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Paper on CFS

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curious guy - 19 Aug 2005 16:00 GMT
There is a new paper by Dr. Peckerman and associates published in "THE
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF THE MEDICAL SCIENCES" that claims that
all patients who are disabled by CFS have very low Cardiac output. You
can read the article here:

www.cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/Coicfs/peckerman.etal.03.pdf

Was this study well designed and well executed?  Is what the study
says likely to be true?  Do you have any comments on the study?  
Jim Chinnis - 19 Aug 2005 16:13 GMT
curious guy <curious_guy@hushmail.com> wrote in part:

>There is a new paper by Dr. Peckerman and associates published in "THE
>AMERICAN JOURNAL OF THE MEDICAL SCIENCES" that claims that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Was this study well designed and well executed?  Is what the study
>says likely to be true?  Do you have any comments on the study?  

I've only had a minute to glance at it, but the first concern
would be that reduced cardiac output may just be a result of
reduced activity level.
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Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
curious guy - 20 Aug 2005 19:45 GMT
>curious guy <curious_guy@hushmail.com> wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>would be that reduced cardiac output may just be a result of
>reduced activity level.

They do address that in the study.  They said:

Reduction in cardiac output in patients with CFS
could also be the effect of deconditioning. However,
this seems unlikely, because there seem to be no
significant differences in physical fitness between
patients with CFS and sedentary control subjects.33
Furthermore, if deconditioning were the cause, the
patients with severe CFS would be expected to report
greater reduction in activities, which was not
the finding of this study.

Does this adequately address your concerns?
Twittering One - 19 Aug 2005 21:18 GMT
Eat a pickle ~ !
listener - 19 Aug 2005 21:50 GMT
> Eat a pickle ~ !

Kosher?

L.
Twittering One - 20 Aug 2005 00:01 GMT
Kosher?
Whichever has the most vinegar and salt,
as hypo BP underlies CFS often.

I recall a study a while back indicating one pickle a day
helped CFS quite a bit.

Harmless, too.
 
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