromycin and chronic sinusitis.
> Finding a safe anti-inflammatory medication is a problem--as long-term > usage > of oral corticosteroids has harmful effects, and there are also negative > effects from long-term NSAID usage. And there may be long-term problems from using azithromycin, as well. Considering the long-term problems of having cystic fibrosis vs. the risks from using azithromycin chronically, the benefits of azythromycin may outweigh the risks, while in chronic sinusitis, they may not.
It sounds like you need to find out what is causing your chronic sinusitis rather than treat the inflammation.
Jeff
MS - 19 Sep 2005 21:02 GMT f
> You are comparing apples and oranges. Chronic sinusitis is different in > important ways from the chronic infections in cystic fibrosis. Yes, they are two different diseases. But there are some connections. I have read they have found a similar gene connected to both diseases. Both involve chronic inflammation involving respiratory airways. But yes, not the same disease. I didn't imply they were. Just that on reading an article how a particular medication is used to control chronic inflammation in one disease, one wonders whether it could also be helpful for other chronic inflammatory diseases. Perhaps arthritis as well. I don't know, just wondering.
> You can go to scholar.google.com or www.pubmed.gov and do your own search > using keywords like azithromycin and chronic sinusitis. Well, I obviously did do some searching, which brought me to the article I posted from Medscape. (I forget which search terms I used, which brought me to that article.) Yes, I could do a search for the terms azithromycin and . I would probably come across results listing azithromycin as one of the antibiotics used in treating sinusitis. Not likely to find one on use as a long-term anti-inflammatory in chronic sinusitis, but I guess it's possible. Again, I was just speculating on a possible use, not positing that it is already used that way.
> > Finding a safe anti-inflammatory medication is a problem--as long-term > > usage [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from using azithromycin chronically, the benefits of azythromycin may > outweigh the risks, while in chronic sinusitis, they may not. Of course. All medications have side effects, and the doctor needs to weigh the benefits vs. risks in prescribing them. As I wrote though, anti-inflammatories in particular have serious problems with side effects, even the OTC ones. Would you consider long-term use of azythromycin to be more risky than long-term use of prednisone, for example? Or even long-term high dosages of ibuprofen? Yes, of course, risks and benefits always have to be weighed, when considering medications.
> It sounds like you need to find out what is causing your chronic sinusitis > rather than treat the inflammation. I've been doing that all my life. Sure I would prefer to cure it (by finding out the "cause", and changing that), than deal with symptoms. But unfortunately, there is no easy answer, as of yet certainly no cure. (Do you have chronic sinusitis, or do you treat it frequently as an ENT or allergist?) It is a far more serious and widespread disease than many people realize.
Woody Long - 24 Sep 2005 20:32 GMT > Of course. All medications have side effects, and the doctor needs to weigh > the benefits vs. risks in prescribing them. As I wrote though, > anti-inflammatories in particular have serious problems with side effects, > even the OTC ones. Would you consider long-term use of azythromycin to be > more risky than long-term use of prednisone, for example? Or even long-term > high dosages of ibuprofen? For long term use I would rate azithromycin as roughly 10x more harmful than prednisone (depending on the dose of each), with prednisone being again 10x more harmful than the maximum recommended dose of ibuprofen.
Unlike the others, ibuprofen will not worsen your underlying disease (although it may cause other problems)
Worst of all would be prednisone and azithromycin simultaneously - probably > 10x more dangerous than either one alone.
Woody
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 25 Sep 2005 02:06 GMT > For long term use I would rate azithromycin as roughly 10x more harmful > than prednisone (depending on the dose of each), And why is that?
MS - 26 Sep 2005 07:50 GMT > > For long term use I would rate azithromycin as roughly 10x more harmful > > than prednisone (depending on the dose of each), > > And why is that? He (Woody Long) does not reply, as to why he makes such a statement. I suspect he just made up those figures with no basis for them, with his statement about each being ten times more harmful than the next. (Quite convenient in our decimal system, no, that everything is "ten times more harmful"?)
Long term oral steroid usage, and long term high dosage NSAIDS usage, will have definite serious side effects to anyone so using them. It is possible that some people might have severe reactions to azithromycin, but I don't think most people do,
Well, Woody, if there is a basis for your statements, please elaborate.
Thank you.
Woody Long - 29 Sep 2005 22:23 GMT > > > For long term use I would rate azithromycin as roughly 10x more harmful > > > than prednisone (depending on the dose of each), [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > convenient in our decimal system, no, that everything is "ten times more > harmful"?) Notice I qualified my statement with "roughly" and "depending on the dose"
> Long term oral steroid usage, and long term high dosage NSAIDS usage, will > have definite serious side effects to anyone so using them. It is possible > that some people might have severe reactions to azithromycin, but I don't > think most people do, > > Well, Woody, if there is a basis for your statements, please elaborate. After only 10 days "C. albicans-colonized mice treated with each macrolide had highly significant increase in colony counts of C. albicans in their stools compared to C. albicans-colonized mice treated with saline only"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=12058726&query_hl=1
The increase in colony count will vary by individual but lets say it doubles after 10 days. Since organisms tend to grow exponentially, after 1 year (say 360 days) of continuous uninterrupted use, the fungal colony count could be as much as 2^36 higher or 68719476736.
This will make your underlying disease worse.
http://www.medicineatmichigan.org/magazine/2004/fall/huron/huron01.asp
And while you may not notice a modest 2 fold fungal colony count increase you are very likely to notice a 68719476736-fold increase.
Therefore, I would not touch the stuff if I were you, but I realize you will probably ignore this advice regardless.
If you do decide to take it long term, best of luck to you, and please report back as to how sick you are or are not after 1 year of use.
Woody
> Thank you. MS - 02 Oct 2005 18:58 GMT > And while you may not notice a modest 2 fold fungal colony count > increase you are very likely to notice a 68719476736-fold increase. Are you saying that use of azithromycin increases fungi in the body? Would you say that is true for all antibiotics in general? All macrolides?
> Therefore, I would not touch the stuff if I were you, but I realize you > will probably ignore this advice regardless. > > If you do decide to take it long term, best of luck to you, and please > report back as to how sick you are or are not after 1 year of use. I wouldn't be in the position to make such a decision. This medication is not available OTC, I cannot just decide to start taking it long-term. After reading about it being prescribed long-term as an anti-inflammatory for cystic fibrosis, I was only speculating whether it might be useful as an anti-inflammatory for other conditions as well.
When you write "I would not touch the stuff", are you saying that you never take an antibiotic, or that you would never take azithromycin, or any macrolides, not even short-term?
Woody Long - 04 Oct 2005 23:05 GMT > Are you saying that use of azithromycin increases fungi in the body? Would > you say that is true for all antibiotics in general? All macrolides? Yes it seems all antibiotics have the potential to increase fungi in the body. However, it appears that some have a greater potential than others (e.g macrolides appear to be worse than penicillin)
> > Therefore, I would not touch the stuff if I were you, but I realize you > > will probably ignore this advice regardless. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > take an antibiotic, or that you would never take azithromycin, or any > macrolides, not even short-term? I would take an antibiotic (including a macrolide) short term, if I needed it, like for a gunshot wound in the leg that got infected with flesh eating bacteria, syphilis, anthrax, or something like that. I would take the best antibiotic for whatever type of infection I had. Usually only a short course of a few weeks or less is needed even for very severe infections, when such infections are actually caused by bacteria.
What I would not do is take an antibiotic for something not imminently life threatening, or use it as an anti-inflammatory.
The fact that antibiotics act as anti-inflammatory is interesting because it means that just because you take it and feel better, you CANNOT assume that bacteria were contributing to your symptoms.
Woody
Woody Long - 04 Oct 2005 23:05 GMT > Are you saying that use of azithromycin increases fungi in the body? Would > you say that is true for all antibiotics in general? All macrolides? Yes it seems all antibiotics have the potential to increase fungi in the body. However, it appears that some have a greater potential than others (e.g macrolides appear to be worse than penicillin)
> > Therefore, I would not touch the stuff if I were you, but I realize you > > will probably ignore this advice regardless. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > take an antibiotic, or that you would never take azithromycin, or any > macrolides, not even short-term? I would take an antibiotic (including a macrolide) short term, if I needed it, like for a gunshot wound in the leg that got infected with flesh eating bacteria, syphilis, anthrax, or something like that. I would take the best antibiotic for whatever type of infection I had. Usually only a short course of a few weeks or less is needed even for very severe infections, when such infections are actually caused by bacteria.
What I would not do is take an antibiotic for something not imminently life threatening, or use it as an anti-inflammatory.
The fact that antibiotics act as anti-inflammatory is interesting because it means that just because you take it and feel better, you CANNOT assume that bacteria were contributing to your symptoms.
Woody
Woody Long - 24 Sep 2005 20:32 GMT > Of course. All medications have side effects, and the doctor needs to weigh > the benefits vs. risks in prescribing them. As I wrote though, > anti-inflammatories in particular have serious problems with side effects, > even the OTC ones. Would you consider long-term use of azythromycin to be > more risky than long-term use of prednisone, for example? Or even long-term > high dosages of ibuprofen? For long term use I would rate azithromycin as roughly 10x more harmful than prednisone (depending on the dose of each), with prednisone being again 10x more harmful than the maximum recommended dose of ibuprofen.
Unlike the others, ibuprofen will not worsen your underlying disease (although it may cause other problems)
Worst of all would be prednisone and azithromycin simultaneously - probably > 10x more dangerous than either one alone.
Woody
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