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Out of State Physicians Denied Entry - No License To Practice in Louisi
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Nomen Nescio - 13 Sep 2005 21:30 GMT A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the first week after the hurricane. Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco (D) denied them entry because they didn't have a license to practice medicine in Louisiana.
George Kerby - 14 Sep 2005 01:00 GMT On 9/13/05 3:30 PM, in article daceec6aed159f74266480df81befcf6@dizum.com,
> A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from > out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the > first week after the hurricane. Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco (D) > denied them entry because they didn't have a license to practice medicine > in Louisiana. Not surprising. Typical of the govt of that backwards state.
Edd Benson - 29 Sep 2005 14:38 GMT > On 9/13/05 3:30 PM, in article daceec6aed159f74266480df81befcf6@dizum.com, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Not surprising. Typical of the govt of that backwards state. what is less surprising is that one from the state of Texas, who considers hearsy absolute truth. Another knotch on the bedpost of Mr. Bush.....
So much rumor and hearsy is still flying around...decisions being made on such bullshit is just plain f.cked up....
course, as long as it makes more money for Texas.......sheesh...
Jack Zwick - 14 Sep 2005 02:13 GMT > A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from > out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the > first week after the hurricane. Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco (D) > denied them entry because they didn't have a license to practice medicine > in Louisiana. The La. Governor waived all that today. and expedited licensing is now in place for La. doctors that are currently in Texas.
dhm@best.com - 14 Sep 2005 12:47 GMT >> A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from >> out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The La. Governor waived all that today. and expedited licensing is now > in place for La. doctors that are currently in Texas. The question is how many people she murdered by obstructing their entry.
Edd Benson - 01 Oct 2005 00:53 GMT >>> A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from >>> out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The question is how many people she murdered by obstructing their entry. NO, THE QUESTION IS, DID THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN, OR IS IT JUST ANOTHER URBAN LEGEND THAT SO MANY ARE BEING GENERATED OVER THIS.
I've yet to see any substantiation of this claim. someone writes that a new orleans doctor<if he was in fact a doctor, and if he is in fact was from new orleans> TOLD them about a story, which from this statement becomes totally unclear as to if this supposed doctor SAW about a hundred doctors<and what do about 100 doctors look like to this individual>, or did he HEAR this from yet another party, etc., etc., etc.....
too much bullshit, not enough fact....
without being able to substantiate your claim, you have no claim....PERIOD!!!
Steven (remove wax and invalid for reply) - 01 Oct 2005 06:34 GMT >>>> A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from >>>> out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > without being able to substantiate your claim, you have no > claim....PERIOD!!! I agree. Even if the story was being spread by a doctor, it reeks of urban legend.
Like the 200 people killed in the Superdome. The National Guard went there with a refrigerator truck and 200 body bags. Found 6 bodies. 4 died of natural causes (heat, or possibly ill when brought inside), one of a drug overdose, one brought there already.
 Signature Steven
"My biggest mistake was not recognizing by Saturday that Louisiana was dysfunctional." -- former FEMA director Michael Brown, September 27, 2005
goodlife1@netzero.com - 15 Sep 2005 03:09 GMT Hurricanes do not sneak up on people. Unlike tornadoes, hurricanes don't just reach down out of the dark storm clouds to wreak havoc on humanity. Hurricanes are tracked, named, have warning flags dedicated to them, and all coastal cities have long-standing plans for dealing with them. Nearly everyone in the world knew Katrina was going to hit Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, and yet so many have died in New Orleans. Why?
Hurricane Katrina struck the tip of southern Florida as a category 1 hurricane and made a beeline for the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico. For three days Katrina churned her way across the Gulf, growing in size and strength until it was a monster storm. With sustained winds of over 175 mph, Katrina bore down on the city of New Orleans. Literally, at the last possible moment, Katrina was pushed, ever-so-slightly, by dry air from the Midwest, off to the East and dropped from a category 5 to a high category 4 with sustained winds of 150 mph. Katrina was still a killer storm by anyone's description. For three long days, the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans watched Katrina bear down on their state and city respectively but took very little action to protect their citizens other than to state the obvious: "Leave town." No assistance was offered to the poor or elderly.
Aerial views of New Orleans have shown pictures of hundreds of buses, left parked and unused. Why didn't the mayor of New Orleans activate those buses to move the people out of the city those who wanted to leave but had no way out? Why was this golden opportunity to save lives left parked, only to be lost to the floodwaters? This from the Louisiana disaster plan, pg. 13, paragraph 5, dated 01/00: "The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'..." Why was the city's own disaster plan for using those buses to evacuate people not implemented? Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin had three days to evacuate the poor and elderly from New Orleans but they did not. Why?
While the governors of both Mississippi and Alabama put in a formal request for federal assistance before Katrina even made landfall, the governor of Louisiana refused to relinquish any of her power for the good of the people. Now she and her party point the finger of blame at the White House.
The Department of Homeland Security can only work with the state and local officials in organizing relief efforts such as food, water, and shelter. There is no military arm of the Department of Homeland Security or the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and the military is what was needed and everyone knew that.
Instead of asking why the Democratic leaders of Louisiana failed the people, these sites post disgusting pictures of floating bodies with the message: "George Bush did nothing." The truth is, the Democratic governor wouldn't allow Bush to do anything. That floating body belongs to Governor Blanco. She is the one who "did nothing."
Roving bands of violent criminals quickly took control of the streets. While Mayor Nagin did declare martial law, it was a toothless declaration. The New Orleans police department was instantly overwhelmed. Many policemen just threw up their hands and walked off the job. Some joined the looters and were videotaped by MSNBC "looting" in the local Walmart. The handful that was left on the job did their best but the best they could do was try to stay alive in a now lawless and dying city.
Because there was no one in charge, the initial rescue operations were feeble at best and there was chaos. The scope and magnitude of the disaster, which covers an area the size of Great Britain, still had not been realized by Louisiana's Democratic elected Governor Blanco who steadfastly refused to declare martial law and officially request that the federal government "send in the troops."
On Friday, September 2, the president of the United States was forced to "negotiate" with Governor Blanco for the lives of the suffering and dying people of New Orleans. She feared that allowing the federal government to take control would make her administration appear as though it had failed. How she would be judged was more important to her than the lives of those people who were dying in the squalor.
How many died as Blanco maneuvered to protect her reputation?
The Posse Comitatus Act prevents, by federal law, the president of the United States from sending federal troops into any state without the direct request of the elected governor of that state. A frustrated President Bush could only stand by and watch as the horror unfolded until he received the request for help. Despite the finger-pointing at President Bush, there was little that he could do until he was formally asked for assistance. No matter how loudly the liberals scream, they know full well that the president was helpless to do much of anything.
As the death toll rose and the animalistic behavior of some of those who chose to remain within the city became public knowledge, it was obvious that authorities needed to regain control. As the scenes from New Orleans, now a national disgrace, were being beamed around the world, a shameless Democrat Governor Blanco only cared about her own political image.
There is reason to believe that President Bush, running out of patience with Blanco by Saturday morning, used the only option that remained to him. It is being reported that Bush went around Blanco and utilized the Insurrection Act to federalize the National Guard and send in active military troops to take over the rescue and put down the lawlessness that had taken over New Orleans. The forces that Bush had poised to move into the city, swung into action. It was no accident that the major, organized rescues began when the sun came up on Saturday morning. At 6:30 AM, when the sky over New Orleans was suddenly filled with military helicopters and military convoys poured into the streets, they were there because of President Bush, not Governor Blanco.
The largest military evacuation the world has ever seen moved with the precision and efficiency that is only seen within the military. With men like Lt. General Russel Honore, 1st Army Commander and Army Brigadier General Mark Graham in charge, law and order was quickly restored, and an endless line of helicopters and boats began removing the stranded people and taking them out of the hell-hole called New Orleans. Those forces were ready to act because the President of the United States had positioned them to be ready.
Everyone demands answers and everyone wants to put the blame for this catastrophe on someone. The most convenient person to blame is President Bush. In truth, he is the least responsible on the local level. While the liberals feel this is the perfect time to make political hay because so many African-Americans are involved, the first line of defense for those people, the Democrat Mayor of New Orleans, and Democrat Governor of Louisiana, are the leaders that failed them. The people of New Orleans were abandoned by an arrogant democrat governor and a hapless democrat mayor as both struggled to save their own political careers. But, because they are both Democrats, the leftists want these ineffective leaders seen as helpless victims of a thoughtless and racist Bush who ignored their repeated pleas for help.
Mayor Ray Nagin has been reduced to babbling about how the CIA is out to kill him because he "spoke his mind," and Governor Blanco has become the invisible woman hoping that no one will notice that her gross incompetence and arrogance cost lives. But the left marches on, blaming President Bush because it knows it can. Most Americans are not aware of the laws preventing the federal government from "taking over" a city or a state.
The Democrats have closed ranks around their incompetent members and blame the president who was forced to "deal" with an inept governor. Governor Blanco's thanks is to point the finger of blame back at the president when she knows the fault is her own.
The Democratic Party could not possibly sink much lower than it has this past week. The mayor, the governor, and all those liberal shrieking leftist politicians should jump into the sewer water that now flows in the streets of
New Orleans. That's where they belong, with the rest of the floating waste. The Democratic or "Progressive" Party should be buried with the dead. Cause of death:
Gross incompetence, asphyxiation from lies, and the failure to accept responsibility for the deaths of thousands of American citizens because power meant more to them than lives. Reply With Quote
Bo Raxo wrote:
> > Darkwing (Badass) wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > and you forgot to add: made FEMA a cabinet-level agency, with a boss that > had experience running a government emergency management agency.
> A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from > out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the > first week after the hurricane. Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco (D) > denied them entry because they didn't have a license to practice medicine > in Louisiana. MudbugJoe - 15 Sep 2005 08:21 GMT > Hurricanes do not sneak up on people. Unlike tornadoes, hurricanes > don't just reach down out of the dark storm clouds to wreak havoc on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, and yet so many have died in New > Orleans. Why? What a load of horseshit! What part of the city were you working in, as a uniformed officer or a volunter worker, after the storm, to have gathered so much evidence?
My bet is that you represent some form of the media, possibly the AP, CNN, ect, just spreading the filth that you hear others spew, purely for the sake of creating more havoc.
Go sit down my friend. You weren't here. You will never really know!
wrcowan1@hal-pc.org - 17 Sep 2005 04:55 GMT >>Hurricanes do not sneak up on people. Unlike tornadoes, hurricanes >>don't just reach down out of the dark storm clouds to wreak havoc on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Go sit down my friend. You weren't here. You will never really know! Were you there as a "uniformed officer or a volunter worker"? If so, could you please tell us your experience there.
What parts of the post did you object to? Was it the description of the responsibility that local officals had in evacuating people that they did not implement? Was it the lack of response that state and local officials gave tothose who were stranded? Was it the description of the behavior of people during and after the storm that you object being reported?
Please provide us with some detail to as what you found to by BS and how you know it is. Also please tell us of your experience if you were there.
MRC
Kurtz - 18 Sep 2005 05:37 GMT > >>Hurricanes do not sneak up on people. Unlike tornadoes, hurricanes > >>don't just reach down out of the dark storm clouds to wreak havoc on [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > MRC You first............
Edd Benson - 20 Sep 2005 02:10 GMT SNIP-----------------------
>> My bet is that you represent some form of the media, possibly the AP, CNN, >> ect, just spreading the filth that you hear others spew, purely for the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Please provide us with some detail to as what you found to by BS and how >you know it is. Also please tell us of your experience if you were there. I was there until Tuesday. I sat through the entire storm. Why did people die. That question is not so hard to answer...Bush cut funding to inspect the levee system around New Orleans by 2/3s to go start a war that is fast becoming another Viet Nam. If the inspectors hadn't been put out to pasture, the levee system would not have been in disrepair. No matter to Bush, as long as he can funnel as much of the federal funding to Texas companies like Haliburton. This will insure that after his presidency, he can live like a king, because surely he won't risk leaving the US ever again because of the risk of being arrested, charged, and possibly executed as a war criminal.
Kurtz - 20 Sep 2005 04:43 GMT > SNIP----------------------- > >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > won't risk leaving the US ever again because of the risk of being > arrested, charged, and possibly executed as a war criminal. Thank you, sir. Please continue speaking truth to power, and please continue kicking fascist in the nuts.
Mike Smith - 20 Sep 2005 09:26 GMT >>Please provide us with some detail to as what you found to by BS and how >>you know it is. Also please tell us of your experience if you were there. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >to inspect the levee system around New Orleans by 2/3s to go start a >war that is fast becoming another Viet Nam. Thanks for posting this. It immediately lets everyone know you're a barking moonbat, who's just too stupid to be taken seriously.
<snipped the rest of his mindless rant>
Mike Smith "For me, voting Democratic has always been a no-brainer" K.E. Semmel, Washington Post,Sunday, September 18, 2005; Page B03
Why am I not surprised....
Kurtz - 21 Sep 2005 10:03 GMT > >>Please provide us with some detail to as what you found to by BS and how > >>you know it is. Also please tell us of your experience if you were there. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks for posting this. It immediately lets everyone know you're a > barking moonbat, who's just too stupid to be taken seriously. No, you asked him to provide detail, and he did. You asked him to substantiate his statement with evidence, and he obliged you.You asked him to describe his experiences, and he replied to you.
And then you reply with an ad hominem attack. An Ad Hominem is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact or slander directed towards the person presenting the claim or argument.
You have proven, again and again, that you lack the skills to counter a cognitive argument. You can not even summon up the necessary intellectual skills to engage in an exchange of opinions.
According to cognitive dissonance theory, individuals seek consistency among their cognitions (i.e., beliefs, opinions). When there is an inconsistency between those beliefs and reality, the resulting confusion can result in a debilitating mental illness leading to inapproriate and aggressive behavior.
Your blind brand-loyal embrace of a duplicitous cabal of neo-fascists would suggest that you are ignorant and uninformed enough to accept the Big Lie as fact. Your willing allegiance to a junta that is diametrically appossed to you and your family's self-interest and self-preservation is a suicidal act of masochistic stupidity.
As events unfold, and the present mis-administration is slowly disemboweled by the real journalists and the last of the uncorrupted courts, I can expect that you will descend into the anger and irrational behaviors that a casual lurker would categorize as madness. I will know that it is the clash of your twisted internal world and cold, hard reality.
Cognitive dissonance in action. You chose your own unreality, and now it is becoming painful to observe the disintegration of your own toxic and unsustainable Fourth Reich.
Enjoy the Deathcult E-ticket ride, and please keep your poisoned brain inside of your skull at all times.......
> <snipped the rest of his mindless rant> You slung your feces and ran to the back of your cage. Truly, an insane lesser ape.
> Mike Smith, Insane Fascist
> Why am I not surprised.... Because you are self-deluded.
Mike Smith - 17 Sep 2005 11:33 GMT >> Hurricanes do not sneak up on people. Unlike tornadoes, hurricanes >> don't just reach down out of the dark storm clouds to wreak havoc on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Go sit down my friend. You weren't here. You will never really know! Are you stupid? Did you just move down from the North? Is this your 1st hurricane/tropical storm?
Dude, you appear to be a moron that simply does not understand what you're attempting to comment on.
Mike Smith
Edd Benson - 29 Sep 2005 14:29 GMT > A New Orleans doctor told me that about a hundred doctors from > out-of-state were holed up at an airport outside Louisiana during the > first week after the hurricane. Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco (D) > denied them entry because they didn't have a license to practice medicine > in Louisiana. hearsy
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