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PROMOTING BIRTH CONTROL = LESS ABORTION

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essentialsexinfo3@rock.com - 30 Jul 2005 08:35 GMT
Lack of birth control leads to three million unplanned pregnancies per
year.  One million of these pregnancies end in abortion.  Two million
of these pregnancies end in unplanned childbirth.  By not promoting
birth control, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies.  Though some say
that promoting birth control could encourage sex, that added risk from
the increased incidence of sex, is extremely slight because it is
increased safe sex, compared to the decrease in unsafe sex, turning
unsafe sex into safe sex, and decreasing pregnancy.

The risk of accidental pregnancy when both condoms and birth control
pills are used is approximately 1 in 1,000,000 couples per year.  When
just condoms are used, the risk is 1 in 50 per year and when just birth
control is used, the risk is 1 in 200 per year.

Risk of accidental pregnancy
                        Per Year (assuming 100 sex acts)   Per Act
No protection             8 in 10 (1 in 1.25)               1 in 125
Condoms                   1 in 50                           1 in 5,000
Birth Control             1 in 200                          1 in 20,000
Condoms & Birth Control   1 in 1,000,000           1 in 100,000,000

Calculation is derived as 5,000*20,000=100,000,000

There are around 100 million women in the United States between the
ages of 14-59 who can get pregnant.  If every one of these women are on
birth control and use condoms, there will only be 100 unplanned
pregnancies per year.

Thus we should promote birth control.  Specifically we should promote
the use of two forms of birth control - such as the pill, and condoms -
together, at the same time.

And thus we may conclude, that failing to promote and provide birth
control is one of the most immoral things in the world, leading to
1 million abortions, and 2 million unplanned childbirths, over 500,000
of them to teenage mothers.

Given that there are approximately 4 million babies born per year, 2
million, or 50% of all newborns are thus unplanned.  This must surely
have a demonstrative effect upon the socio-econcomic status of our
society.

Literature regarding different birth control methods:
http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/hormonal_contraception.html
http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/contraception.html

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essentialsexinfo2@rock.com - 30 Jul 2005 09:00 GMT
Risk of accidental pregnancy BEST case scenario assuming PERFECT use
            Per Year (assuming 100 sex acts)    Per Act
No protection  8 in 10 (1 in 1.25)           1 in 125
Condoms                 1 in 50              1 in 5,000
Birth Control           1 in 333             1 in 33,300
Condoms & Birth Control 1 in 1,665,000       1 in 166,500,000*

Given 100,000,000 women of child bearing age (ages 14-59*),
Unplanned pregnancies result: 100,000,000/1,665,000= 60

Risk of accidental pregnancy WORST case scenario assuming TYPICAL use
       Per Year (assuming 80 sex acts)        Per Act
No protection  8 in 10 (1 in 1.25)           1 in 125
Condoms                 1 in 6.6             1 in 533
Birth Control           1 in 12.5            1 in 1,000
Condoms & Birth Control 1 in 6,666           1 in 533,333

533*1000=533,333
533,333/80=6,666
Unplanned pregnancies result: 100,000,000/6,666=15,000

Pregnancy rates of different contraceptives are from:
Comparison Of Birth Control Effectiveness: Number of Pregnancies per
100 Women During First Year of Use
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontro
l/pub-birth-control-02.xml

&  more info here:
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040215/853.html

Data does not say how many times couples are assumed to have sex, so
based on information gathered elsewhere, I estimated 80-100 times to
concoct best and worst case scenarios.

Currently there are an average 1 million abortions per year
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0764203.html
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html

48% of all U.S. pregnancies (and 78% of teen pregnancies) are an
unplanned
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/lifestyle/a/blunplannedpreg.htm

And 4 million new babies are born per year
http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/fertility/fert94/htab02.txt

The below statistics give you an idea of how much safer contraception
makes us, and when compared to the numbers above, specifically how much
safer two forms of contraception make us.  Of course, not all women are
having sex, so all estimates of unplanned pregnancy above and below are
exaggerated.

unplanned pregnancies result with no contraception: 100,000,000/1.25 =
80,000,000
unplanned pregnancies result with condoms alone
(perfect use): 100,000,000/50 = 2,000,000,000
(typical use) 100,000,000/6.667 = 15,000,000
unplanned pregnancies result with birth control alone
(perfect use): 100,000,000/333=  300,300
(typical use) = 100,000,000/12.5 = 8,000,000

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Rates of adolescent birth, abortion and pregnancy per year (per 1,000
women aged 15-19) and abortion ratio (per 100 pregnancies) by developed
country, for the most recent year available

Country Birth rate Abortion rate Pregnancy rate Abortion ratio
U.S.    54.4          29.2         83.6           34.9
Real #'s 544,000     292,000      836,000      291,764
10 million teen females
http://www.baby-parenting.com/pregnancy/teen_pregnancy_statistics.html

*Calculation is derived as 5,000*33,300=166,500,000
*see census data
http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbpyrs.pl?cty=US&out=s&ymax=250a
Mark - 30 Jul 2005 09:19 GMT
Would you please stop cross-posting this sh.t to rec.nude???

> Risk of accidental pregnancy BEST case scenario assuming PERFECT use
>             Per Year (assuming 100 sex acts)    Per Act
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> *see census data
> http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbpyrs.pl?cty=US&out=s&ymax=250a
Sylvia Else - 30 Jul 2005 11:08 GMT
> Specifically we should promote
> the use of two forms of birth control - such as the pill, and condoms -
> together, at the same time.

People who are using two forms of birth control are presumably very wary
 of getting pregnant, and are likely to be taking more care with both
forms of control than would typical people using just one form.

This is a form of self selection bias.

Sylvia.
Matt Beckwith - 31 Jul 2005 00:47 GMT
> By not promoting
> birth control, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies.

This argument would only make sense to people with low IQ's, it seems to me.

If you believe that abortion is murder, then the above statements becomes,
"By not promoting murder, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies."

Those who are against abortion believe it to be murder, so this argument
will convince no one.
Sylvia Else - 31 Jul 2005 10:49 GMT
>>By not promoting
>>birth control, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Those who are against abortion believe it to be murder, so this argument
> will convince no one.

Run that past me again. Start with

"By not promoting birth control, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies."

Now, it's the unplanned pregancies that lead to abortions, not the birth
control. So substituting "abortion" for "unplanned pregnancies" we get:

"By not promoting birth control, you're choosing abortions."

Now substitute "murder" for "abortions", and we get:

"By not promoting birth control, you're choosing murder."

This is rather different from your claimed result of

"By not promoting murder, you're choosing unplanned pregnancies."

What was that about a low IQ?

Sylvia.
Jezebel - 01 Aug 2005 20:35 GMT
Everyone missed the point of this post.

It's not to do with morality or ethics at all.  It's actually a fairly
clever SPAM tactic to get unsuspecting readers to look at the post and
possibly increase sales of a product.

Hence the link to a condom website and crosspost to the nude newsgroup.

The more readers respond to the inflammatory comments, the more the
link to their product gets viewed.

Cheers to the spammer for creativity.  

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