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michaele@ando.pair.com - 05 Apr 2005 17:12 GMT
Which is the latest article on the theory of sympathetic yawning
between humans?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michael Eisenstadt
tech27 - 06 Apr 2005 02:32 GMT
If you have internet access, try doing a Google Search for "sympathetic
yawning". Then choose from one of the 42,700 hits. Or, you can pay me
$250.00 an hour and I will do it for you.
What you have stumbled upon is a "newsgroup", not a free research service
for lazy f.cks.

Good luck.

> Which is the latest article on the theory of sympathetic yawning
> between humans?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Michael Eisenstadt
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 07 Apr 2005 21:57 GMT
> If you have internet access, try doing a Google Search for "sympathetic
> yawning". Then choose from one of the 42,700 hits. Or, you can pay me
> $250.00 an hour and I will do it for you.

    There are over 100,000 hits for "sympathetic vomiting".

Steve

> What you have stumbled upon is a "newsgroup", not a free research service
> for lazy f.cks.
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>>
>>Michael Eisenstadt

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

tech27 - 07 Apr 2005 22:15 GMT
> There are over 100,000 hits for "sympathetic vomiting".
>
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> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001

Very interesting. I always thought that it is sometimes possible not to puke
when someone else does, but I think that there is little control over
sympathetic yawning.

BTW-Did BOTH of you go train as dental surgeons or did you split the
classes? Which one took the exams? When one of you yawns,does the other yawn
too even if he isn't in the same room? How about vomiting? Do you co-retch?
(-;
John Que - 06 Apr 2005 11:09 GMT
> Which is the latest article on the theory of sympathetic yawning
> between humans?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Michael Eisenstadt

Now that is a bloody esoteric topic.
Yawn.

I hate to say it but I agree with tech27.
Go do your own research. I do enough
as it is on the Usenet.
michaele@ando.pair.com - 07 Apr 2005 21:44 GMT
The issue of contagious yawning is interesting in and of itself. If you
have nothing to say and are not interested in contagious yawning, why
do you post rude replies? It does not reflect well on your character.

Michael Eisenstadt
tech27 - 07 Apr 2005 22:10 GMT
> The issue of contagious yawning is interesting in and of itself. If you
> have nothing to say and are not interested in contagious yawning, why
> do you post rude replies? It does not reflect well on your character.
>
> Michael Eisenstadt

Did you read the post that agreed with me?
Yes, it's interesting if you want to discuss it. It is NOT interesting when
a twit like you just bounces in with a stupid question which you could
answer yourself if you had even the slightest inclination to type a few
keystrokes and read for yourself. Then bring the information and your
comments here and people will gladly discuss it.

I notice that besides my reply, and two others posting to my reply, you have
had NO REPLIES. Does that tell you anything?

I repeat:
If you have internet access, try doing a Google Search for "sympathetic
yawning". Then choose from one of the 42,700 hits. Or, you can pay me
$250.00 an hour and I will do it for you.
What you have stumbled upon is a "newsgroup", not a free research service
for lazy f.cks.

All the best.
michaele@ando.pair.com - 08 Apr 2005 13:54 GMT
"Contagious yawning is thought to be based on the capacity
for empathy."  - Feb. 2005 paper on contagious yawning in
chimpanzees.

Apparently there is NO serious psychologistic explanation
of  contagious yawning in humans in medical science
literature. I was hoping that someone in this forum interested
in this issue might know of a proposed explanation of the
phenomenon less elementary than the one quoted above.

Michael Eisenstadt
tech27 - 08 Apr 2005 15:22 GMT
> "Contagious yawning is thought to be based on the capacity
> for empathy."  - Feb. 2005 paper on contagious yawning in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Michael Eisenstadt

(Yawn)
You're boring us.
bae@cs.toronto.no-uce.edu - 11 Apr 2005 12:38 GMT
>"Contagious yawning is thought to be based on the capacity
>for empathy."  - Feb. 2005 paper on contagious yawning in
>chimpanzees.

Right. Kind of weak and circular.  What's the definition of "empathy"
in this context?

>Apparently there is NO serious psychologistic explanation
>of  contagious yawning in humans in medical science
>literature. I was hoping that someone in this forum interested
>in this issue might know of a proposed explanation of the
>phenomenon less elementary than the one quoted above.

Here's my take on it, FWIW.  I am not an anthropologist.

Humans are social animals, like chimpanzees.  For millions of years, we
hominids all lived like chimpanzees in extended family groups as
gatherers with some hunting.  It's useful for such groups to
synchronize their activities.  For one thing, it keeps them together
for detection of and defense against predators.  So if everybody
settles down for the afternoon nap at the same time, rather than
wandering off foraging individually, and everybody gets up looking for
a snack at the same time, it's safer and more efficient.

It would support my offhand theory if the observed contagious yawning
in chimps resulted in the group all settling down for a snooze or
louse-picking session together.

Btw, anyone who has looked after house cats will have observed that
their vomit smells no different than their food, while the smell of
human vomit makes most people want to retch.  While cats are solitary
foragers, who eat mostly fresh-killed meat under natural conditions,
humans are group foragers who eat almost anything.  If one gatherer has
eaten a toxic plant or some badly spoiled carrion, most likely other
members of the group have too, and if one member vomits, it's adaptive
for the others to as well, before they get as sick as the first guy.
Hence contagious vomiting.

I wave my hands and speculate that the human stomach secretes some
chemical in minute amounts that the human nose is extremely sensitive
to, the smell of which stimulates emesis in humans.  Perhaps some
strong-stomached or weak-nosed researcher has identified this substance
already.  I'd expect the military to fund such research.

Btw, I wouldn't describe the feeling of nausea I get from seeing,
hearing or smelling somebody else vomiting as empathy, ditto the urge
to yawn when everybody else is, but maybe a non-human student of human
behaviour would.

I'll back off before I sound any more like Archimedes Plutonium.
 
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