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Richard Fangnail - 27 Jul 2005 00:30 GMT
Are there insects besides mosquitos that give humans the same kind of
bites?

I sometimes notice these bites on my shins when I haven't been outdoors
much.  I would usually notice mosquitos if they were around.

If the bites are on my skin that is usually covered by socks, then I
was bitten while in bed (where I don't wear socks) or the insects bit
through the socks, or they were actually inside the socks.  Can
mosquitos bite all the way through socks?

Once I went out when it was hot and I had a ring of five terrible bites
right above my sock line.  Horrible.

Does Off spray repellant work for you?

What do you put on the bites that works?  Benadryl cream works to a
small degree for me.  It's better to just not think about them.

I always the bites were itchy because they were DRY.  But it's because
of something more complex, isn't it?
Andy Sullivan - 27 Jul 2005 01:06 GMT
Do you have pets, especially dogs, cats or birds?  You could
have fleas or ticks in your house.  Sure sign of this is having bites
right at or above the sock line of your legs.

The fix would be to have your pets, floors and/or carpets cleaned
and treated for fleas, and make sure you replace the bag on your
vacuum cleaner.

> Are there insects besides mosquitos that give humans the same kind of
> bites?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I always the bites were itchy because they were DRY.  But it's because
> of something more complex, isn't it?
PF Riley - 27 Jul 2005 05:11 GMT
>Are there insects besides mosquitos that give humans the same kind of
>bites?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>I always the bites were itchy because they were DRY.  But it's because
>of something more complex, isn't it?

Where you live might be helpful. Chiggers cause bites that are similar
to mosquito bites but particularly more itchy and with no central
punctum. That might explain the bites above your sock line from going
outside, depending on where you live.

PF
dcholiman@ev1.net - 27 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
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I have noticed that chigger bites are self
limiting and don't spread beyond the initial
exposure area.  Do the chiggers bite and
jump/fall off, or do they die from fingertip
abrasion ?
David H
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HCN - 27 Jul 2005 05:54 GMT
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I have noticed that chigger bites are self
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> David H
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

I always thought they buried into the skin... and the way we were supposed
to kill them was to put fingernail polish on them and to NOT scratch at them
(infection prevention, I guess).  So I spent a couple of mid-west summers
with blotches on my legs from mercurochrome (sp) and fingernail polish.
dcholiman@ev1.net - 27 Jul 2005 07:16 GMT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fingernail polish is also good for stopping
hangnail pain and aggravation.  I have never
tried it on other skin surfaces.
David H
~~~~~~~~~~
Carey Gregory - 28 Jul 2005 06:18 GMT
>I sometimes notice these bites on my shins when I haven't been outdoors
>much.  I would usually notice mosquitos if they were around.

You would notice them if they were at torso and face level, but different
species of mosquitoes hang out at different heights.  Some mosquito's hang
out around ankle/shin height.   That could very well account for it.

Someone else mentioned fleas.   That's another possibility.

>If the bites are on my skin that is usually covered by socks, then I
>was bitten while in bed (where I don't wear socks) or the insects bit
>through the socks, or they were actually inside the socks.  Can
>mosquitos bite all the way through socks?

Yes, mosquito's can definitely bite through socks.  I see you've never been
in a warm climate during the rainy season. ;-)

>Does Off spray repellant work for you?

Yes, and all the other brands of DEET work just as well.

The bites don't bother me much so I don't bother using it where I live now,
but when I lived in a tropical area I doused myself with the stuff
frequently.  

>What do you put on the bites that works?  Benadryl cream works to a
>small degree for me.  It's better to just not think about them.
>
>I always the bites were itchy because they were DRY.  But it's because
>of something more complex, isn't it?

It has nothing to do with being dry.  That would be the irritation caused by
the bite itself.  The mosquito injects a tiny bit of saliva under your skin
before sucking blood.  Some people have a strong inflammatory reaction to it
and others don't.  You don't appear to be one of the lucky ones.
dcholiman@ev1.net - 28 Jul 2005 14:27 GMT
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I consider a good immune system response
to be lucky indeed.  I would rather have a welt
of WBC fighting mosquito saliva than no
reaction at all.

Recently I stuck my hand in the mailbox at
an abandoned house.  I was stung by 3
yellowjackets.  They left 3 punctures which
swelled.  But the pain was surprisingly minor,
and I did not have to apply spirits of Ammonia.
Does this mean my age 63 immune system is
weak?  Or did the yellowjackets not have
sufficient  acceleration to drive their stingers
deep and then detach?
David H
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Carey Gregory - 28 Jul 2005 18:06 GMT
>I consider a good immune system response
>to be lucky indeed.  I would rather have a welt
>of WBC fighting mosquito saliva than no
>reaction at all.

Reacting to an allergen doesn't mean you have a "good" immune system.  
outrider - 29 Jul 2005 04:38 GMT
> >I consider a good immune system response
> >to be lucky indeed.  I would rather have a welt
> >of WBC fighting mosquito saliva than no
> >reaction at all.
>
> Reacting to an allergen doesn't mean you have a "good" immune system.

It's so confusing trying to figure out what the latest "reason" is: why
one person gets bitten and another doesn't; why one swells and itches
badly and another doesn't. I was told once it's blood type (?), now,
there's a co2 theory, which seems more plausible. I've never been
bothered much anyway, in spite of living most of my life on muskeg,
wearing whatever colour I feel like wearing, perfume and no Deet. Black
flies are another matter.

Zee
Happy Dog - 29 Jul 2005 05:20 GMT
"outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in message

>> >I consider a good immune system response
>> >to be lucky indeed.  I would rather have a welt
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> bothered much anyway, in spite of living most of my life on muskeg,
> wearing whatever colour I feel like wearing, perfume and no Deet.

Most people cease to have much of a reaction to mosquito bites after a
couple months exposure or even less.  Then they don't complain anymore.

> Black flies are another matter.

Yes.  Never heard of anyone getting used to them.

moo
Dan - 29 Jul 2005 03:41 GMT
Mosquitos and fleas hate me, I load up on lots of B vitamins.
          Dan
http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog
 
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