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Skull Xray Diagnosis

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Swinky - 13 May 2005 02:56 GMT
Hello everyone,
I am providing a link to skull xrays in hopes that maybe someone can
offer a possible diagnosis. If they look normal or abnormal that would
help also. Thank you very much for your input.
Swinky
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/swinky00/my_photos

Also if you need any additonal info I will try to provide it.
Jeff - 13 May 2005 14:39 GMT
> Hello everyone,
> I am providing a link to skull xrays in hopes that maybe someone can
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>
> Also if you need any additonal info I will try to provide it.

We can't really tell. We don't know your history or the reason why you had
the skull X-Rays. Ask the ordering physician.

Jeff
Swinky - 14 May 2005 06:24 GMT
I'm trying to get an opinion if any type of pathology may exist. The
front view on the right side below the ear has a feature that looks
like it's not a normal part of the human skull to me. Also the areas
around the ears seem to be diseased, but I'm not an expert. I'm relying
on the expertise of this group to give me some opinions. Thank you.
Swinky
PF Riley - 15 May 2005 04:24 GMT
>I'm trying to get an opinion if any type of pathology may exist. The
>front view on the right side below the ear has a feature that looks
>like it's not a normal part of the human skull to me. Also the areas
>around the ears seem to be diseased, but I'm not an expert. I'm relying
>on the expertise of this group to give me some opinions. Thank you.
>Swinky

How about the expertise of a radiologist instead of the numbskulls on
this newsgroup, and how about giving him the benefit of a CT scan
rather than archaic skull films?

For what it's worth, it looks to me like you just have robust
pneumatization of your mastoid air cells.

PF
Howard McCollister - 15 May 2005 04:46 GMT
>>I'm trying to get an opinion if any type of pathology may exist. The
>>front view on the right side below the ear has a feature that looks
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> this newsgroup, and how about giving him the benefit of a CT scan
> rather than archaic skull films?

I agree. Who gets skull films anymore these days? I mean, what's the point?

Skull xrays are notoriously difficult to read, and especially so when we're
talking about low resolution jpegs. AFAIK, there aren't any radiologists
that post on this newsgroup, and even if there were, I can' see them trying
to make a diagnosis from those films, especially without any clinical
history.

HMc
Emma Chase VanCott - 15 May 2005 14:35 GMT
: >I'm trying to get an opinion if any type of pathology may exist. The
: >front view on the right side below the ear has a feature that looks
: >like it's not a normal part of the human skull to me. Also the areas
: >around the ears seem to be diseased, but I'm not an expert. I'm relying
: >on the expertise of this group to give me some opinions. Thank you.
: >Swinky

: How about the expertise of a radiologist instead of the numbskulls on
: this newsgroup, and how about giving him the benefit of a CT scan
: rather than archaic skull films?

: For what it's worth, it looks to me like you just have robust
: pneumatization of your mastoid air cells.

: PF

*smile*
PF Riley - 14 May 2005 17:02 GMT
>Hello everyone,
> I am providing a link to skull xrays in hopes that maybe someone can
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Also if you need any additonal info I will try to provide it.

No photos are available  

 Sorry, swinky00 has not enabled any public albums in their account.
Swinky - 14 May 2005 22:01 GMT
Hi, I think the yahoo server is having some problems, sometimes I click
the link and the photos display and other times it says they are not
available. Hopefully this problem will get fixed.
Swinky
Emma Chase VanCott - 15 May 2005 14:44 GMT
: Hi, I think the yahoo server is having some problems, sometimes I click
: the link and the photos display and other times it says they are not
: available. Hopefully this problem will get fixed.
: Swinky

What do you hope to see with a skull xray?

As I understand it, Soft tissue (e.g. brain) does
not really show on x-ray. (As many people who have had "invisible" painful
conditions well know.)

Even glass does not show on an Xray!

The imaging just doesn't work.

So, unless you have a Bullet, some big hunk of Calcified
mass, it is unlikely that much will show.

I'd imagine a cranial Xray might be done for a suspected skull Fx?

That is why doctors will order MRI, MRA, CT, PET, SPECT scans, etc.

Also, remember that these tests i've listed above also use CONTRAST
MEDIA...or Tagged material, to make the problem area SHOW UP on the film.

I'm not surprised that using Xray imaging is useless for whatever you are
seeking.

What were you hoping to see?

Emma
:)
PF Riley - 15 May 2005 19:18 GMT
>As I understand it, Soft tissue (e.g. brain) does
>not really show on x-ray. (As many people who have had "invisible" painful
>conditions well know.)
>
>Even glass does not show on an Xray!

Yes it does. Glass is made out of silicates, and is radio-opaque.

PF
Swinky - 16 May 2005 00:36 GMT
Some of my symptoms are the right ear canal is completly stenosed,
shut, the left is almost shut. I have chronic tinnitus in both
ears..extremely bad. I have had a huge reaction to efudex cream on my
head, face, throat, neck and scalp. I have had other imaging done,
spect, ct, mri..and have no definitive diagnosis.
Swinky
PF Riley - 17 May 2005 05:45 GMT
>Some of my symptoms are the right ear canal is completly stenosed,
>shut, the left is almost shut. I have chronic tinnitus in both
>ears..extremely bad. I have had a huge reaction to efudex cream on my
>head, face, throat, neck and scalp. I have had other imaging done,
>spect, ct, mri..and have no definitive diagnosis.
>Swinky

Then why in the world would you think someone on here would figure out
what's wrong with you with no medical history, no physical examination
-- just a set of skull X-rays>

PF
Swinky - 17 May 2005 14:57 GMT
I didn't expect anyone here to determine the causes of any
abnormalities on the skull xrays. I was only trying to ellicit opions
on whether there are any abnormailities. If you read these film would
you descibe them as normal?
Swinky
Howard McCollister - 17 May 2005 17:24 GMT
>I didn't expect anyone here to determine the causes of any
> abnormalities on the skull xrays. I was only trying to ellicit opions
> on whether there are any abnormailities. If you read these film would
> you descibe them as normal?
> Swinky

That's the point. No one here can describe them as anything. Other than
"robust pneumatization of the mastoid air cells", it appears that no one
here has any opinion at all on your xrays. It would be absolutely
irresponsible for any doctor here to declare them normal.

HMc
Swinky - 18 May 2005 09:07 GMT
Do you see any signs of bony destruction on the temperal bones or the
petrous portion?
Swinky
Howard McCollister - 18 May 2005 14:27 GMT
> Do you see any signs of bony destruction on the temperal bones or the
> petrous portion?
> Swinky

That's a diagnosis best made by CT scan. What did the CT show? What did the
radiologist say?

HMc
Swinky - 18 May 2005 21:28 GMT
I'm just using the Xray scans at face value, the other information
would be secondhand.
Swinky
dcholiman@ev1.net - 19 May 2005 08:25 GMT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Swinky,
     Steer clear of CAT scans of the brain or skull!
I don't know if CT means CAT, but I do know that
my mom developed neuroblastoma from CAT
radiation.
      Sounds to me like you are having  major
side effects from a topical prescription OR a major
systemic response to an infection.  My guess is that
a doctor would first give you some sort of antibiotic
after canceling those allergenic physics.
Cheers from the Wacko Quacko...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert A. Fink, M. D. - 19 May 2005 23:55 GMT
>but I do know that
>my mom developed neuroblastoma from CAT
>radiation.

Highly unlikely.  The amount of radiation received from a CT scan is
less than that received by people living at high altitude (say in
Denver) for a few months.

BTW, it is rather rare for an adult to get a neuroblastoma.
Neuroblastoma is almost always a tumor of children.

Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street  Suite 222
Berkeley, CA  94704-2636  USA
510-849-2555

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NOTE:  The material above is not "medical
advice".  Medical advice can only be
given after an in-person contact between
doctor and patient.
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PF Riley - 20 May 2005 04:09 GMT
>       Sounds to me like you are having  major
>side effects from a topical prescription OR a major
>systemic response to an infection.  My guess is that
>a doctor would first give you some sort of antibiotic
>after canceling those allergenic physics.

Oh, yes, that's always a good idea. Just treat nonspecific symptoms of
auditory canal "stenosis" and tinnitus with "some sort of antibiotic"
just in case there might be an "infection" some where. That's good
medicine!

PF
 
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