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Medical Forum / General / General / June 2005many scientists admit to misconduct
Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct By Rick Weiss, Washington Post Staff Writer Thu Jun 9, 1:00 AM ET http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20050609/tc_washpost/many_scie ntists_admit_to_misconduct Few scientists fabricate results from scratch or flatly plagiarize the work of others, but a surprising number engage in troubling degrees of fact-bending or deceit, according to the first large-scale survey of scientific misbehavior > Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fact-bending or deceit, according to the first large-scale survey of > scientific misbehavior In some ways it can be called fudge the numbers. These folks are placed in an environment where the wonderful past is weighing on them to find ( Better Find) results. The easy stuff is done.... I'd recommend hiatus to clear ones mind and task and then go at it. A luxury these days. But remember what a dirty sink gave mankind. Antibiotics. Dreamer Bill  SignatureI'm about here Long -75.0246 Lat 39.637876 > Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > fact-bending or deceit, according to the first large-scale survey of > scientific misbehavior There is not only conscious fudging but unconscious as well. That's why we have peer review and double blind studies. > > Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > There is not only conscious fudging but unconscious as well. That's why > we have peer review and double blind studies. Peer reveiwed double-blind studies gave us VIOXX (among other similar debacles). Don't trust peer-reviewed double blind studies. The peers have an agenda. It isn't your health: "Snigdha Prakash, "Documents Suggest Merck Tried to Censor Vioxx Critics", NPR, June 9, 2005, Link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4696609 At least 38,000 Americans are believed to have died from taking the pain pill Vioxx before it was withdrawn last year. Drug maker Merck is now facing thousands of lawsuits." Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct By Rick Weiss, Washington Post Staff Writer Thu Jun 9, 1:00 AM ET http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20050609/tc_washpos... Few scientists fabricate results from scratch or flatly plagiarize the work of others, but a surprising number engage in troubling degrees of fact-bending or deceit, according to the first large-scale survey of scientific misbehavior." http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-nih1feb01,1,1055629.story Article on partial resolution of ethics issues, but not full, as of February of this year. "For the last decade, government scientists at the NIH have quietly been allowed to consult for biomedical companies under policies that defenders have said helped attract talented personnel to the agency. Hundreds of scientists took millions of dollars in fees and stock from industry. Most of the payments were hidden from public view, raising questions about the scientists' impartiality in overseeing clinical trials and in making recommendations to doctors for treating patients." > Peer reveiwed double-blind studies gave us VIOXX (among other similar > debacles). Don't trust peer-reviewed double blind studies. The peers > have an agenda. It isn't your health: As requested it will be added to your posting history. We are not to rely on ANY clinical studies now. We will add that to your agenda and it isn't your health. "Robert" <Robertitsme@hotmail.com> wrote in news:45CdnQrMo_sLSjTfRVn- qg@got.net: >> Peer reveiwed double-blind studies gave us VIOXX (among other similar >> debacles). Don't trust peer-reviewed double blind studies. The peers [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > We are not to rely on ANY clinical studies now. We will add that to your > agenda and it isn't your health. Don't trust medicine. Don't trust the FDA. Don't trust Pharma. Don't trust doctors. Don't trust researchers. Don't trust yourself. Don't trust studies. Who lives like this? L. > "Robert" <Robertitsme@hotmail.com> wrote in news:45CdnQrMo_sLSjTfRVn- > qg@got.net: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > L. Question authority, question yourself. My Mantra. Bill SignatureI'm about here Long -75.0246 Lat 39.637876 > > "Robert" <Robertitsme@hotmail.com> wrote in news:45CdnQrMo_sLSjTfRVn- > > qg@got.net: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Bill It is a common brain washing technique that instructs alienation first and foremost. Every cult in the world does it. In order to fill the glass you must empty it first. Once you instill fear of private medical institutions then you can start socialized medicine to it's completion. That includes outlawing private medicine so as not to compete. That means you can not sue the government because it is the government that runs it. That means if you die in line then it is for the common good to provide others a free healthcare but the political elite do not wait in line. We have heard it all before. > > > "Robert" <Robertitsme@hotmail.com> wrote in news:45CdnQrMo_sLSjTfRVn- > > > qg@got.net: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > others a free healthcare but the political elite do not wait in line. > We have heard it all before. Thanks for your coherent response...Whew Bill SignatureI'm about here Long -75.0246 Lat 39.637876 > Peer reveiwed double-blind studies gave us VIOXX VIOXX is an effective drug. The problen is that it causes a slight increase in heart attacks. This small increase is hard to detect with certainty until very large studies are conducted. When a hint of a problem was finally detected, the problem did not lie with the scientists who found the problem, but with company managers who suppressed the studies. > > Peer reveiwed double-blind studies gave us VIOXX > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > problem, but with company managers who suppressed > the studies. People with arthritis are in for a very painful life as options are taken away. NSAIDS have a 25% increase in heart attack also. I guess they need to start a witch hunt with all the hysteria on who covered that up during production. I guess they will have to take them off the market also. The press likes to create sensational stories and put a face on it. to make it emotional. They will interview the neighbors dog to get a story. I guess we still have acetaminophen but then look at this. Hepatology. 2004 Jul;40(1):6-9. Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Comment in: Hepatology. 2004 Jul;40(1):23-6. Hepatology. 2004 Oct;40(4):1021-2; discussion 1022. Acetaminophen and the U.S. Acute Liver Failure Study Group: lowering the risks of hepatic failure. Lee WM. Division of Digestive and Liver Diseases, University of Texas, Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, 75390-9151, USA. William.Lee@utsouthwestern.edu Acetaminophen overdose is the leading cause for calls to Poison Control Centers (>100,000/year) and accounts for more than 56,000 emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and an estimated 458 deaths due to acute liver failure each year. Data from the U.S. Acute Liver Failure Study Group registry of more than 700 patients with acute liver failure across the United States implicates acetaminophen poisoning in nearly 50% of all acute liver failure in this country. Available in many single or combination products, acetaminophen produces more than 1 billion US dollars in annual sales for Tylenol products alone. It is heavily marketed for its safety compared to nonsteroidal analgesics. By enabling self-diagnosis and treatment of minor aches and pains, its benefits are said by the Food and Drug Administration to outweigh its risks. It still must be asked: Is this amount of injury and death really acceptable for an over-the-counter pain reliever? Publication Types: Review Review, Tutorial PMID: 15239078 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ""Scientists say, 'This is nuts,' so they break the rules, and then respect for the rules diminishes," de Vries said. "If scientists feel that the process isn't fair and the rich get richer and the rest get nothing, then perhaps we have to think how we can reallocate resources for science."" > Many Scientists Admit to Misconduct Newsflash! Scientists are human. They are subject to the same pressures and weaknesses as mechanics, doctors, secretaries, etc. What surprises me is that, on average, they seem more honest. Either way tough, the nice thing about science is that dishonesty is always eventually uncovered. (Think: if the equations for gravity are faked, planes and space probes would fall out of the sky. The same is true for just about all areas.) |
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