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Medical Forum / General / General / July 2005Need ingredients of Protandim
There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about three or four supplements that you can usually purchase in a health food store. I recently found out that some companies are charging about $50.00 for one bottle. Buying the three or four supplements would probably be much cheaper. If you know the ingredients of Protandim--please post them. Thanks in advance, Jason  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement >called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about >three or four supplements that you can usually purchase in a health food >store. I recently found out that some companies are charging about $50.00 >for one bottle. Buying the three or four supplements would probably be >much cheaper. If you know the ingredients of Protandim--please post them. Google on Protandim reveals considerable info... Patent-pending. So you might check the uspto. In clinical trials. So why is it being sold now?? One article noted some concern whether the product has changed over the course of talking about it. So caution, if you find composition info somewhere. It would seem to be an interesting idea. But then the question becomes, what evidence would one require before taking something like this? It is intended for long term use. For most normal people, it would take a very long time to establish any benefit, and perhaps also to establish any risk. Of course, for someone with a documented deficiency, the situation might be different, because there would be something to "fix". You say it is OTC? Sounds like another attempt to makes money off the gullible! I presume there is no evidence that it is helpful, no evidence that it is safe in long term (there may be evidence that it is for short term; not sure). Hey, maybe it will be the next Vioxx -- worse, if there is no evidence for benefit. I didn't try searching PubMed etc, but that might be worthwhile if you want to understand this product. You can undoubtedly go well beyond the little bit I gleaned. bob > >There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement > >called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > bob bob, I saw the ABC program where Protandim was discussed. My memory is not perfect but I seem to recall the professor saying that it did not need FDA approval since all of the ingredients were natural herbs. I visited the health food store and found out that they actually sell almost every ingredient that is in Protandim. Now you know why it's sold "OTC"--over the counter. I won't pay $45.00 for a bottle of Protandim. I'll buy the same ingredients that are in Protandim from various health food stores or companies that sell herbs on the internet. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> >There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement >> >called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >perfect but I seem to recall the professor saying that it did not need FDA >approval since all of the ingredients were natural herbs. Thats' hogwash. I am surprised you consider ABC news a source of medical information. The reason it does not need FDA approval is that it is being sold without any health claims (there is a technical definition of what that means). Gullible public buys stuff with nice labels -- and no proof. No proof it has any value, no proof of safety (esp long term). So people who have no particular problem in the first place buy things which, with luck, have no particular effect. Money Money Money. Follow the money. If they made a health claim, they would be required to back it up. They can't (at least yet), so they sell it this way. They get money. The public gets -- who knows what. The next Vioxx in the making, but this one without any known benefit. I hope you aren't falling for this. bob > >> >There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement > >> >called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > bob bob, According to the professor on the ABC show, they have conducted tests and the test results were positive. I believe the main tests were done on rats or mice. I don't plan to buy a bottle of 30 pills for about $48.00. The total would probably be over $55.00 after shipping and packing bills were added to the cost. They don't have it for sale at either one of the local health food stores. I think that it's a rip off or con job. I already take the main supplements that are part of the mixture. I'll try to get the other ingredients next week. I'll know if it's helping me since I have blood tests every three months and test my blood pressure almost every day. I don't encourage anyone to buy Protandim caplets since the price is so high. Some people are getting rich. At the local health food store, many customers wanted to buy it as a result of the ABC show. It's my guess that the price will come down in a couple of months once the orders stop coming in. Upon request, I'll tell you where you can find the exact ingredients. You can download a picture of the actual label. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. ... >> >I saw the ABC program where Protandim was discussed. My memory is not >> >perfect but I seem to recall the professor saying that it did not need FDA [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >the test results were positive. I believe the main tests were done on rats >or mice. That's nonsense. It would be quite improper to say that a drug is suitable for humans based on animal tests. (It is a step to a clinical trial, however). Let's not worry whether your misunderstanding here is due to faulty memory of something from a while ago, to the inherent simplification of popular media, or whether the "prof" is simply perpetrating a scam. The point is that it is not how drugs are approved. I'm really amazed that you would consider a report in popular media as the basis for taking a drug. As the basis for checking into it, sure. ... > I'll know if it's helping me since I have >blood tests every three months and test my blood pressure almost every >day. That's nonsense. Nothing you said, or could say here, would tell you whether it has any long term benefit -- or harm. It's a pure crapshoot. bob > ... > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > bob bob, It's obvious that you did not see the ABC show. It's also obvious that I did not do a good job of explaining the details related to Protandim. Protandim is NOT a drug or medication. It's the combination of 5 herbs that can be purchased in almost any health food store. After I made the post in a couple of newsgroups, someone sent me the actual ingredients. I plan to buy the separate ingredients at a health food store instead of buying Protandim. I visited a couple of sites that sell Protandim and they are charging about $45.00 per bottle (of 30 pills). That's a rip-off (aka: con job). I won't be buying any bottles. It's my guess that the price will come down in a couple of months after the orders stop coming in as a result of the ABC show. I was just hoping to find some sort of cure for my chol. problems and BP problems that does NOT require me to take medications. The statin medications are making my muscles hurt. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. jason@nospam.com wrote: > I was just hoping to find some sort of cure for my > chol. problems and BP problems that does NOT require me to take > medications. Assuming these herbs are actually having an effect, then they ARE medications and may have fun wacky side-effects of their own. > The statin medications are making my muscles hurt. Talk to your doc, but if you're having that sort of problem then I'd expect him to take you off them. You also might want to get his advice about diet and exercise to control your cholesterol / BP. I am not a doctor, etc. > jason@nospam.com wrote: > > I was just hoping to find some sort of cure for my [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I am not a doctor, etc. Hello, I have discussed this problem with my doctor. Her solution was to change me from one statin to another statin. Both of the statins make my muscles hurt. I stopped taking statins until I see her again in about a month. I'm reading an excellent book about statins and am already on a vegan diet and run or ride a bike 4 miles per day--7 days a week. My research has showed that vit., minerals and herbs are less likely to have dractic side effects than potent medicines such as statins. If a vit., mineral or herb does cause a side effect, I make a note of it and throw the bottle in a trash can and never again take that supplement. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. jason@nospam.com wrote: > I'm > reading an excellent book about statins and am already on a vegan diet and > run or ride a bike 4 miles per day--7 days a week. Good for you! In my opinion, far too many people look for pills to give them the effects of a lifestyle change. Tom Jason, can you send the actual ingredients of the 5 herbs that someone forwarded to you earlier? > Jason, can you send the actual ingredients of the 5 herbs that someone > forwarded to you earlier? Try this site-- http://www.protandim.com/images/protandim/label.jpg If that does not work--repost SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. Are you buying those proprietary blends separately and using them in those concentrations? > Are you buying those proprietary blends separately and using them in > those concentrations? Probably--I have a pill splitter so may cut any pills in half. I already take some of things already. If I take capsules after eating--they don't hurt my stomach. Lots of people take an entire handful of vit., mineral and herb capsules every moring after breakfast. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. Jason - I was thinking about buying this product (Protandim) but noticed there is another product, Mito-GOLD, that claims to be better. Now I'm totally confused. I'd rather just get all the ingredients and buy it myself. What you think about Mito-GOLD and could you send me the ingredient list of Protandim? Thanks Joshua > > >> >There was an ABC show that discussed a new "over the counter" supplement > > >> >called Protandim. I found out today that it's a pill containing about [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. Joshua, Try this site. www.protandim.com/images/protandim/label.jpg > Jason - > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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