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Medical Forum / General / General / April 2005snore subject?
Hello is the this an acceptable group to ask for cures for snorers? Is there some other groups that would be better? Thanks > Hello is the this an acceptable group to ask for cures for snorers? Is > there some other groups that would be better? > > Thanks zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......*cough* uhh...yeah...fire away!!!!!1 ok, here goes ! I Snore. LOUDLY. (or so my neighbors tell me !) My Doc refered me to a sleep disorder specialists. They recomended i wear this contrpation on my face at night. Fine, "how long?" I asked. As long as i want to sleep without snoring. Good God ! I don't think my wife would like sleeping in the same bed as Darth Vader ! That was some time ago. I never went back for the 'fitting'. I'm sorry but, why didn't the Doc recomend laser or RF work on my throat? Isn't that effective? Is it because I am on an HMO plan? My eomploer has both. I'll go prefered if that will allow the throat approach. I'd like to hear fromn other snorers that have found relief. What method was it? I sleep on the couch most of the time because I want to let my wife sleep. But to me, that is terrible. We should be sleeping together. HELP ! and... thanks for any input. Rich > ok, here goes ! > > I Snore. LOUDLY. (or so my neighbors tell me !) Oh yeah? My neighbors across the street MOVED to get away from my snoring! > My Doc refered me to a sleep disorder specialists. They recomended i > wear this contrpation on my face at night. Fine, "how long?" I asked. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I'm sorry but, why didn't the Doc recomend laser or RF work on my > throat? Isn't that effective? Is it because I am on an HMO plan? They weren't recommended because they don't work. Period. You were prescribed a CPAP or BiPAP, meaning that you were (most likely) diagnosed with sleep apnea, which is more than just snoring; you are actually becoming hypoxic/anoxic (low/no oxygen) while you sleep because you stop breathing. Untreated, this condition can cause stroke or death; recently a well-known former football player died in his 40s from sleep apnea. Before it causes stroke/heart attack/death, it will damage your short term memory irrepairably and cause daytime drowsiness that is statisically likely to lead to a fatal car accident (if you drive; if you don't, you don't have to worry about that one). CPAP or BiPAP isjust about the only way to treat sleep apnea (the other is to cut a hole in your throat, which is usualy done as a last-ditch treatment). Sleep apnea can and does strike people of any age, weight and sex. And as for sleeping with you in your CPAP - would your wife rather sleep with your snoring, or alone because your untreated apnea did you in? I've been using a CPAP for seven years now. I was surprised at how easy it was to get used to, and even more surprised at sleeping through the night. Hadn't done that in years before I got the CPAP! Yes, they're not cute, but it's so much better than the alternative.  Signature"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." - Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather >> ok, here goes ! >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > night. Hadn't done that in years before I got the CPAP! Yes, they're not > cute, but it's so much better than the alternative. what he said. also: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-07,D VXA:en&q=snoring+treatment > >> ok, here goes ! > >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > what he said. Thanks! I'm a she, by the way - I was originally told I was "too young, too thin and too female" to have sleep apnea. I have a AHI of 43 ... guess not, huh? > also: > http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-07 > ,DVXA:en&q=snoring+treatment and alt.support.sleep-disorder Signature"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." - Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather >> >> ok, here goes ! >> >> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > and alt.support.sleep-disorder So sorry, ma'am! So you would recommend CPAP to a sleep apnea/snore sufferer? thnx. > "REP" <rep@inanna.com> wrote in message > > Thanks! I'm a she, by the way - I was originally told I was "too young, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > So sorry, ma'am! So you would recommend CPAP to a sleep apnea/snore > sufferer? thnx. Absolutely (if one was prescribed by a doctor, of course). There's a wide variety of masks available, so finding a comfortable one is even easier now than when I started using mine - and the machines are a *lot* quieter (my new CPAP barely makes any noise at all). Signature"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." - Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather >> "REP" <rep@inanna.com> wrote in message >> > Thanks! I'm a she, by the way - I was originally told I was "too young, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > easier now than when I started using mine - and the machines are a *lot* > quieter (my new CPAP barely makes any noise at all). Thank you! I've been telling my father for a while now that there are tx's for his snoring. I think he may have some sleep apnea, as well, because for the longest time I have heard him snore at night, and then not breathe for several seconds, then pick up the heavy snoring again. I've told my mother this & she agrees. I think the symptoms are evident, cuz he's always tired & can (& often does) fall asleep at the drop of a hat when sitting down. > Thank you! I've been telling my father for a while now that there are tx's > for his snoring. I think he may have some sleep apnea, as well, because for > the longest time I have heard him snore at night, and then not breathe for > several seconds, then pick up the heavy snoring again. I've told my mother > this & she agrees. I think the symptoms are evident, cuz he's always tired & > can (& often does) fall asleep at the drop of a hat when sitting down. At the risk of sounding lke an After School Special, you and your mom need to keep on him to get tested - it could save his life. The falling asleep at the drop of a hat sounds so familiar, and I remember the misery of being that exhausted all the time. There's no need for your dad to feel like that! do whatever it takes to get him to a doctor ... he will be glad you did! You will be too. Good luck! Signature"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." - Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather >> Thank you! I've been telling my father for a while now that there are >> tx's [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > dad to feel like that! do whatever it takes to get him to a doctor ... > he will be glad you did! You will be too. Good luck! I know. I may have made it sound worse than it is, but better safe that sorry, right? We're not exactly rich, but he does have insurance. He's not the healthiest person, either, being nearly 58 & a smoker & alcoholic since college. He's also developed Type II diabetes, & has had a few close calls with hypoglycemic shock. He also has hydroco.-tussin syrup on tap (the NASTY stuff, too---I prefer Tussionex) from his doc. Hmmmmmmmm....wonder why he's got a cough...couldn't be the smoking could it? (Please don't answer that one). All I can do is pray for him daily. Thnx for the replies. >I Snore. LOUDLY. (or so my neighbors tell me !) > >My Doc refered me to a sleep disorder specialists. They recomended i >wear this contrpation on my face at night. Fine, "how long?" I asked. >As long as i want to sleep without snoring. Good God ! I don't think >my wife would like sleeping in the same bed as Darth Vader ! I assume you had one of those tests where they wire you up and you sleep on site, and concluded that you have sleep apnea. It's possible to snore long and loud without having sleep apnea, but that's not the case with you. >I'm sorry but, why didn't the Doc recomend laser or RF work on my >throat? Isn't that effective? Is it because I am on an HMO plan? My >eomploer has both. I'll go prefered if that will allow the throat >approach. This was popular for a while, but they found out that within a few years everything grows back, the snoring and/or apnea return, and you end up with just the scarred palate and a tendency for food to go up your nose. >I'd like to hear fromn other snorers that have found relief. What >method was it? Well, there are a few home remedies. Some people only snore when they sleep on their backs, so sleeping on their sides helps a lot. You can try various stunts like sewing a tennis ball into the back of your pajamas, for example. Note that there are two kinds of sleep apnea: central and obstructive. Central sleep apnea is a neurological disorder in which the brain stops giving the signal to breathe. The much more common kind is obstructive sleep apnea, where the throat relaxes and obstructs the airway. This form is often improved by losing excess weight, and it's more common in middle age as the tone of the throat muscles declines. Your sleep study should have determined which form you have. If you have obstructive sleep apnea, you may be able to control it by using a dental appliance that fits onto your teeth and holds your lower jaw a bit further forward. A few millimeters can be enough to stop your snoring by keeping your airway open. Your local dental society may be able to recommend a dentist who makes these appliances, or you may be able to find one through the Sleep Disorders Dental Society (or some similar name). The appliances have to be custom fitted, but the dentist can probably loan you a generic one to try out. If it works, they can make a custom one for you. If it doesn't work, go for the CPAP, the Darth Vader contraption. If you've got apnea, and not just snoring, you really should do something about it since it can cause you permanent damage if it goes on. : ok, here goes ! : I Snore. LOUDLY. (or so my neighbors tell me !) : My Doc refered me to a sleep disorder specialists. They recomended i : wear this contrpation on my face at night. Fine, "how long?" I asked. : As long as i want to sleep without snoring. Good God ! I don't think : my wife would like sleeping in the same bed as Darth Vader ! : That was some time ago. I never went back for the 'fitting'. : I'm sorry but, why didn't the Doc recomend laser or RF work on my : throat? Isn't that effective? Is it because I am on an HMO plan? My I think the issue here is pretty clear. You need to talk to your Doctor (and get your INFORMATION) before slagging him here for not offering you laser surgery. Usually there is a reason. A mask is not used to treat snoring --- there sis something that you are failing to tell us some VITAL information about your sleep specialist app't. It is highly unfair for you to come here asking for help, when you only give us half the info. Talk to your doctor. Ask HIM the questions that you felt he did not answer. Why didn't YOU ask him about Laser? Why didn't you go BACK? Do you want to die from an untreated sleep disorder? (eg not using CPAP/BiPAP) Get real. Iron, wood, cement, cork, paper, glass, tobacco, textile fibres and chalk. Now WHICH of the above .. might .. cause .. oxidative stress / rust .. ? Laryngoscope. 2004 Jul;114(7):1200-3. Related Articles, Links Role of free radicals and antioxidants in nasal polyps. Dagli M, Eryilmaz A, Besler T, Akmansu H, Acar A, Korkmaz H. Department of Otolaryngology and Head and Neck Surgery, Ankara Numune Hospital, Ankara, Turkey. OBJECTIVES/HYPOTHESIS: The aim of this study is to determine the role of free radicals and antioxidants in nasal polyps. STUDY DESIGN: Prospective, randomized, controlled study. METHODS: Thirty-one patients with nasal polyposis and a control group consisting of 19 patients with septal deviation and lower turbinate hypertrophy were included in the study. Levels of the antioxidants retinol, beta-carotene, alpha-tocopherol, and ascorbic acid were measured from the sera of the patients with nasal polyposis and the control group. Plasma levels of superoxide dismutase activity (SOD), glutathione peroxidase (GSHPX) activity, and reduced glutathione (GSH) were also obtained. As a peroxidation product, the levels of the malondialdehyde-thiobarbituric acid (MDA) combination were measured from the plasma of patient and control groups. Measurements of MDA, GSH, and alpha-tocopherol levels were also taken from the polyp tissue and turbinate mucosa of the control group. RESULTS: The blood levels of antioxidants and MDA as an oxidant were significantly different in the patient group compared with the control group (P <.01). The tissue levels of antioxidants and MDA were significantly different in the patients with polyposis compared with the control group (P <.01). The blood and tissue anti-oxidant levels were found to be decreased, and MDA levels as an oxidant increased significantly in the patient group with polyposis when compared with the control group, and there was a negative correlation between oxidative stress and antioxidants. CONCLUSION: This study demonstrates that oxidative stress and tissue and blood antioxidants in the patients with polyposis were significantly different compared with the control group. The blood and tissue antioxidant levels decreased, and MDA levels, as an oxidant, increased significantly in the patient group with polyposis when compared with the control group. The current study demonstrates that there is strong evidence related to oxidative stress in the pathogenesis of nasal polyposis, and antioxidants can have a preventive role in free-radical-mediated tissue damage in nasal polyposis. Publication Types: Clinical Trial Randomized Controlled Trial PMID: 15235348 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acta Med Port. 1995 Jun;8(6):379-84. Related Articles, Links [92 cases of allergic-type nasal polyp. A methodology for its etiological characterization] [Article in Portuguese] Pimentel JC. Instituto de Anatomia Patologica, Faculdade de Medicina de Lisboa. The etiopathogenesis of nasal allergic polyps is poorly understood; an immunological mediated mechanism is commonly admitted. A clinic-pathological study of 92 cases of nasal polyps is reported. The occupational and or environmental background of the patients was recorded. Appropriate histochemical techniques were applied to identify pollutants within the lesions. Iron, wood, cement, cork, paper, glass, tobacco, textile fibres and chalk could be identified. The follow-up of patients at 12 years after excision of polyps revealed a decrease in recurrence whenever exposure to pollutants was discontinued. The etiology of nasal allergic polyps is probably related to the inhalation of some foreign materials reported. Publication Types: Review Review, Tutorial PMID: 7653295 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEADPEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking : Hello is the this an acceptable group to ask for cures for snorers? Is : there some other groups that would be better? : Thanks Get a referral to a Sleep Disorders Clinic. The problems can be bigger than just the snoring sounds. They can be life-threatening. (e.g. apnea). Talk to your doctor about a sleep clinic study. Emma :) |
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