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Certificate of hygiene for all health/hospital workers

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Dave - 27 Aug 2005 11:25 GMT
I have decided that a certificate in hygiene would be good idea to make
compulsory for all workers in the health service or hospitals, from
consultants to cleaners.  A similar type of scheme was brought in for
food in the UK and it had improved confidence and standards.  Breaking
any of the directives given in the training could then be a
disciplinary or criminal offence.
Rob - 27 Aug 2005 12:53 GMT
|| I have decided that a certificate in hygiene would be good idea to
|| make compulsory for all workers in the health service or hospitals,
|| from consultants to cleaners.  A similar type of scheme was brought
|| in for food in the UK and it had improved confidence and standards.
|| Breaking any of the directives given in the training could then be a
|| disciplinary or criminal offence.

Yes good idea. Of course the testing and issuing would have to be contracted
out to a company without any proper experience, who will do it for a
ridiculously low price by paying the testers the absolute minimum, thus
demotivating them and ensuring the worst possible service. Is that more or
less what you had in mind?

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Dave - 27 Aug 2005 13:05 GMT
You seem to be more concerned about the mechanics of testing than the
tens of thousands people infected in UK hospitals each year through
ignorance and negligence.

You may need identity cards, though, to validate identity.  The last
time I had a test I needed my passport.
Moo - 27 Aug 2005 13:19 GMT
"Dave" <dwickford@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>I have decided that a certificate in hygiene would be good idea to make
> compulsory for all workers in the health service or hospitals, from
> consultants to cleaners.

Administrated by whom and to help with what problem?

moo
Dave - 27 Aug 2005 18:17 GMT
There are tens of thousands of people each year who catch infections in
dirty hospitals in the UK.  Tests could be administered as part of the
interview process.
Welsh Witch - 27 Aug 2005 15:06 GMT
> I have decided that a certificate in hygiene would be good idea to make
> compulsory for all workers in the health service or hospitals, from
> consultants to cleaners.  A similar type of scheme was brought in for food
> in the UK and it had improved confidence and standards.  Breaking any of
> the directives given in the training could then be a disciplinary or
> criminal offence.
**************************
This seemed good idea at the time but have you so much confidence in them
when you know they are also gained by those with severe learning
difficulties who habitually pick their noses when operating etc!
Whilst we are told that A levels are worth nothing much these days what
can these be worth?
***************************
Dave - 27 Aug 2005 18:33 GMT
Probably there needs to be a rethink about all the furniture, fabrics
on curtains etc. in hospitals.  I remember bedside cabinets can catch
dust and lazy cleaners might not clean under and behind them.  My
preferred solutions may include giving gowns and pull over slippers to
visitors.

I do have more confidence in food prepartion with compulsory training,
and am pleased how independent standards bodies enforce standards
(environmental health departments).  Perhaps environmental heath
departments should inspect NHS hospitals, and investigate each case of
infection (like they can for food poisoning).

Compulsory training is good because it means that if the rules are
broken action can be taken.
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