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fresh~horses@despammed.com - 21 Aug 2005 04:56 GMT
Steve Harris' breakfast Shake
Serves One

These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half a cup
to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is what I do
each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories compared with
frozen fruit-- why not get the extra nutrients in the
equivalent amount of frozen mixed berries, instead? The
pricing and calories if you get a good frozen fruit mix
(Costco) compare well.

I microwave the frozen fruit (2 min on 50%) in the glass, to
get something I can mix with a plug-in hand drink/cocktail
mixer. This and a very large glass is even easier to use
than a blender. And washes afterwards with liquid soap in
the same way.

Since I published this, whey protein has become much less
expensive (you can Designer Whey online someplace like
Vitamix.com, for half what you can in the stores), and can
be used to replace half the soy, which improves palatability
and solubility. I still use soy for the specific soy
benefits. If you're vegetarian, you can still keep it all
soy, no problem.

You can take the fat out completely, but the shake doesn't
stick to the ribs as well. These days I recommend just about
everybody take 5 to 10 grams (5 to 10 x 1000 mg) of cold
water fish oil (containing 1.5 to 3 grams of EPA/DHA), and
this adds another 100 kcal (10 grams). You don't put it in
the shake, but if you take it along with, you can avoid the
"Beluga burps" that sometimes are a problem with fish oil on
an emptier stomach. This much cold water fish body oil and
perhaps 4 grams (4 x 1 gram caps) of borage oils stick to
the ribs as well as the 14 g of avocado oil, and they
deliver all your omega-3s and a big dose of GLA (about a
gram), both of which help a lot as antiinflammatories (for
workouts) and probably general anti-aging substances. You
don't really need monounsaturated fat as an essential
nutrient.

Publish away.

SBH
christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com - 21 Aug 2005 09:29 GMT
Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
lignans, also.  A bit of guar gum will thicken the smoothie, also.
George Cherry - 21 Aug 2005 18:10 GMT
> Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
> flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
> lignans, also.  A bit of guar gum will thicken the smoothie, also.

Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in
the Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder.
Then come the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole
soybeans, cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water.
No doubt I've left something out (because my wife makes
it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
also. What else would be good in it, folks?

George
Pizza Girl. - 21 Aug 2005 20:13 GMT
Not combining starches and fruits.

> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
> > flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
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>
> George
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 21 Aug 2005 20:17 GMT
But god already did that.....

> Not combining starches and fruits.
>
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> >
> > George
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George Cherry - 21 Aug 2005 23:56 GMT
> Not combining starches and fruits.

Oh, lord, lord, what fools some posters be.

>> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
>> > flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
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>>
>> George
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 22 Aug 2005 21:21 GMT
> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
> > flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
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>
> George

COMMENT:

It would be good to take out the broccoli. Yecchh.

G. Bush, Sr.
George Cherry - 23 Aug 2005 03:11 GMT
>> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture and
>> > flavor, as well as nutritional elements.  I use ground flax seeds for
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>
> G. Bush, Sr.

LOL. Actually, it's very palatable! I just checked with
she who blends it. I left out the banana.

Every ingredient has a sophisticated scientific basis.  : o )

Oh yes, here's Mark Twain's prescient description of G. Bush, Jr.:

"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence--
and then success is sure."

Too bad it was Twain rather than Bush who was prescient.

GWC
George Cherry - 23 Aug 2005 03:45 GMT
George Cherry wrote:
> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1124612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
> also. What else would be good in it, folks?

Excuse the self-response. I left out the

frozen baby carrots
infant oat groat sprouts
frozen baby peas
ripe banana (but not too old!)

The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are also
frozen.

GWC
George Cherry - 23 Aug 2005 03:58 GMT
> George Cherry wrote:
>> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are also
> frozen.

To preserve their newborn freshness.
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 23 Aug 2005 19:24 GMT
> > Excuse the self-response. I left out the
> >
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>
> To preserve their newborn freshness.

How re-veal-ing.

Nature's first green is gold
Her hardest hue to hold
Her early leaf's a flower
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf
So Eden sank to greif
So dawn goes down to day
Nothing gold can stay.

Robert Frost
George Cherry - 24 Aug 2005 02:14 GMT
>> > Excuse the self-response. I left out the
>> >
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>
> Robert Frost

Despite his name, Robert didn't
take into account freezing and
thawing out. (It even works on embryos.)
Mr-Natural-Health - 21 Aug 2005 13:43 GMT
> Steve Harris' breakfast Shake
> Serves One
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> each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories compared with
> frozen fruit--

May I suggest that you take 'Writing 101' from a local community
college?

You have my condolences.
fresh~horses@despammed.com - 21 Aug 2005 15:31 GMT
I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state on the mat
here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the
best. And I have some authority to back that judgement. You don't.

The shake's not bad either.
Mr-Natural-Health - 21 Aug 2005 16:46 GMT
> I don't know who you are...

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

> I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the
> best.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

You have my condolenses.
David Wright - 21 Aug 2005 22:10 GMT
>> I don't know who you are...
>
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>
>Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

As the empty head echoes once again.

>You have my condolenses.

You have most everyone's, Toothless John.  Your consistently lame
writing style and frequent self-congratulation make you a model
for nobody.

By the way, are "condo lenses" binoculars used to view condominiums?

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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    "If you meet the Buddha on the net, put him in your killfile."
                                -- Anon.
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 22 Aug 2005 23:47 GMT
> I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state on the mat
> here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the
> best. And I have some authority to back that judgement. You don't.
>
> The shake's not bad either.

Paste-eater.
fresh~horses - 22 Aug 2005 23:50 GMT
Possibly...but what's the context?
fresh~horses - 22 Aug 2005 23:55 GMT
> > I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state on the mat
> > here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the
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>
> Paste-eater.

Oh. I don't have television.
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 22 Aug 2005 23:10 GMT
> > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake
> > Serves One
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>
> You have my condolences.

COMMENT:
Is that where somebody tried to teach YOU to write, O Prunefaced One?
Why else would you think of it in this context?

For the record, what Zee has just posted rather spontaneously and
without warning (above), is actually an amputated 2004 footnote of mine
originally intended to update an old (1997) article. You see here the
footnote only, and not the article it was intended to supplement (Zee's
fault), so it suffers by being out of natural context and without any
obvious referent. Sort of like you, Gohde, when you post on
sci.nutrition. Except you do it all by yourself.

SBH
fresh~horses - 22 Aug 2005 23:18 GMT
> > > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake
> > > Serves One
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>
> SBH

I was supposed to include that part?

----- Original Message -----
From: <fresh~horses@despammed.com>
To: <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:49 PM
Subject: veg shake recipe

> Salut Dr. Harris
>
> I want to use your breakfast shake recipe, and in fact
post it, if I may.

> 1. would you make any changes?
>
> 2. may I post it? I know you said so after the recipe. But
that was some time ago. Should I only post the recipe part,
or also the comment?

> 3. if one is watching fats is one tablespoon oil
advisable?

> I'll only be drinking one-half the recipe at a time. I
intend to use it 2 hours prior to work outs.

> Thank you for the advice about fish oil. I'm using a small
amount happily and will gradually increase.

> Zee
>
> P.S. I thought to ask you on newsgroup but decided you'd
prefer privately. Hope I haven't offended.

> Banana-Vanilla Anti-Cancer Anti-Heart-Disease
> Weight-Loss Breakfast Shake:
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> 1/2 cup maltodextrin
> 1/4 cup soy protein (get brands with no added methionine
such as
> CHALLENGE brand with 95% isolated soy).
>
> This can be done as dry ingredients the evening before.  A
mix of
> 2 parts maltodextrin and 1 part soy protein powder (by
volume)
> can also be made up in bulk, for even faster measurement
>
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> 5 drops vanilla extract
> 2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2 to 1
cup
> frozen fruit (preferred)
> 1 large banana (partly for sweetness, and also
consistency)

> Or the blender pitcher-top can be left in the refrigerator
> overnight with the liquids in it, and the ice in the
freezer
> (there never seems to be enough time in the mornings for
the
> author, so this kind of preparation works well).
>
> Step 3:
>
> In the AM, simply add the protein powder on top of the
liquid
> ingredients, add a banana and ice, and blend on "low"
blend
> setting, until smooth (60 seconds or so), for a drink of
16 oz.
> Chug it down, quickly rinse the blender before it becomes
a
> problem to wash (you can use soapy water and blend again
for a
> few seconds), and you can be out the door in a minute or
two.

>     For other flavors, frozen whole organic strawberries,
> peaches, blueberries, blackberries, or melon, can be added
to
> taste.  Just keep small bags of frozen fruit in the
freezer, and
> prepare and use a packet of mixed frozen fruits in your
shake,
> instead of ice.
>
>     Don't be afraid to experiment with mixed fruits (the
purple
> and blue ones may make the shake look strange, but they
taste
> good).  Bananas are easy to freeze also, when they are
ripe
> (never mind the dark appearance of frozen bananas--they
also
> taste fine after blending).   Epidemiologically,
strawberries and
> melons top the list of anti-cancer fruits, and
huckleberries,
> blackcurrents, blueberries and blackberries are highest in
the
> bioflavonoids which possibly naturally prevent some heart
disease
> and thrombophlebitis problems.
>
>     For those mornings when a chance from fruit is in
order,
> Hershey chocolate syrup makes for a health non-fat flavor,
as
> (aside from satisfying the odd craving that some people
have for
> it) it contains healthful flavonoids as well.  The banana-
> chocolate shake is excellent.

************************************************************

> Nutritional Analysis (for the plain banana/vanilla
version):

> Protein: 20 grams (about 1/3 of daily protein requirement)
> Carbohydrate: 105 g (~30 grams simple sugars, no lactose)
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> Instant Breakfasts with skim milk (200 Calories each).
> Calorically, note that an "Instant Breakfast" is not much
of a
> breakfast.  It would be possible to duplicate the
approximate
> food value in the above shake in the same volume at about
the
> same cost with *two* Instant Breakfasts, condensed skim
and
> regular skim milk (50:50) to make 16 oz, and some almond
oil.
> But the resulting drink would have milk casein in place of
soy
> protein and soy nutrients, and also have a lot of lactose
(unless
> you added lactase enzyme such as Lactaid too...).
Generally,
> this would be inferior.
>
>    Again, note that some fat and fat-calories have been
added
> deliberately, in order to avoid "daily Calories eaten late
in the
> day" trap.  There is no point in trying to make this a
"low-
> calorie" shake-- that defeats the entire purpose of the
thing!
> Also, vitamins, minerals, and omega-3 fatty acids have
been not
> been balanced, on assumption that supplement pills,
fruits,
> vegetables, and other fat sources will be added later in
the
> daily diet.
>
>    Some health-seekers will immediately think of adding
the
> traditional things like brewer's yeast, vitamins,
wheatgerm oil,
> and lecithin to this recipe.  My best advice on this is:
don't.
> These things taste awful to many people!  It takes an
unusual
> person to drink something most mornings over the long run
if it
> doesn't taste pretty good.  If you make these sweet and
tasty
> shakes correctly, however, you can drink one every morning
and
> never get tired of them.  The clean taste of strawberries,
> several types of mellon balls, peaches, and almond oil in
a shake
> go particularly well.
>
> (May be reprinted anywhere without permission, if done
not-for-
> profit).
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 22 Aug 2005 23:46 GMT
> > > > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake
> > > > Serves One
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> not-for-
> > profit).

"I was supposed to include that part?"
The actual recipe?  Duh, yes, but now you have.
David Rind - 23 Aug 2005 02:56 GMT
>>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2 to 1

Distilled water? Why?

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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 23 Aug 2005 03:15 GMT
> >>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2 to 1
>
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> David Rind
> drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

COMMENT:
It was cheaper than reverse osmosis purified at the time I wrote. I
don't care about the minerals, I just wanted the chlorinated organics
out.

Since then, I've given up the ice entirely (it was only for cooling),
and use frozen fruit for any cooling I need. So long as you include
banana, no amount of frozen fruit will screw up your blender.

SBH
fresh~horses - 23 Aug 2005 03:17 GMT
> > >>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2 to 1
> >
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>
> SBH

But what are you eating that is cereal/grain fibre with this? Anything?

Zee
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 23 Aug 2005 19:20 GMT
Man does not live by insoluble fiber alone. The soluble "fiber" (a bad
term in this context because it suggests qualities different from what
the actual stuff has) in fruit is quite enough, all by itself. You're
meant to eat bananas. Cereals are a quite a recent addition to the
human diet. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with
them, but there's no RDA for bran or oatmeal roughage, either.

SBH
Pizza Girl. - 23 Aug 2005 22:18 GMT
I have never heard of a single group from left to rightwing that can argue
against bananas.

Even the Mental health clinics have people going bananas.

> Man does not live by insoluble fiber alone. The soluble "fiber" (a bad
> term in this context because it suggests qualities different from what
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>
> SBH
William Wagner - 23 Aug 2005 22:31 GMT
> I have never heard of a single group from left to rightwing that can argue
> against bananas.
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> >
> > SBH

Yes but they come from the banana republics .  Which have OIL not the
edible kind.   Going bananas seems all to easy almost the default.

Now where is my 700 club contribution?   Oh I flushed it.

Peace

Bill   ranting

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