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Police abandon addict to her death in cold January

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habshi - 20 Apr 2005 10:44 GMT
    The wages of drugs are death and are mainly due to boredom.
1. Pay all school children a scholarship of $50 a month provided they
get more than 50% in ten gcse subjects
2. Cold turkey works the best as in Singapore , where the addicts are
put in prison and they get the confidence they can survive without
drugs .The point is that IT WORKS  and is kinder for addicts if their
lives are changed.

People who get caught with small amounts of drugs are not hanged, but
they are sentenced to harsh rehabilitation programs. In Singapore,
rehabilitation is a method of punishment, not a method of curing a
medical problem. According to Dr. Ong Tech Hong in Drug Abuse in
Singapore: "Drug abuse is a social and behavioural problem and not a
medical issue. Drug abusers are responsible for their own drug-seeking
behavioural problem, and therefore for their own change for the
better."19   Conditions during rehabilitation range from rough to
severe. While a person is undergoing treatment and rehabilitation, no
person should supply inmates with liquor, tobacco, drugs, money,
clothing, provisions, and so on, without first obtaining permission
from the proper authority.20  Those determined to be physically able
to handle it are detoxified with the "cold turkey" method. The
detoxification by "cold turkey" treatment was adopted as it was felt
that the traumatic experience of "cold turkey" or detoxification would
serve as a deterrent to ex-drug-takers going back to drugs.21

    guardian.co.uk
excerpt
The trial heard that Ms Wood was clearly confused after her arrest in
Louth, Lincolnshire, where the "shoplifting expedition" was allegedly
planned. She behaved oddly and told one officer that she had flown to
the town from Grimsby in an aircraft.

She was taken to the force boundary by the two constables on the
orders of Sgt Hickinbottom, after being released from Skegness police
station without charge. Peter Carter QC, for Sgt Hickinbottom, said
the sergeant had given careful consideration to dropping her off
somewhere with light and shelter. There was a garage and a callbox
near the spot, but she appeared to have wandered in a state of
confusion into the field. Her body was found a month later within
sight of the A16 where she had been left.

Wood's mother Joan Call, 48, said outside the court: "We are saddened
that despite this we still do not know why Michelle had to die."
Selene Cordi - 22 Apr 2005 09:00 GMT
Not sure what you are trying to say here, but it it is certainly spoken
like a person who has never had to struggle with addiction.
tech27 - 23 Apr 2005 05:46 GMT
Who cares about addicts? Okay, people who BECOME addicted to some substance
is one thing, but those who actively go out and seek drugs like heroin,
speed, etc. -f.ck 'em

All of these addicts should be tattooed with a "Do Not Resucite" on their
foreheads.

> Not sure what you are trying to say here, but it it is certainly spoken
> like a person who has never had to struggle with addiction.
Carey Gregory - 23 Apr 2005 07:02 GMT
>Who cares about addicts? Okay, people who BECOME addicted to some substance
>is one thing, but those who actively go out and seek drugs like heroin,
>speed, etc. -f.ck 'em

Which drugs are the ones people BECOME addicted to without actively seeking
them?  
John Que - 24 Apr 2005 08:49 GMT
> >Who cares about addicts? Okay, people who BECOME addicted to some substance
> >is one thing, but those who actively go out and seek drugs like heroin,
> >speed, etc. -f.ck 'em
>
> Which drugs are the ones people BECOME addicted to without actively seeking
> them?

There those drugs given by prescription. Patients seek
relief. Doctors have drugs. The pain drives
the patient to seek relief. And for some when
the drug is given a bit too long, the result
is addiction and desire.

Second, there are those addictive drugs forced
on an captive persons such as on females
trapped in the sex slave trade or the children
soldiers of the Asian and African lands to
render them more dependent on their
masters.

---JQ

  " The darkness is all around.
   The darkness proclaims itself to be light.
   The light is not in sight.
   As the light has had the insight to have taken flight."
                       "The Exile of Earth, 2501 New Common Era
                         by Chandra Shankar."
Selene Cordi - 24 Apr 2005 06:50 GMT
I can't say I've met many people who have - oops, slipped and fell and
BECOME addicted to something.  There is usually an excuse (yes, I said
excuse) or even some form of a reason if you use your empathy button to
"explain" the situation...or at least how it started.  However, if we are
splitting hairs, what is the difference between (and I mean literally, here)
alcohol and cigarettes and heroin, speed, etc.  
I'm not advocating that people in these situations are super-great members
of society..I'm only saying that they should not be put out to die like
dogs in an alley.  Oh, wait...someone would take the dog in.

Also, just as a little aside...I don't care what you are or are not
addicted to, you're not going to get far with your last directives being
""Do Not Resucite."  Tattooed or not.
outrider@despammed.com - 25 Apr 2005 06:40 GMT
> Who cares about addicts? Okay, people who BECOME addicted to some substance
> is one thing, but those who actively go out and seek drugs like heroin,
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> > --
> > Message posted via http://www.medkb.com

Addiction is an illness.

Please explain why your addiction should be deserving of our interest
and sympathy but not theirs.

Zee
dcholiman@ev1.net - 26 Apr 2005 05:53 GMT
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In the case of the U.K. woman addict who wandered
away from the call box into a field and was found dead
a few days later....
In Houston (Texas) you have a right to refuse help (EMS)
if you are (1) not a threat to yourself such as sitting or
lying peacefully on a sidewalk (2) not a threat to others
such as sitting or lying in a street where you block traffic.
If there is more than one complaint about you, then the
coppers may haul you in as a public nuisance.
David H
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Carey Gregory - 29 Apr 2005 07:25 GMT
>In Houston (Texas) you have a right to refuse help (EMS)
>if you are (1) not a threat to yourself such as sitting or
>lying peacefully on a sidewalk (2) not a threat to others
>such as sitting or lying in a street where you block traffic.
>If there is more than one complaint about you, then the
>coppers may haul you in as a public nuisance.

Sitting and lying on sidewalks does tend to be a public nuisance.  And doing
so in streets is definitely a threat to yourself and others.

You have a right to refuse help (EMS and all other forms) as long as you are
a mentally competent adult.

So I guess I don't understand what your complaint is.  
dcholiman@ev1.net - 01 May 2005 06:21 GMT
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I was not complaining, only replying to another
post.  The poster was "habshi."
David H
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Carey Gregory - 01 May 2005 07:03 GMT
>I was not complaining, only replying to another
>post.  The poster was "habshi."

Handy tip:  Killfile habshi.
 
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