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Medical Forum / General / General / June 2005Safety of anal intercourse.
How deeply may a woman be safely penetrated during anal intercourse? > How deeply may a woman be safely penetrated during anal intercourse? Anal intercouse is not safe for the woman. I worked with someone several years ago that was once employed in a health clinic that treated AIDs patients. Many of the patients had to wear diapers because the muscles in their anus no longer worked the way they normally work in most people. One of the doctors told him that this was because they had anal intercouse so much that the muscles were damaged and no longer worked. I don't know the results if a woman rarely had anal sex.  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. "Anal intercouse is not safe for the woman. I worked with someone Several years ago who was once employed In a health clinic That treated AIDs patients." ~ PF "O, Tell her Hey ~ ! Belleview, O, yes, we know her, too." ~ Folly "Many of the patients had to wear diapers Because the muscles In their anus no longer worked The way they normally work In most people." ~ PF "Loose lips Sink ships." ~ Twittering "Loose lips lick, Too, but know ~ Plump ripened ones, O, so much better To lick you, too ~ !" ~ Folly "Folly, Behave." ~ Twittering > "Anal intercouse is not safe for the woman. > I worked with someone [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Behave." > ~ Twittering You are copying the style of That Bitch Gertie Stein. O Shame........ Where is thy blush.!..? >How deeply may a woman be safely penetrated during anal intercourse? Just try not to go past the splenic flexure. PF "Safety of anal intercourse ~ How deeply may a woman Be safely penetrated during anal intercourse?" ~ Briggs "I say, Go no more Than 6 ~ 7 centimneters. Hope That helps. O, yes, Astro ~ Lube, to cope." ~ Twittering "... or, If you see Kay, Ask for KY, too." ~ Folly "... O, please, if you see Astrobabe, tell her our legal concerns Need serious attention. Merci." ~ Twittering > "Safety of anal intercourse ~ > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Ask for KY, too." > ~ Folly Does anyone know the address of Linda Lovelace; she might know. "Does anyone know the address of Linda Lovelace; she might know." I am not laughing. And I am sick of jokes. Your ugliness is repugnant. >> "Safety of anal intercourse ~ >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Does anyone know the address of Linda Lovelace; she might know. Linda Lovelace died in 2002 (car crash). -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Are you going to come quietly, or do I have to use earplugs?" -- The Goon Show "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> >>Does anyone know the address of Linda Lovelace; she might know. > > Linda Lovelace died in 2002 (car crash). Then it's one of two places. moo > >How deeply may a woman be safely penetrated during anal intercourse? > > Just try not to go past the splenic flexure. Excuse my ignorance, but what's that? > > >How deeply may a woman be safely penetrated during anal intercourse? > > > > Just try not to go past the splenic flexure. > > Excuse my ignorance, but what's that? It's my guess that they person was just trying to be funny. I have taken college courses related to biology and never heard such words. It's my guess that they the typical woman will let you know if she is feeling pain. In fact, you should tell her to let you know if she feels any pain. If she tells you that she is feeling pain--that is how far she can be safely penetrated. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. jason@nospam.com wrote: > In article <42938BF2.481932B5@ANTISPAMbtinternet.com.invalid>, Jim Spriggs > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It's my guess that they person was just trying to be funny. I have taken > college courses related to biology and never heard such words. Then you might want to retake that part of the course relating to the colon. For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec SignatureAnonymous ----------------------------------------------------- Work harder. Millions on benefits are relying on you! ----------------------------------------------------- Safety of anal intercourse ~ ? Who's askin' us ~ ? Who's fuckin' us ~ ? ______ Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------- Work harder. Millions on benefits are relying on you! ----------------------------------------------------- Twittering ----------------------------------------------------- I'm Tired. Exhaustion Is a State We Live! ----------------------------------------------------- ~ * ~ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, please bring him home! I got Leon a brand-new bone. _________________ http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo > For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec Thanks---there are probably lots of medical terms that I have not seen before. I learned another such term last week--Hyperkalemia. It simply means higher than normal levels of potassium in the bloodstream. It would make more sense to me if the word was hyperpotassium. I thought the person was joking because he should have defined the words or term when he made the post or at least the following day when the original poster asked him to define the term. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >It would >make more sense to me if the word was hyperpotassium. That would only be true if the scientific symbol for patassium wasn't "K", from the Latin "Kalium". The term "hyperkalemia" is one which is used by scientific types, so it is not unexpected that they would use a scientific term. Best, Bob Robert A. Fink, M. D. Neurological Surgery 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA 510-849-2555 ********************************** NOTE: The material above is not "medical advice". Medical advice can only be given after an in-person contact between doctor and patient. ********************************** >> For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec > >Thanks---there are probably lots of medical terms that I have not seen >before. I learned another such term last week--Hyperkalemia. It's little gems like this that illustrate why nobody should ever take medical advice from jason. I mean, *I* knew the term and I'm not a doctor and I never had any sort of medical education. Jason claims he has a medical background, but he didn't know the term. Draw your own conclusions. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor > >> For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty > clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor David, I have never claimed to be a doctor or have any degrees related to medicine. However, I have a M.A. degree and have taken various courses related to various medical problems. I have worked with doctors and nurses as they treated sick people. David, are you a doctor? Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >I have worked with doctors and nurses >as they treated sick people. And you heard the word "hyperkalemia" just last week? Bullshit. >>I have worked with doctors and nurses >>as they treated sick people. > >And you heard the word "hyperkalemia" just last week? > >Bullshit. Hearing != Listening PF >> >In article <4294cfe6@212.67.96.135>, "Anonymous" <anonymous@nospam.net> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >related to various medical problems. I have worked with doctors and nurses >as they treated sick people. David, are you a doctor? Jason, this is just another example of your low level of cluefulness. Take another look at what I wrote. See the part where it says "I'm not a doctor"? -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor I just hope the FBI takes complaints seriously. > >> For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's little gems like this that illustrate why nobody should ever take > medical advice from jason. Don't worry. I take advise from newsgroups (not just this one) only so far as I can check it against other sources. Thanks to everyone who replied to my op. > > >> For Splenic Flexure of Transverse Colon see http://tinyurl.com/9mvec > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks to everyone who replied to my op. Jim, Thanks for the support. I am a lot like you. Just because someone gives me medical advice in a newsgroup, I don't take it unless I can confirm it from other sources. I hope that all people do the same as us. Jason. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> > >In article <4294cfe6@212.67.96.135>, "Anonymous" > <anonymous@nospam.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > from other sources. I hope that all people do the same as us. > Jason. Why dosn't someone ask an enema nurse? > >> > >In article <4294cfe6@212.67.96.135>, "Anonymous" > > <anonymous@nospam.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Why dosn't someone ask an enema nurse? Great--I was in a grocery store and noticed the name label on the cashier. It said, "Front Manager". I asked her what the manager of the workers at the loading dock at the REAR of the store was called. She laughed and said that it was NOT "REAR MANAGER". SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >Thanks---there are probably lots of medical terms that I have not seen >before. I learned another such term last week--Hyperkalemia. Page 2 is chock full of new words. >I thought the person >was joking because he should have defined the words or term when he made >the post or at least the following day when the original poster asked him >to define the term. Anyone who uses the word wouldn't expect that you need them to define it for you. There are these things called books. And search engines. Marvelous inventions. You should try them sometime. > >Thanks---there are probably lots of medical terms that I have not seen > >before. I learned another such term last week--Hyperkalemia. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you. There are these things called books. And search engines. Marvelous > inventions. You should try them sometime. I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know what every medication is used for or the meaning of every medical term. I'll consider buying a medical dictionary so that various people don't have to get upset. I did notice that the best response was from a doctor that did not criticize me but actually explained why the word is hyperkalemia instead of hyperpotassium. He was a true professional unlike some of the other people that posted their opinions. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know >what every medication is used for or the meaning of every medical term. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >hyperkalemia instead of hyperpotassium. He was a true professional unlike >some of the other people that posted their opinions. Fine, then why don't you provide us with a list of words you don't know but are willing to discuss as if you do. We'll do your homework for you and show you where to find the definitions. This should save all of us a lot of time. jason@nospam.com wrote: > I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know > what every medication is used for or the meaning of every medical term. > I'll consider buying a medical dictionary so that various people don't > have to get upset I think it's more that people are shocked that someone who doesn't understand basic medical terms (or doesn't have enough sense to look them up) is giving out medical advice to people who may assume that he knows what he's talking about. > jason@nospam.com wrote: > > I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > them up) is giving out medical advice to people who may assume that he > knows what he's talking about. It's great to be part of a newsgroup where everyone is a doctor or knows the meaning of all medical terms and knows what every medication is used for. It's a great place to get advice. I have noticed that no one responds to some of the people that request advice. Now I know the reason--people are afraid that people like you will tell them they should not try help people unless they are doctors. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> jason@nospam.com wrote: >> > I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >are afraid that people like you will tell them they should not try help >people unless they are doctors. As usual, Jason, you have missed the point entirely. But I'll spell it out for you: Don't give medical advice when you don't know what the hell you are talking about. In your case, Jason, that's 100% of the time. You give reams of bad advice, and you're too ignorant to KNOW that it's bad advice. Stop doing it. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor > >> jason@nospam.com wrote: > >> > I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty > clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor David, Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of us that are not doctors or nurses should ever give medical advice to people in any newsgroup. While working with doctors and nurses, I have seen them refer to the PDR many times. I also look at the PDR many times to figure out the information written on charts. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. jason@nospam.com wrote: > Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of > us that are not doctors or nurses should ever give medical advice to > people in any newsgroup. You say that as if it's a bad thing. > jason@nospam.com wrote: > > Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of > > us that are not doctors or nurses should ever give medical advice to > > people in any newsgroup. > > You say that as if it's a bad thing. No--it's not a bad thing. However, as you may know, most doctors and nurses are really busy with their jobs and they don't have the time needed to spend several hours each day helping people on newsgroups. I have a great amount of respect for the doctors and nurses in this newsgroup that do take time out of their busy lives to help people in newsgroups like this one. That means people that are NOT doctors or nurses do what we can to help people in various newsgroups. I respect those people. I don't have any respect at all for subcribers that instead of helping people with their knowledge visit newsgroups in order criticize those of us that do try to help people. Instead of being a critic--they should just post their own advice. The posters are intelligent enough to figure out the best solution. They don't need or want to start battles with subscribers. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. jason@nospam.com wrote: > No--it's not a bad thing. However, as you may know, most doctors and > nurses are really busy with their jobs and they don't have the time needed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > own advice. The posters are intelligent enough to figure out the best > solution. They don't need or want to start battles with subscribers. That's a fair point Jason - you're right, I was being rude and I apologise. I think you'd ruffle a lot fewer feathers if you put a "I am not a doctor" disclaimer in each post. I'm a med student, and I wouldn't dream of speaking with the authority that you have for some recent posts: I know enough about my knowledge to know how limited it is, and how difficult it is to apply what I do have over the Internet without being able to see the person. In most cases, I think that poor advice, no matter how well-intentioned, is worse than no advice at all. > jason@nospam.com wrote: > > No--it's not a bad thing. However, as you may know, most doctors and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > In most cases, I think that poor advice, no matter how well-intentioned, > is worse than no advice at all. Tom, Thanks for an intelligent response. I hope that you succeed in becoming a doctor. You may be right about letting people know that I am not a doctor. I believe that other subscribers should follow this same policy and you should let those people know of this policy if they fail to do it--not just me. I'll try to remember--esp. if it involves a person that has serious medical problems. One of the problems that I have noticed in this and other medical newsgroups is that some of the people that post problems never get any advice from anyoone. One such person posted their problem in several different medical newsgroups and none of the subscribers provided any help. I decided to tell the person my opinion and refer them to their own doctor. The following day--there must have been at least 4 subscribers that criticized the advice that I gave to the person. I later wondered why those same people did not give the person any advice during the prior three days. It was my impression that they don't care about trying to help people--instead they really get some sort of thrill out of criticizing people. If they have medical knowledge--they should use the medical knowledge to help people instead of making use of their medical knowledge to criticize people. Those kind of subscribers need to find another hobby or use their medical knowledge to help people. It's my guess that many of those subscribers are afraid to post responses that help people since they know that other subscribers like the ones mentioned above will criticize them. George Will once stated: "It's easier to be a critic than it is to write a book". I say--"It's easier to criticize me than it is to provide medical advice that helps people". Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > I later wondered why >those same people did not give the person any advice during the prior [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >knowledge to help people instead of making use of their medical knowledge >to criticize people. Nobody, not even doctors, should give advice in an Internet Newsgroup. True medical advice is only of value if it follows a direct, face-to-face discussion between doctor and patient and a hands-on medical examination. "Off the cuff" medical advice is generally worthless and can easily lead to grief. Best, Bob Robert A. Fink, M. D. Neurological Surgery 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA 510-849-2555 ********************************** NOTE: The material above is not "medical advice". Medical advice can only be given after an in-person contact between doctor and patient. ********************************** > > I later wondered why > >those same people did not give the person any advice during the prior [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA > 510-849-2555 Dr. Fink, Thanks for your post. Believe it or not, I agree with you. I always try to remember to refer people to their doctors. In some cases--if it's a very minor problem such as poison oak, I might leave out the advice. I only wish that we had more doctors like yourself that are willing to help people or at least refer them to their own doctors in their newsgroup posts. I was recently shocked when a subscriber actually told a person that believed that they may have had a stroke that it was a muscle spasm. How do you feel when someone gives that sort of advice to a person? Would you ever do anything like that? Thanks again, Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> jason@nospam.com wrote: >> > Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >own advice. The posters are intelligent enough to figure out the best >solution. They don't need or want to start battles with subscribers. Once again, as usual, wrong. At least in the sense that what you post is, all too often, not good advice, but you don't know that. The most egregious example I can think of right now is your amazingly bad suggestion to one poster that they should go to a health food store and as a clerk for advice. Not only is that a really dumb idea, but you don't even *realize* it's a dumb idea. I realize that you're trying to be helpful, which is commendable, but you are simply not equipped for the job. If the people who ask questions here were really knowledgable (which most are not), they wouldn't need to ask the questions in the first place. And since you post with an air of authority, someone might well be fooled into thinking you know what you are talking about. The only disclaimer on your postings that would really solve the problem would be something like "I amd not a doctor, or any sort of trained medical professional, and I have no idea what I'm talking about, even when it sounds like I do." By the way, it's not necessary for someone to be a trained medical professional to give sound information here. We used to have a fellow by the name of Steve Dyer, who wasn't a doctor, but I think he slept with a PDR and medical journals under his pillow. He knew a lot about pharmacology and I'm sorry he's not here any more, as I liked his style. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor > >> jason@nospam.com wrote: > >> > Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty > clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor If you are not a doctor, I hope that you will also tell people in your posts: "I am not a doctor, or any sort of trained medical professional, and I have no idea what I'm talking about, even when it sounds like I do." If everyone that is not a doctor posted such a statement after their advice--none of the patients would ever be confused. In addition, unless we have lots of wonderful doctors and nurses that subscribe to this newsgroup--not very many people will ever get any advice from anyone. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >If you are not a doctor, I hope that you will also tell people in your posts: >"I am not a doctor, or any sort of trained medical professional, and I >have no idea what I'm talking about, even when it sounds like I do." You just refuse to "get it," don't you? David doesn't need a disclaimer like that as you do. Unlike you, his track record is solid and he clearly has knowledge and good judgment on when and what to answer, and when and what not to answer. On the occasions David gives medical advice at all -- which is rare, just as it is for most of us -- he does so only when it's obvious enough to be answered here on a newsgroup, and only when he's sure of his facts. That's probably the primary reason you see questions go unanswered -- their question can't be answered "safely." As Dr. Fink pointed out, providing medical advice via the internet is inherently flawed to begin with. Most of us recognize that so we do so only rarely, and only when we feel it's "safe." Yes, some of us do answer on occasion because we feel it's important and we're sure the answer we're giving is correct. Sometimes we can put someone's mind at ease, or sometimes do the opposite and urge them to seek help immediately, or maybe offer some insight they haven't considered, but I think you'll find it's rare that such advice is given without qualification and a warning to seek professional medical advice. >In addition, unless >we have lots of wonderful doctors and nurses that subscribe to this >newsgroup--not very many people will ever get any advice from anyone. To quote a previous poster.... You say that like it's a bad thing. This is not alt.support.med. This is sci.med. Please try to comprehend the difference. It was never intended for medical advice and still isn't, but if you insist on doing so, you damn well better get your facts straight or you should be prepared to have a new orifice drilled in your backside every time you screw up. We may not be good at answering every question, but we're very good at spotting bad answers. And, if you consider that it's sci.med rather than alt.support.med, that's exactly as it should be. > >If you are not a doctor, I hope that you will also tell people in your posts: > >"I am not a doctor, or any sort of trained medical professional, and I [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > And, if you consider that it's sci.med rather than alt.support.med, that's > exactly as it should be. I might join the critics instead of trying to help people. Since so many people enjoy that hobby--it must be lots of fun. If I don't enjoy the hobby--I'll try to find another hobby. I'll just tell the kind people that take time out of their busy days to help people such things as:: "You are stupid--you don't know anything about medical issues--you should not have tried to help this person since you are not a doctor." It must be a wonderful hobby since several people in this newsgroup including yourself seem to enjoy your hobby so much. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >you should not have >tried to help this person since you are not a doctor." No one cares if you're a doctor, Jason. What we care about is whether you have a clue what you're talking about. Wrong advice is worse than no advice. Keep that in mind the next time you want to "help." >I might join the critics instead of trying to help people. Given the quality of help you're offering, that could be an improvement. However, your low level of knowledge strongly suggests that you wouldn't be any more effective as a critic than you are as an advocate. >Since so many >people enjoy that hobby--it must be lots of fun. If I don't enjoy the >hobby--I'll try to find another hobby. I'll just tell the kind people that >take time out of their busy days to help people such things as:: "You are >stupid--you don't know anything about medical issues--you should not have >tried to help this person since you are not a doctor." Ah, Jason, your consistent level of cluelessness is an oasis of stability in an ever-changing world. Nobody has said that you have to be a doctor to give good information. What you do need is knowledge. This is, alas, a commodity in which you are woefully lacking. >It must be a wonderful hobby since several people in this newsgroup >including yourself seem to enjoy your hobby so much. You'll never know. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor > >I might join the critics instead of trying to help people. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > You'll never know. David, In the future, I will try to be more careful related to my posts and try to remember to tell people that I am not a doctor and am not a medical expert. A medical doctor told me that I implied that I was a doctor or medical expert in some of my posts. I did not mean to do that. I always tried to remember to refer people to their own doctors when they had serious problems. Thanks for letting me know about some of my errors. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> >I might join the critics instead of trying to help people. >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >tried to remember to refer people to their own doctors when they had >serious problems. Thanks for letting me know about some of my errors. You're welcome. I must have missed your being rebuked for having implied you were a doctor. I don't think I ever saw you do that, though you did sound much too certain in some of the advice you gave. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor > >> >I might join the critics instead of trying to help people. > >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > David, I did not actually tell people that I was a doctor. The person that I was referring to explained to me that I (like you also wrote) "did sound much too certain in some of the advice that I gave". In other words, I did not say that I was a doctor--just "implied" that I was a doctor or medical expert. If I actually tell people in future posts that I am not a doctor--that should solve the problem--I just hope that I don't forget. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >If I actually tell people in future posts that I am not a >doctor--that should solve the problem-- No, it won't solve the problem. The problem isn't whether you're a doctor or not, the problem is your answers are extremely naive and just plain wrong. Read more, discuss more, ask questions more, and offer advice less. > >If I actually tell people in future posts that I am not a > >doctor--that should solve the problem-- > > No, it won't solve the problem. The problem isn't whether you're a doctor > or not, the problem is your answers are extremely naive and just plain > wrong. Read more, discuss more, ask questions more, and offer advice less. Carey, I am trying to do that. I learned some excellent information by reading a book that was written by Don Colbert, M.D. The title of the book is "Toxic Relief". I hope that you will do the same thing that you advised me to do--none of us ever stop learning until after we die. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> >> jason@nospam.com wrote: >> >> > Are you a doctor or nurse? If not--if we use your line of logic--none of [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >professional, and I have no idea what I'm talking about, even when it >sounds like I do." Nope. Because I won't post on subjects I know nothing about. If I post something, I may be wrong, but I at least tell you where I got my info, and in any case, I'm not typically giving medical advice. You, on the other hand, *do* give medical advice, usually bad advice, and you don't even bother to check on simple things (like your bollixed post about Rogaine -- you didn't even get the *name* right, for pity's sake, you didn't know what it cost, etc etc etc). >If everyone that is not a doctor posted such a statement after their >advice--none of the patients would ever be confused. In addition, >unless we have lots of wonderful doctors and nurses that subscribe to >this newsgroup--not very many people will ever get any advice from >anyone. Which is as it should be -- diagnosis over the net is usually impossible, except perhaps in a negative sense ("No, headache is not usually a symptom of athlete's foot.") -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor >> >> jason@nospam.com wrote: >> >> > I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> advice, and you're too ignorant to KNOW that it's bad advice. Stop >> doing it. >Are you a doctor or nurse? As I told you twice in other threads, Jason, I'm not. Apparently, you are too stupid to have understood that. >If not--if we use your line of logic--none of >us that are not doctors or nurses should ever give medical advice to >people in any newsgroup. As usual, you are wrong. The point is only that YOU should not -- because you are too ignorant to do it. I'm not the only person to tell you this, by the way. I don't generally give medical advice on these newsgroups anyway. >While working with doctors and nurses, I have >seen them refer to the PDR many times. I also look at the PDR many times >to figure out the information written on charts. How marvelous. If only you had even the slightest clue as to what you were reading, you might be of some value But you aren't. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor Tom Salls <noaddress@nope.com> wrote in part: >jason@nospam.com wrote: >> I now realize that some people are really shocked when people don't know [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >them up) is giving out medical advice to people who may assume that he >knows what he's talking about. Actually, anyone with any science background at all (i.e., periodic table) would recognize a term like hyperkalemia -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA |
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