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Codeblueblog Analyzes Terri Schiavo's Cat Scan

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Phil Calvert - 23 Mar 2005 08:03 GMT
CSI MEDBLOGS:
CODEBLUEBLOG ANALYZES TERRI SCHIAVO'S CT OF THE BRAIN
http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html

"The most alarming thing about this image, however, is that
there certainly is cortex left. Granted, it is severely
thinned, especially for Terri's age, but I would be
nonplussed if you told me that this was a 75 year old female
who was somewhat senile but fully functional, and I defy a
radiologist anywhere to contest that.

I HAVE SEEN MANY WALKING, TALKING, FAIRLY COHERENT PEOPLE
WITH WORSE CEREBRAL/CORTICAL ATROPHY. THEREFORE, THIS IS IN
NO WAY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT TERRI SCHIAVO'S MENTAL
ABILITIES OR/OR CAPABILITIES ARE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. I
CANNOT BELIEVE SUCH TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE BASIS OF
THIS SCAN."

[See above link for the rest of the discussion.]
Carey Gregory - 23 Mar 2005 08:36 GMT
>CSI MEDBLOGS:

Do you seriously expect anyone with two brain cells to rub together to
actually read this crap, much less take it seriously?

Look, you and all the bloggers of the world who feel compelled to interject
your ignorant selves into this should just shut the f.ck up and politely
await your turn to rot in hell alongside the Congress and president of the
United States.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN - 23 Mar 2005 12:19 GMT
Phil Calvert" <pcalvert@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Like all usenet horseshit, this was crossposted to several newsgroups,  none of
which give a rat's a.s.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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The Real Tom - 23 Mar 2005 15:43 GMT
>Phil Calvert" <pcalvert@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>Like all usenet horseshit, this was crossposted to several newsgroups,  none of
>which give a rat's a.s.

Very true, as a layperson, I think it stop becoming a medical issue
when the courts got first involved. Now it's a civil rights issue.  So
let the lawyers and judges work it out, they will be the ones to call
for further testing, etc, etc......

later,

tom @ www.Love-Calculators.com
Kurt Ullman - 23 Mar 2005 12:31 GMT
>>CSI MEDBLOGS:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>await your turn to rot in hell alongside the Congress and president of the
>United States.

  I have a friend who is a retired Journalism professor. He views much of
blogging as masturbatory journalism.  Seems to fit.

--
Here in California, US immigrants do the really dirty jobs nobody else
wants to do. Cleaning toilets. Being governor.

SBH
Carey Gregory - 24 Mar 2005 07:49 GMT
>   I have a friend who is a retired Journalism professor. He views much of
>blogging as masturbatory journalism.  Seems to fit.

I think he flatters most of them.

Not doubt a few jewels will emerge from the rough, but possession of a
keyboard doesn't make you smart or talented.
pcalvert@rocketmail.com - 23 Mar 2005 17:12 GMT
So, you discount the information just because the information was
posted by a blogger.  How small, narrow-minded, and bigoted of you.
Did it ever occur to you that the person who wrote that might be a
physician?

>From the front page of Codeblueblog:
"Dr. Boyle is a man of strong views and good will...read the weblog."
Brad DeLong-- Semi-Daily Journal
Mortimer Schnerd, RN - 23 Mar 2005 17:23 GMT
> So, you discount the information just because the information was
> posted by a blogger.  How small, narrow-minded, and bigoted of you.
> Did it ever occur to you that the person who wrote that might be a
> physician?

So what?  You're still crossposting into groups that don't care.  Put this in
the political newsgroups where it belongs.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

mortschnerd@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE

Mark Probert - 23 Mar 2005 19:02 GMT
> So, you discount the information just because the information was
> posted by a blogger.  How small, narrow-minded, and bigoted of you.
> Did it ever occur to you that the person who wrote that might be a
> physician

Conversely, did it ever occur to you that the person writing is may just be
a moron?
Carey Gregory - 24 Mar 2005 07:51 GMT
>So, you discount the information just because the information was
>posted by a blogger.  How small, narrow-minded, and bigoted of you.
>Did it ever occur to you that the person who wrote that might be a
>physician?

I fail to see your point.  So what if he's a physician?  
poboxdc@ix.netcom.com - 24 Mar 2005 00:16 GMT
> >CSI MEDBLOGS:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> await your turn to rot in hell alongside the Congress and president of the
> United States.

And everyone should read this carefully:

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=6942

KM
Carey Gregory - 24 Mar 2005 07:47 GMT
>> >CSI MEDBLOGS:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>And everyone should read this carefully:

Why?   It's another political opinion piece based on 5th party information.

This is not a political matter.  Or shouldn't be.  This is real life, real
people dealing with a real tragedy that thousands of other people deal with
every day.  No one else gets congressional and presidential intervention.
They make their hideous decisions and move on.  

The first tragedy here is obviously Terri herself.  But the second tragedy
is that she has been turned into a circus side show by her parents, their
lawyers, politicians, George Bush, Jeb Bush, Congress, the FL state
legislature, and the media.

And now all the f.cking bloggers have an opinion.

Wonderful.  

Meanwhile, feeding tubes are being removed and ventilators are being turned
off every day by real people who have to face real decisions without the
"assistance" of bloggers and the US Congress.  

No, the real tragedy here is that Terri, her husband, and her parents have
been made into political play toys and blogger meat.  Everyone with a
f.cking opinion on this matter who doesn't know the circumstances
first-hand, or second-hand through their official capacity in the FL state
courts, should hang their head in shame and pray that the same thing doesn't
happen to them.
Jeff - 25 Mar 2005 03:43 GMT
>>> >CSI MEDBLOGS:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> lawyers, politicians, George Bush, Jeb Bush, Congress, the FL state
> legislature, and the media.

I don't blame her parents and family one bit. When a loved on is involved,
people don't always think logically. They tend to grasp at straws. Nor do I
blame the families' lawyers, on either side. They are representing their
clients.

However, I fully blame the Bushes, Congress and the FL legislature. This is
matter is should not be a political football.

If anything, it shows the importance of checks and balances of the
government.

> And now all the f.cking bloggers have an opinion.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> doesn't
> happen to them.

Actually, one good thing that is going to come out of this is a lot more
people are going to have living wills and health-care powers of attorney. So
people who end up as Terri does will have a voice that truely speak for
them.

I do think it is good that the neation is talking about end of life
decisions, because it does happen to people. But I feel really bad for Terri
and her husband.

The other thing I like about this is the actual court records are on the
internet. So those who are truelly interested in seeing what the courts did
can read the records. Then, they can look at what the courts did and what
the Bushes and the legislatures did, and come to their own conclusions about
it.

Too bad all this effort wasn't used for something useful, like ending the
war in Iraq. I guess those 100,000+ people who were killed or the those
millions of people who have been affected by the war are not as important as
one lade without a functioning cortex.

Jeff
Mark Probert - 25 Mar 2005 16:23 GMT
> I don't blame her parents and family one bit. When a loved on is involved,
> people don't always think logically. They tend to grasp at straws. Nor do I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> However, I fully blame the Bushes, Congress and the FL legislature. This is
> matter is should not be a political football.

I heard that you can only blame 3 senators, since that is the number that
showed up for the voice vote.
Bryan - 26 Mar 2005 09:12 GMT
>>>CSI MEDBLOGS:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> KM
why? Who cares? we all know the media distorts everything they report.
It does not matter that she can breath on her own simply because her
autonomic brain functions are working, she is long since gone..............
 
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