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Medical Forum / General / General / August 2005Suicide, knives, veins
If you wanted to kill yourself with a knife, what parts of the body would cause the most blood loss the fastest? I've read that the inner thighs would be a good place but most people cut their throats ear to ear. (I'm not going to do it - I'm just curious) > If you wanted to kill yourself with a knife, what parts of the body > would cause the most blood loss the fastest? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (I'm not going to do it - I'm just curious) Cut the veins in your arms in a vertical direction or your throat, I'd guess. Suicide, knives, veins ~ "Cut the veins in your arms In a vertical direction or your throat, I'd Guess." ~ Tiny Dancer "Says David, or Marguritte?" ~Twittering "O deer, Try One more time." ~ Twittering "Death o' a loved one is one o' th' most stressful events fer little sandcrabs. It is not a rare occurrence. After th' death o' a loved one, little sandcrabs must cope with circumstances that require landlubberal, familial, and social changes, I'll warrant ye. 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[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (I'm not going to do it - I'm just curious) You want an artery, since that will pump the blood right out. The femoral, accessible in the leg, or the carotid, just below the ear, are what I've heard are the best choices. >> If you wanted to kill yourself with a knife, what parts of the body >> would cause the most blood loss the fastest? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > accessible in the leg, or the carotid, just below the ear, are what I've > heard are the best choices. A paramedic told me that most people slit their wrists...across. But if they'd start at the wrist and cut deeply *going upwards*, they'd cause a wound that would sever several arteries quickly, and they'd bleed out before their cry for "rescue" was answered. I'm not going to test it. Kris > A paramedic told me that most people slit their wrists...across. > But if they'd start at the wrist and cut deeply *going upwards*, > they'd cause a wound that would sever several arteries quickly, > and they'd bleed out before their cry for "rescue" was answered. I think you would sever veins, not arteries. You would die, but not *that* quickly. It is true that to actually die, you need to cut the wrists lengthways, cutting across usually produces a wound that will coagulate enough to stop bleeding, and you'll live to have to clean up the mess. > I'm not going to test it. Oh c'mon, there has to be *somebody* you really, really don't like. No, I mean in real life, not in here. Bo > If you wanted to kill yourself with a knife, what parts of the body > would cause the most blood loss the fastest? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (I'm not going to do it - I'm just curious) The aorta. > If you wanted to kill yourself with a knife, what parts of the body > would cause the most blood loss the fastest? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (I'm not going to do it - I'm just curious) The left ventricle, any advance on the left ventricle? >The left ventricle, any advance on the left ventricle? Yeah, that'll sure do the job if the cut is large enough, but cutting your own left ventricle would take some serious chutzpah. You would have to plunge a knife between ribs, which takes some force and is going to hurt like hell, and do it in exactly the right spot, angle, and depth. Much easier to just lay open the carotid artery. Easy to find and easy to cut. > >The left ventricle, any advance on the left ventricle? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Much easier to just lay open the carotid artery. Easy to find and easy to > cut. Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels. tiny dancer goes: >Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels. Yawn. Puke the lot right up. Pills are a bad way to kill yourself, if you're not equipped and prepared. Suicide is even harder than Dorothy Parker made it out to be. And aside from how difficult it is, think of the poor souls who have to find your damn corpse, or scrape it off the pavement. Bury yourself in a deep hole. It's the only thoughtful way.  SignatureAH > tiny dancer goes: > > >Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels. > > Yawn. Puke the lot right up. Not if you do it right. td > Pills are a bad way to kill yourself, if you're not equipped and > prepared. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bury yourself in a deep hole. It's the only thoughtful way. >> tiny dancer goes: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Not if you do it right. Nah, Alan is right. I've seen it "done right" and still fail countless times. There are very few certain means of suicide, and neither pills nor bleeding are among them. Both methods fail far more than they succeed. But the topic here is suicide by bleeding, and for that method the carotid artery is clearly the best choice. >>> tiny dancer goes: >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > But the topic here is suicide by bleeding, and for that method > the carotid artery is clearly the best choice. Actress Lupe Velez thought pills would be a great way to commit suicide. She carefully prepared her bed with candles and flowers all around, put the finest silks on, took the pills, and laid down. Unfortunately, she got sick. She didn't want to mess up her carefully planned dream of being found "dead but beautiful", so she struggled to the toilet......where she was found, dead, the next day. Reports differ on whether her head was found IN the toilet bowl, or if she collapsed next to it. Kris Physicians have the best option, Both means and method. > Actress Lupe Velez thought pills would be a great way to > commit suicide. She carefully prepared her bed with candles [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > her head was found IN the toilet bowl, or if she collapsed > next to it. So you're saying that an attractive woman was concerned about her appearance, even after a suicide? Another reason I don't think that idiot in Chicago that rammed her car in to three innocent victims really meant to commit suicide. > Nah, Alan is right. I've seen it "done right" and still fail countless > times. There are very few certain means of suicide, and neither pills nor > bleeding are among them. Both methods fail far more than they succeed. > > But the topic here is suicide by bleeding, and for that method the carotid > artery is clearly the best choice. COMMENT: Nor "clearly" when he himself might his quietus make with a bare bodkin... If you must bleed, I vote with Hamlet for the thin round shiv between the ribs. The heart is easier to hit than a carotid, probably less painful since you don't muck around, and faster. And much less messy. Hah, you say, how can anybody possibly miss a carotid?! Well, when it's YOUR neck, you can miss. On the other hand, if you hit it and change your mind, it's easier to survive. Direct pressure and 911 and you might just possibly make it. With the heart, it's much harder. It happens, but not often. SBH > > Nah, Alan is right. I've seen it "done right" and still fail countless > > times. There are very few certain means of suicide, and neither pills nor [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > bodkin... If you must bleed, I vote with Hamlet for the thin round shiv > between the ribs. and skip the sleeping draught, unless you want to fake it and avoid a loveless marriage. Just be sure to tell your true love it's all a put=on..... > The heart is easier to hit than a carotid, probably > less painful since you don't muck around, and faster. And much less [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > SBH >Hah, you say, how can anybody possibly miss a carotid?! Well, when it's >YOUR neck, you can miss. On the other hand, if you hit it and change >your mind, it's easier to survive. Direct pressure and 911 and you >might just possibly make it. With the heart, it's much harder. It >happens, but not often. Bah. You just wanted to quote Shakespeare. ;-) > Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels. Which pills? SignatureI don't know who you are Sir, or where you come from, but you've done me a power of good. What a bunch of killjoys. > > >The left ventricle, any advance on the left ventricle? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels. Got hemlock? 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Or do you free her, Heal her, Then teach her how to avoid such traps?" ~ Folly * Hard to Focus ~ Yes, If you have ADD, it is far worse. Also, beware of ~ Confusion Induction Hypnosis. That makes matters far worse. If an Authority Figure Does that to you, you are particularly vulnerable. If you are already traumatized, You even more vulnerable. If an authority figure, Who wishes to conceal information, Does this to you while you are traumatized, And your life is in danger ~ You are exceptionally vulnerable. That is undue manipulation, And that is very harmful. If you have ADD, That compounds the situation exponentially. Typo correction ~ When is "Telling an authority figure" You were abused Not good enough? If you do that, and they deny your experience, How can you keep fighting? If your rights are violated, And you tell the person you pay as your mental healthcare Provider, And they deny this happened, Who do you turn to, If there is no one else in your life? "The Kosher lets you keep it safe and holy. Yahweh would no doubt send an approving nod your way for protecting the precious gift of free will he hath given unto you." Free Will? Ha! Not if trauma has you regressed to a child-like state. That is not Adult Free Will. That is a state being compromised, Due to injury. "So here I am. I feel like I'm going from ~ Channel Z to Channel B and back again ... What day, what year? What sings inside my ear? What cinema reels me vertigineously behind open eyes? How many I's am I?" ~ Twittering Oh Carey, May I suggest you offer a personal demo? :o) >Oh Carey, > >May I suggest you offer a personal demo? :o) Don't you have homework you should be doing? Why on earth would someone be "wondering" about such a thing? I could understand it better if you were writing a book or something. Such negative thoughts! Why on earth would someone be "wondering" about such a thing? I could understand it better if you were writing a book or something. Such negative thoughts! "Why on earth would someone be 'wondering' About such a thing? I could Understand it better if you were writing a book or something. Such negative thoughts!" ~ Ann "Got gutted mind? Got Mind Shaft shafted, wondering around, all alone, another time, Got know map, got know way home, Got over ~ charged, too? Too much negative, all quantum foam, No positive ~ A deficit, for sure, short ~ changed, Deranged, rearranged, harangued, Left where even kangaroos never roam, Never venture? Pain, your prescription ~ Your endless subscription ..." ~ White Chalk |
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