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Medical Forum / General / General / June 2005Please help! I have sinned.
I know the wages of sin is death. I try to follow the 10 commandments to the letter, and I have perfectly up until 3 weeks ago. 3 weeks ago, I succumbed to temptation and had pre-marital sex with a woman. At 32, I succeeded in being chaste my whole life until this point, but a combination of bad events lead me astray. I lost my job, and in angst went to a bar (First time since my 21 birthday) where I met a woman. I gave into temptation and had premarital sex. When I was fornicating, the condom broke. I was worried, but when nothing happened I forgot about it...Well 3 weeks later I noticed one tiny (about 1-2 millimeter) red dot on the glands of my penis. Obviously I know from listening to christian radio everyday and attending the christian services via Television on Sundays that the Wages of Sin is death. I have accepted the fact that it is possible that my earthly end is near. What I fear is that when I pass on, that I will be in eternal damnation for my sin. I mostly go to church services by television, and I need to get my spiritual life in order and need expert christian advice which is not available through TV and radio. I want your advice on how to really solidify my relationship with Jesus. I have accepted him as my saviour, but is that enough? I also ask for your prayers. I also beg God almighty to cure me via a miracle. I know it is scientific fact that prayer and religious belief in a person . http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0321_Medical_Pros.html I have emailed the Benny Hinn ministries for help. I know his ministry performs miracles greater than what is needed to cure me. Please, moderator, if you can, may you crosspost this article to sci.med? I would like to know how much time I have to get my religious life in order before I succumb to my sin( I gave a description of my symptom above). Religious healing is powerful, as Jesus demonstrated. I am going to allow faith to take its course and if my attonment for my sin is not enough, I accept whatever God decides for me. Thank you. X-no-archive What a great troll. Good news! You will find Jesus. Bad news: your pecker will rot off by next month. > X-no-archive > What a great troll. Good news! You will find Jesus. Bad news: your > pecker will rot off by next month. I thought he went a little too far over the top in a couple of places for it to be a really *great* troll. But I do agree that the guy has potential. HMc "Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote : > I thought he went a little too far over the top in a couple of places > for it to be a really *great* troll. But I do agree that the guy has > potential. I usually fall for trolls, mainly because I have absolutely no clue why anyone would do it. Therefore I tend to take posts at face value. However, on this occasion it took only the first paragraph to see it. So if we're judging by detectability it's by no means the best I've seen, or even one of the better ones. If it didn't fool me, it won't fool anyone. > X-no-archive > What a great troll. Good news! You will find Jesus. Bad news: your > pecker will rot off by next month. Please, this is not a troll!!! I did the x-no-archive because I'm highly embarrassed by what I've done and don't want it to follow me on usenet forever. I don't know whether you are reading this on sci.med or alt.religion.christian. If on alt.christian, tell me how can I get gods forgiveness? If you're on sci.med, what disease does one red dot on the glands 3 weeks after sex signify? How long do I have to live if I only rely on God? (i lost my health insurance when I got laid off 3 weeks ago). This is urgent, please christian folk pray for my recovery! I sent a letter to Benny Hinn's ministeries hopefully they will cure my via TV next week on Sunday. But if I don't make it to Sunday or they don't pray for me, I need back up Christian advice OR sci.med advice on how long I have to live. Please excuse the x-no-archive. It is so it won't follow me forever. > I don't know whether you are reading this on sci.med or > alt.religion.christian. If on alt.christian, tell me how can I get > gods forgiveness? If you're on sci.med, what disease does one red dot > on the glands 3 weeks after sex signify? P.S. The red dot is 1 - 2 millimeters in size. Like a very tiny pimple. The woman in question was very loose since she slept with me on the night I met her. Mike Cox <mikecoxlinux@yahoo.com> wrote : > Please, this is not a troll!!! Okay, I'm going to reply, despite my scepticism, just because you're willing to put the effort in. > I did the x-no-archive because I'm > highly embarrassed by what I've done and don't want it to follow me on > usenet forever. No, you see, what you do is, to avoid this sort of thing 'following you forever', you post under a pseudonym, the more opaque the better. For that matter, I'm wondering if 'Mike Cox' isn't in some clumsy way related to the legendary 'Mike Hunt' beloved of wannabe Bart Simpsons everywhere...? Hmm... Maybe not. But still, assuming your situation was genuine... > I don't know whether you are reading this on sci.med or > alt.religion.christian. If on alt.christian, tell me how can I get > gods forgiveness? If you're on sci.med, what disease does one red dot > on the glands 3 weeks after sex signify? How long do I have to live > if I only rely on God? (i lost my health insurance when I got laid off > 3 weeks ago). ... you wouldn't post this sort of thing to Usenet. If you really were worried, you'd be asking this question of a doctor, not a bunch of strangers on a net forum. And those strangers know it. > This is urgent, please christian folk pray for my recovery! I sent a > letter to Benny Hinn's ministeries hopefully they will cure my via TV > next week on Sunday. But if I don't make it to Sunday or they don't > pray for me, I need back up Christian advice OR sci.med advice on how > long I have to live. But then, as observed, you spoil it with this sort of thing. Cure you via your TV? This is a piss-take, man - it can't be anything else, because nobody, but nobody, could possibly be obtuse enough to believe that any such thing can be done 'via TV'. If it can be done by God then He doesn't need a TV. If it can't then having a TV won't make a difference anyway. The only purpose of TV evangelism shows is to make money. Plus your supposed assumption that you're on death row because of this one symptom, but yet you haven't done the sensible thing and gone to a doctor? It just doesn't add up. Like I said, I'm normally a very easy person to troll. It's beyond me why people feel the need to do it - as if reading and posting to Usenet wasn't enough of a waste of good time anyway. But if you're determined, then like the others have said you have got to learn to tone it down. Subtlety is the key. >I know the wages of sin is death. I try to follow the 10 commandments to > the letter, and I have perfectly up until 3 weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > christian services via Television on Sundays that the Wages of Sin is > death. Would you have felt bad and repented had not you suffered the illness that you now have received?  SignatureDore www.dorewilliamson.com >I know the wages of sin is death. I try to follow the 10 commandments to > the letter, and I have perfectly up until 3 weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Thank you. Mike - Given the possibility of your post possessing a degree of validity (I'm sure you recognize that with so many scams and "come-ons" in these groups skepticism comes rather easily), I find it a little surprising that no one has at least addressed the possibility of sincerity. Scripture teaches forgiveness and divine acceptance on the basis of God's grace. We do not earn it by following the Ten Commandments or programmed outlines of behavior: "By grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves" (Eph. 2:8,9); "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us" (Titus 3:5). In our acceptance of divine forgiveness and acceptance on the basis of grace "through faith," we are then accepted by God on the basis of Christ's having paid our debt for us. This is the meaning of the Cross. Within this frame of reference, we can then live an acceptable life predicated upon the outliving of Christ's through us by agency of the Holy Spirit (Gal. 2:20; 5:22,23 as opposed to the preceding "works of the flesh" as detailed in verses 19-21.) A good place to start is in a sincere appropriation of the publican's prayer of Luke 18:13,14), followed by Paul's outline of believing response as given in Romans 10:9. If you are sincere, the foregoing is good biblical advice; if your post is a "snow job," the foregoing is still good advice. Burl Ratzsch http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/ > Mike - > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved > us" (Titus 3:5). No, scripture teaches that one must REPENT in order to be forgiven. And if you refuse to OBEY the commandments, then you are still in sin, thus being a servant of sin. The children of God repent, and stop sinning. Luke 13:3 except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. KJV Rev 2:5 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. KJV John 8:34 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. KJV Matt 7:19-23 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (SIN) KJV Luke 6:46-7:1 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. KJV 1 John 3:3-10 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. KJV cont > In our acceptance of divine forgiveness and acceptance on the basis of > grace "through faith," we are then accepted by God on the basis of > Christ's having paid our debt for us. This is the meaning of the Cross. No, the meaning of the cross is to provide mankind with the OPPORTUNITY to be forgiven of their sins, IF THEY REPENT. You are NOT forgiven unless you are deeply sorrowful for your sins against God. It is NOT a matter of you "accepting" it, it is a matter of GOD "accepting whether YOU are sincere in your repentance. cont > Within this frame of reference, we can then live an acceptable life > predicated upon the outliving of Christ's through us by agency of the > Holy Spirit (Gal. 2:20; 5:22,23 as opposed to the preceding "works of > the flesh" as detailed in verses 19-21.) No, the only way you live an acceptable life is IF you obey every word from the mouth of God, repent, stop sinning, be pure, holy righteous, sinless and blameless through obedience to the ways and will of God provided in the gospels. If you continue in sin, then you are serving the devil and will be condemned with him. -- Dore www.dorewilliamson.com > Mike - > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Burl Ratzsch > http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/ > No, the only way you live an acceptable life is IF you obey every word > from the mouth of God, repent, stop sinning, be pure, holy righteous, > sinless and blameless through obedience to the ways and will of God > provided in the gospels. That's humans knackered, then. -> No, the only way you live an acceptable life is IF you obey every word -> from the mouth of God, repent, stop sinning, be pure, holy righteous, -> sinless and blameless through obedience to the ways and will of God -> provided in the gospels. - -That's humans knackered, then. Thank goodness the poster you are responding to is mistaken. Rom. 13:9 The commandments, ³Do not commit adultery,² ³Do not murder,² ³Do not steal,² ³Do not covet,² and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: ³Love your neighbor as yourself.² Gal. 5:14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: ³Love your neighbor as yourself.² James 2:8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, ³Love your neighbor as yourself,² you are doing right. Peace, • Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay http://Ninure-Saunders.tk My Yahoo Group http://Ninure.tk Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches http://www.MCCchurch.org The Bible Site - help provide free scripture http://www.thebiblesite.org To send e-mail, remove nohate from address "• Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote in message news:RainbowChristiannohate > Rom. 13:9 The commandments, ³Do not commit adultery,² ³Do not murder,² > ³Do not steal,² ³Do not covet,² and whatever other commandment there may > be, are summed up in this one rule: ³Love your neighbor as yourself.² > > Gal. 5:14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: ³Love your > neighbor as yourself.² And if you love your neighbor, you will NOT commit adultery, murder, steal, or sin against him. But if you LOVE GOD, you will obey every word from His lips, and NOT sin against Him as well. Matt 4:4 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (KJV) Rev 22:14 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. (KJV) John 14:15 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. (KJV) John 14:21 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (KJV) Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. (KJV) Matt 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (SIN) KJV Luke 6:46-49 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and DO not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and DOETH them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. (KJV) Matt 5:48 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. KJV John 12:48 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (KJV) Mark 3:34-35 34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35 For whosoever shall DO the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. (KJV) Mark 10:17-21 17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. 19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. 20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. 21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. (KJV) SignatureDore www.dorewilliamson.com > -> No, the only way you live an acceptable life is IF you obey every word > -> from the mouth of God, repent, stop sinning, be pure, holy righteous, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > To send e-mail, remove nohate from address "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote : > And if you love your neighbor, you will NOT commit adultery, murder, > steal, or sin against him. But if you LOVE GOD, you will obey every [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. > (KJV) [Snip bulk of Bible verses.] Dore, something occurred to me - and maybe I'm just being slow here. If you're Jesus, the returned Christ, here to bring justice to Usenet (and, presumably, eventually the world, when you get round to it), why do you tend to quote the Bible so often? After all, if Christ is back, then the Bible is pretty much irrelevant now. You can speak your own words in the now - why simply parrot words you and your followers used two thousand years ago? > If you're Jesus, the returned Christ, here to bring justice to Usenet > (and, > presumably, eventually the world, when you get round to it), why do you > tend to quote the Bible so often? Who said I was here to bring "justice" to the usenet? I am here to JUDGE mankind and the usenet is merely one of the methods I use to do it. After my judgment is complete, then the destruction comes as in the days of Noah, and when the wicked and sinners are destroyed, then I will RISE to be revealed, and then put down all authority, power and evil, and then bring JUSTICE and the government of God to the earth. First things first. In case you didn't know, I don't have to go by your demands or timelines. Isa 28:9-13 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. KJV Since I JUDGE according to the Word, then I use the Word to those who are being judged, showing them their inadequacies. John 12:48 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. KJV Mal 3:18 18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. KJV They might want to argue with me, but if they CLAIM to believe in the Word of God, then they can't argue with that. I also speak to others for teaching and revelations of the truths of God for the benefit of those who desire to know them. cont > After all, if Christ is back, then the Bible is pretty much irrelevant > now. > You can speak your own words in the now - why simply parrot words you and > your followers used two thousand years ago? Why is the Bible irrelevant now that I have returned, since it is the truths of God, the knowledge of things that were and are to come, and the whole plan of salvation and occurrences for the earth until it's end? As I said, I have returned to JUDGE mankind ON the Word of God, which is truth and will always remain truth. Matt 24:35 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. KJV SignatureDore www.dorewilliamson.com > "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > You can speak your own words in the now - why simply parrot words you and > your followers used two thousand years ago? "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote : > Who said I was here to bring "justice" to the usenet? I am here to > JUDGE mankind and the usenet is merely one of the methods I use to do > it. After my judgment is complete, then the destruction comes as in > the days of Noah, and when the wicked and sinners are destroyed, then > I will RISE to be revealed, and then put down all authority, power and > evil, and then bring JUSTICE and the government of God to the earth. Well, I guess we'll look forward to that, then. more bullshit bible verses from a bullshit religion about their bullshit, non-existant invisible man in the sky > more bullshit bible verses from a bullshit religion about their bullshit, > non-existant invisible man in the sky We don't care what you think. Go to one of your sex perverted newsgroups where YOU fit in, not here where you don't belong. SignatureDore www.dorewilliamson.com > more bullshit bible verses from a bullshit religion about their bullshit, > non-existant invisible man in the sky > more bullshit bible verses from a bullshit religion about their bullshit, > non-existant invisible man in the sky Well said. But look at it this way: look at all the fun they're having slinging bible verses at each other! What but religion could generate such an intense, and therefore pleasurable, ado about nothing? I think God created himself to make our mostly-boring lives interesting. Leonard Signature"Everything that rises must converge" --Flannery O'Connor Dore - I know I am wasting my time, but if the breast-beating petition of the publican, "God be merciful to me a sinner" (Luke 18:13) does not denote repentance, Scripture is then quite lacking in definition of the term. Indeed, Jesus notes that "this man went down to his house justified" (vs. 14), but, of course, what did He know compared to you? Burl Ratzsch http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/ > Dore - > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Indeed, Jesus notes that "this man went down to his house justified" > (vs. 14), but, of course, what did He know compared to you? Of course, the man begging for mercy, IS an act of repentance for he is asking forgiveness for his sins, which when sincerely sorrowful for, are forgiven. NOT repenting is not sincerely caring about the sins, nor begging for mercy. The man was forgiven his sins, because he begged for mercy, in his repentance, therefore was forgiven and was justified. Just for the record, I am the same one who said it in the first place, so I can't compare myself to myself. SignatureDore www.dorewilliamson.com > Dore - > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Burl Ratzsch > http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/ |
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