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The "good" medical profession again, which leaves 45 old people to die in New Orleans

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Barbara Schwarz - 13 Sep 2005 17:00 GMT
The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
their care.

http://news.google.com/news?q=memorial%20hospital%2BNew%20Orleans&hl=en&lr=&sa=N
&tab=wn


Barbara Schwarz
dcholiman@ev1.net - 13 Sep 2005 19:43 GMT
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They were more likely senile and being kept alive
with feeding tubes.  They probably did not even know
what was going on.  The staff perhaps figured it was
better for them to die in situ rather than to be wheeled over
to Thunderdome.
David H
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Robert - 13 Sep 2005 21:50 GMT
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> They were more likely senile and being kept alive
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> David H
> ~~~~~~~~~~~

Try reading the source of the article.
Robert - 13 Sep 2005 21:50 GMT
> The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
> their care.

http://news.google.com/news?q=memorial%20hospital%2BNew%20Orleans&hl=en&lr=&sa=N
&tab=wn


> Barbara Schwarz

Where does it say that there?

Hospital officials said that at least some of the victims had died while
waiting to be evacuated in the four days after the hurricane struck, with
the electricity out and temperatures rising to over 100.

Steven L. Campanini, a spokesman for the hospital's owner, Tenet Healthcare,
said the dead included not only patients who died while awaiting evacuation,
but also people who died before the hurricane struck. The dead may also have
included evacuees from other hospitals and from the surrounding neighborhood
who gathered at Memorial Medical Center for shelter or safety to wait
evacuation from the city.
NRen2k5 - 14 Sep 2005 08:44 GMT
>The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
>Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Barbara Schwarz

Poor Bar, posting articles again without reading them...

From the article:

"Hospital officials said that at least some of the victims had died while waiting to be evacuated in the four days after the hurricane struck, with the electricity out and temperatures rising to over 100."

"Steven L. Campanini, a spokesman for the hospital's owner, Tenet Healthcare, said the dead included not only patients who died while awaiting evacuation, but also people who died before the hurricane struck." (So that count of 45 includes whatever bodies were in the morgue at the time as well.)

Sorry to burst your bubble, Barb. Now go get a f.cking job.

- NRen2k5
Barbara Schwarz - 14 Sep 2005 21:01 GMT
> >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Poor Bar, posting articles again without reading them...

I read them, medical troll. Lies by medical agent on Usenet or
justifying their crimes doesn't impress me much. The criminal
investigation will likely reveal more details.

> From the article:
>
> "Hospital officials said that at least some of the victims had died while waiting to be evacuated in the four days after the hurricane >struck, with the electricity out and temperatures rising to over 100."

Why did they not drive them to a save place while it was till time?
Before the hurricane hit?

> "Steven L. Campanini, a spokesman for the hospital's owner, Tenet Healthcare, said the dead included not only patients who died while awaiting evacuation, but also people who died before the hurricane struck." (So that count of 45 includes whatever bodies were in the morgue at the time as well.)

Yeah right, now they are lying that they just neglected and failed to
get the people out in time. Strange is also why almost 50 people are
dead in that home for old people before the hurricane struck. That does
not make that place less spooky or criminal.

> Sorry to burst your bubble, Barb. Now go get a f.cking job.

You get a character and an IQ, as you are missing both  of it. Try also
to get a better language.

Tilman Joerg Hausherr from Berlin, Germany (hired by Siemens and
married to Ilse) is an anti-religious harasser, a defamer. He is pro
Eugenics, defends psychiatrists who sexually or otherwise abused
patients, is a German governmental agent and wants to hurt American
tourism.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser2.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser3.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser4.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/whistle/cwletters/cw2.html
Tilman Hausherr posted approx. 24000 aniti-religious hate messages on
Usenet and his thinking is compared to that of Hitler
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
Tilman Hausherr is cold, cruel, fanatic and unprofessional
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Tilman+Hausherr&btnG=Google+Sea
rch&domains=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM&sitesearch=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM

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About OPC agent Tilman Hausherr and his company Siemens which made and
delivered WMD to Saddam and covered it up:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/7d8ffac20e4dd58
1?dmode=source&hl=en

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Wikipedia founder Jim Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales was the owner/ CEO of porn
search engine Bomis.com. That may also explain why Wikipedia is such a
libel machine in which "contributor" gangs, as the one supporting
Tilman Hausherr or Marty Sharp of Chillicothe, MO 64601 libel good
people.  Sharp lives at home with his dad and stole the ID's of
following people and forged following on his websites:
Marty Rathbun, Patrick Michael Sullivan, Tina Phillips, Joel Phillips,
and myself. He claimed also to be David K. Osgood, whose brother is a
former governmental attorney. It is called ID theft. Sharp posts with
"Anus Simkatu" (Yuk!) on Usenet and stole the ID "Vivaldi" to spread
lies about me on Wikipedia.
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http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/e5b26534ed8f4b18?hl=en&
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=wikipedia%20sucks!&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg
Hausherr cites Ingo Heinemann (who is pro degrogramming) as "credible"
and not criminal source.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Ingo+Heinemann%2Bbarbara+Schwarz&start=0&scori
ng=d&hl=en&lr=&safe=active&num=30
&
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Interesting websites:
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/index.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/medianews/index.html
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/whistle/cwletters/cw2.html
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/sitemap.htm
http://www.cchr.org
http://datafilter.com/mc
http://freespeechstore.com
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/amoj/00index.cfm
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Robert - 14 Sep 2005 21:09 GMT
> > >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> > >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> justifying their crimes doesn't impress me much. The criminal
> investigation will likely reveal more details.

You really have trouble confusing the hospital in which the article is
dealing with and the rest home.

> > From the article:
> >
> > "Hospital officials said that at least some of the victims had died while waiting to be evacuated in the four days after the hurricane >struck,
with the electricity out and temperatures rising to over 100."

> Why did they not drive them to a save place while it was till time?
> Before the hurricane hit?

You are really confused.
Barbara Schwarz - 14 Sep 2005 21:54 GMT
> > > >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> > > >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> You are really confused.

That is what all the psychs troll lie. Heckle yourself, retard.

Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz - 14 Sep 2005 21:58 GMT
http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/091405kvueNursinghome-eh.57d0dfa3.html

Here is the latest. Medical alleged professional did not understand
that they had to evacuate the old people in their wheel chairs. Yeah
right, they are nothing but killers. I assume they had too much work
with them and thought that this Hurricane is just what they needed to
get rid of the people.

Barbara Schwarz
Robert - 14 Sep 2005 22:06 GMT
> > > > >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> > > > >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals or in
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Barbara Schwarz

You are referring to the nursing home case and you then pull a citation from
the hospital a different situation all together.
Learn to read please. Modify your header idiot.
Barbara Schwarz - 14 Sep 2005 22:11 GMT
> > > > > >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> > > > > >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> the hospital a different situation all together.
> Learn to read please. Modify your header idiot.

Plonk, for nasty retard and psych troll "Robert". There is no need for
me to serve you.  

Barbara Schwarz
Robert - 14 Sep 2005 23:29 GMT
> > > > > > >The "good" medical profession leaves 45 old people to die in New
> > > > > > >Orleans. How gruesome. Now imagine to be operated by such animals
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> Barbara Schwarz

If there is anyone here trolling it's your you and your idiotic header on
this post.
Learn how to read and stop trolling.
Bozo Schwarz the Clown - 15 Sep 2005 02:11 GMT
**DUMBASS ALERT***DUMBASS ALERT ***DUMBASS ALERT*** DUMBASS ALERT***

The preceding post is from Barbara Schwarz, a bed-wetting German
nutcase and convicted criminal living in the U.S. as an illegal
immigrant and who is an infamous delusional schizophrenic who starves
for the attention she gets when she posts angry, hostile accusations,
lies and insults of others she does not like.

To prove just how crazy this 49-year old lunatic (who is mentally
incapable of holding a job, has to be financially supported by her
family, and spends 7 days a week using library computers) is....she has
filed FOIA requests seeking information on an underwater submarine
village where the inhabitants never age in the Great Salt Lake
(max.depth 40 feet).

This kook also claims she is a granddaughter of the late Dwight D.
Eisenhower, that his wife Mamie was a CIA mole, and that she is the
daughter of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard whom she fondly
remembers sitting on his lap as a child, at the underwater submarine
village, looking up at the glass roof and seeing water & fish swimming
by (in a lake where the maximum depth is 40 feet.)  And let's not
forget the ear implants, the remote-controlled killer bees, and that
Hurricane Katrina could have been stopped by a satellite laser beam.
This kook is not only very sick, but incredibly stupid.

This sicko who has spent years in and out of psychiatric hospitals in
Germany and Utah and claims to be stalked and harassed by agents of a
non-existent German Nazi agency called SEGNPMSS (whose members consists
of everyone Schizo Schwarz hates, including the U.S. government, all of
its agencies, all police agencies (though she has no problem filing
deliberately false complaints with them) and the U.S. courts which has
threatened to sanction her if she files any further false & frivolous
FOIA requests.

Barbara Schwarz is a sad, loathsome 49-year-old woman that acts like a
2-year old intent on spreading her hate & hostility wherever she can
with false accusations, mass spamming and character assassinations of
her perceived enemies. It's only a matter of time before this
mentally disturbed clown will reap the consequences of her actions and
she will forever regret her hateful comments and actions towards
others.

It's not a threat....it's a promise.
Garry Scarff transforms Usenet in Spamnet, Lienet, Threatnet, Forgernet and Abusenet - 15 Sep 2005 16:29 GMT
> **DUMBASS ALERT***DUMBASS ALERT ***DUMBASS ALERT*** DUMBASS ALERT***

CANCEL FINALLY SCARFF'S EARTHLINK ACCOUNT!

Barbara Schwarz isn't anything that is ranted here, but Garry Scarff
from California, using Earthlink, is posting hundreds of defaming
stalker forgings against her on Usenet. He also made numerous death
threats against her and is clearly disturbed. Police should arrest him
before he hurts or kills her. Complain to abuse@abuse.earthlink.com
(abuseatabuse.earthlink.com)

Garry Scarff forges Barbara Schwarz with e-mail address "mad scientist"
and other e-mail addresses. I respond to one of this many forgeries.

GARRY SCARFF IS A FORGER, THREAT MAKER, HARASSER, STALKER, DEFAMER AND
LIAR. BARBARA SCHWARZ ISN'T COMMITTING ANY CRIMES. SHE IS NOTHING WHAT
SCARFF AND HIS FRIENDS LIE-POST ABOUT HER.
He asked reader to file false complaints about Barbara Schwarz to her
library in his hundreds if not thousand of forgings and he uses her
name or posting IDs to spam that library. You should contact
Earthlink.net, Scarff's ISP and demand from him to cancel the forger
Scarff's account. He violated the TOS, federal and state laws a
thousand times. The CEO of Earthlink is Charles "Garry" (no joke)
Betty, and the email address is:
abuse@abuse.earthlink.net. abuseatabuse.earthlink.net

Complain also to following other Earthlink executives, as Sky Dayton,
Brooke Hammerling, Wonhee Sull, Brent Cobb, Jay Lee, Inho Shin, Terry
Boyle, Todd Zapping, Stuart Redsun and Ali Zanjani, who should cancel
Scarff's account, as they can't be that poor to depend on the 21
Dollars a month by criminal Scarff.

Furthermore, inform their $ 440 business partner SK Telecom, the South
Korean mobile operator about what a lawless enterprise EarthLink is
allowing Scarff to use their ISP to commit his outrageous cyber crimes.
Complain to CEO Jung Nam and Deputy CEO Shin Bae Kim, and e-mail to
globalbusiness@sktelecom.com (globalbusiness at sktelecom.com),
ch803@sktelecom.com, (ch803 at sktelecom.com) RND@sktelecom.com, (RND
at stelecom.com) press@sktelecom.com, (Press at sktelecom.com) and
jsoh@sktelecom.com (jsoh at sktelecom.com) and tell them all about
lawless EarthLink customer Garry Scarff.

An ISP who allows the kind of crimes, terror and abuse that Scarff is
making on a daily basis should be barred from the net. Also the
postings that he makes under his own name or name of other people he
also forges, are serious violation of libel and defamation laws and
criminal laws. He and his suppporting friends might be also guilty of
violation of the Rico Act.
Search results for Garry Scarff's ISP: 207.69.138.199
EarthLink, Inc. EARTHLINK2000-D (NET-207-69-0-0-1) 207.69.0.0 -
207.69.255.255 Norman Broadbent Int, INC MINDSPRING-DEDA-8AC0
(NET-207-69-138-192-1) 207.69.138.192 - 207.69.138.207
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/07/08/canada.cybercrime.ap/index.html
http://cybercrimes.net/99MSCCC/MSCCC/Article6/6.01.1.html
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f056.htm
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/f1/forg-law.asp

Tell his ISP Earthlink, his newsreader, and appropriate authorities as
the LAPD and the FBI Cyber crime fighting unit that Scarff commits
felonies.

When you make a Google search, you'll find the "goods" on Gerald Lynn
Scarff, the notorious stalker, death threat maker and defamer of
Barbara Schwarz. Usually he plays the victim, says that the C of S told
him to commit crimes and everybody except he is at fault, but don't
forget, Scarff is a scumbag (stated so by own father) and a liar (say
many people about him) and *he* is the person who committed the crimes.
Scarff is guilty. He said himself he never was a Scientologist.
Somebody pinned that guy on the C of S as infiltrator.
Garry Scarff indicated on June 20, 2005 that he and CAN attorney (the
one that let him pose as only survivor of Jonestown despite he was
never there) harassed Scientologists and former LAPD officer Gene
Ingram with 192 (false) police complaints.
In a declaration dated April 4, 2004 of lawyer Graham Berry is
mentioned that Garry Scarff stole 70 % funds from the Positive Action
Center. Wonder how many thousands of Dollars those were and what he did
with it. Probably paid a male prostitute he got his Aids from.

There is a long declaration by Scarff's former attorney Berry on the
web with "testimony" of June 2, 1999 by Scarff himself. Scarff said
that his "job" was to steal documents, and he worked with Anne Greek to
"deprogram" (kidnap and torture).
Scarff swore that his "job" was to steal documents, that he stole
stacks of books from 7-Eleven, that he "may" (yeah, right) have
defrauded the government with student loans and misrepresentation of
himself, and that he "taught" another "to defraud the government by
preparing the documents necessary for getting student financial aid and
getting pell grants."
Garry Scarff Scarff also infiltrated a lawyers office
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ...
Garry Scarff, whom it had infiltrated
into lawyer Greene's office, to develop a black PR "attack line" that
www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/etc/ga-dec.tx - 79k - Cached - Similar pages
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Wonder what that means, can't be good either
Haupttext - [ Translate this page ]
... gebannt den Erzählungen des Garry Scarff. ... wie folgt
beschrieben: "Nach meiner Meinung ist Garry Scarff ein zwanghafter
Lügner ...
www.menschenrechtsbuero.de/html/teil2.htm - 115k - Cached - Similar
pages

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Garry Scarff is defended by felon and fellow liar Steven Fishman.
Fishman on Cory's Dead Agenting of Scarff
a.r.s., Dec. 10, 1995.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html
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Garry Scarff is harassing his neighbor.
Rental Agreement Discussion Posts
Garry Scarff posted below earlier this year. Everybody knows that *he*
...
Garry Scarff is harassing his neighbor. Garry Scarff posted below
earlier this ...
www.legalspring.com/articles/ keyword/keyword-Rental-Agreement.aspx -
31k - Cached - Similar pages
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Read a posting of Feb 22, 2002 by Ava_member@newsgroup.com
"I can't believe that one of you idiots postes such a threat again. Who
else besides Garry Scarff would be as stupid to post a bomb thread...."
********************************************
Read an affidavit of Scarff on the web. Is dated August 14, 1997.
Scarff wrote that he loses one job after the other, also one at Disney
Land. Thanks heaven. Heck, do you want that pervert around your kids? I
saw him one posting a link to a gay porn site.
He once worked in a hotel. Wonder what manager Brian Huitt has to say
about Scarff.
Scarff wrote odd stuff in that declaration.
"...attorney Elliott Abelson made reference to criminal and credit
checks done..."
We should get our hands on these reports about Scarff.
He indicated in that affidavit that he is guilty of lying under oath
and perjury.
Anybody who reads his postings know that Scarff lies like the German
Nazi propaganda machine.
He also indicated that he is afraid that he is seen as an individual
with severe mental illness and as pathological liar.
Hahahahahaha! He shows evidence of that every day on the net.
###############
And I found that one:

Garry Scarff reported that he signed some agreements with Scientology
following meetings with attorney Elliott Abelson and OSA Chief Mike
Rinder. Here he claimed following, which also supports that Scarff's
lies about Scientologists alleged murder and poison plans and putting
him up to commit crimes were completely fabrications:

"No attempts were made to intimidate & browbeat me into signing false
declarations nor was I threatened. I asked for Mike Rinder to be
present for one of our discussions, as Elliot had not planned on him
being there & Mike Rinder complied. Our conversations were
straight-forward & professional. I respect him for that as I surely
have caused a lot of strife & anger in the Church.

"Am I again a member of the Church of Scientology? No. Because I was
never a member of the Church of Scientology, never on staff of the
Church of Scientology, and took only 2 introductory courses at the
Mission of Davis in Portland, Oregon. Much of what is in my 17-day
deposition in the Fishman-Geertz case are lies."

He is a liar and he is not cured, police failed to arrest him and file
charges against him, and now Barbara Schwarz is his current target of
criminal activities.

Message-ID: <19970713112800.HAA09...@ladde­r02.news.aol.com>
Garry Scarff is hanging with many people portayed as anti-religious
extremists on the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
dcholiman@ev1.net - 16 Sep 2005 02:43 GMT
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Barbara,

It sounds like you have some sort of hidden
agenda.  What is the point of transporting dead
bodies to a site where "they can be safe?"  They
were brought to Memorial already dead,  they were
left on gurneys in the same ward with some live ones.
This was a holding area while everyone tensely waited for
the "conclusion" of the storm.  
David  H
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dcholiman@ev1.net - 16 Sep 2005 03:06 GMT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barbara,

It sounds like you have some sort of hidden
agenda.  What is the point of transporting dead
bodies to a site where "they can be safe?"  They
were brought to Memorial already dead,  they were
left on gurneys in the same ward with some live ones.
This was a holding area while everyone tensely waited for
the "conclusion" of the storm.  
David  H
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