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tech27 - 17 Feb 2005 16:50 GMT

I cracked a rib or two about 3 months ago. The medical line was that there
is nothing that can be done except addictive pain killers and/or NSAID's
that are being pulled off the market every second day. Wrapping is a no-no
as it causes shallow breathing and associated lung problems this brings.

Problem is I get better, then some activity which does not seem painful at
the time causes the pain to flare up again. When in this mode if I even
cough it causes a serious re-injury. Last night I coughed suddenly while
getting up (I was bent over), and I could here a "pop" in the lower back
where the injury is. The pain is excruciating. I can't breathe and collapse.
Last night I couldn't even get up and came close to fainting while trying to
get off the floor.

Is there any course of investigation or treatment available or do I just
have to bear it and super protect myself for months and months waiting for
it to heal?

Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2005 18:33 GMT

There is prayer.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches
of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign
of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan],
and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not
make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is
what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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> I cracked a rib or two about 3 months ago. The medical line was that there
> is nothing that can be done except addictive pain killers and/or NSAID's
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>
> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

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Happy Dog - 18 Feb 2005 06:39 GMT

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com>

> There is prayer.
>
> You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
> name.

So, if he doesn't feel better, what will be your excuse? If he does, and
thinks that jesus was just a guy, how did he do it?

BTW, is this the best you have to offer? If so, do you bother to treat
patients anymore? And, if so, why the f.ck don't you offer some advice that
comes from a world where claims for treatments can be falsified?

moo

> May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
> you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 07:00 GMT

Whatever happens will be His doing.

Whatever He does is better than anything I can do.

All that I am and will ever be is because of God, Whom I love with all
of my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the wonderful riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com>
>
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> >>
> >> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

Signature

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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Happy Dog - 18 Feb 2005 07:54 GMT

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

> Whatever happens will be His doing.
>
> Whatever He does is better than anything I can do.

Fortunately, not better than anything anyone can do.

Your claim for the best treatment can't be tested nor falsified. Know what
that means?

> All that I am and will ever be is because of God,

A boring, psychotic, Christ-besotted troll.

Praise be.

< snip 100 lines of ecumenical fellatio >

I wonder of the OP still feels this way:

>> >> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

moo

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 08:49 GMT

Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the wonderful riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

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> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> moo

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tech27 - 18 Feb 2005 13:01 GMT

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> moo

You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get an appointment with God. He's not
taking any new patients till the Second Coming, but might squeeze me in
between WWIII and the Apocalypse. I asked HIM about *Dr* Chung and you could
tell from HIS voice HE was disturbed. Muttered something like, "Oh Christ,
don't remind me, that was one of Satan's".

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 13:04 GMT

It seems that you are having an adverse reaction to the painkillers that
you have written you are taking. Would suggest you inform your doctor.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

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> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >
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> tell from HIS voice HE was disturbed. Muttered something like, "Oh Christ,
> don't remind me, that was one of Satan's".

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tech27 - 18 Feb 2005 12:55 GMT

I've gone on record beseeching anyone who is located anywhere near Chung to
put together an exemplar of his posts and apply to have his license to
practice makes perfect medicine revoked.

He is a complete w.nker, who lives in my kill file. I wouldn't have seen
this post had you not replied to it. (if the sender is Chung....)

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com>
>
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>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 13:02 GMT

Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.

Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

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> I've gone on record beseeching anyone who is located anywhere near Chung to
> put together an exemplar of his posts and apply to have his license to
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> >>>
> >>> Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

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indidoc@vsnl.net - 18 Feb 2005 03:53 GMT

Using a removable corset may help by restricting excessive movements.
Reduction in respiratory activity is more dangerous in elderly &
otherwise inactive patients

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oldal4865 - 18 Feb 2005 12:24 GMT

tech27 wrote in message ...

>I cracked a rib or two about 3 months ago. The medical line was that there
>is nothing that can be done except addictive pain killers and/or NSAID's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Last night I couldn't even get up and came close to fainting while trying to
>get off the floor.

I once suffered two cracked ribs due to a bad fall. Confirmed by
X-rays, etc. The only therapy was pain killers and a wrap.

I lost a week of work and had a bad month, but none of this "excruciating
pain after 3 months" stuff. You might want to go back for some more
medical advice and/or X-rays. Your problems seem unreasonable.

On therapies: Unfortunately, there are no quick-fix therapies for such
things in ribs and toes. Pain killers and protection till it heals by
itself.

Ummm. . .those of us with rampant arthritis have a different view of pain
killers. You may see things differently as you age.

Regards
Old Al

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tech27 - 18 Feb 2005 13:05 GMT

> I lost a week of work and had a bad month, but none of this "excruciating
> pain after 3 months" stuff. You might want to go back for some more
> medical advice and/or X-rays. Your problems seem unreasonable.

I keep re-injuring them almost monthly, but I am going for a more extensive
investigation.

> On therapies: Unfortunately, there are no quick-fix therapies for such
> things in ribs and toes. Pain killers and protection till it heals by
> itself.
>
> Ummm. . .those of us with rampant arthritis have a different view of pain
> killers. You may see things differently as you age.

Nothing against pain killers here. My concern was that besides being
potentially harmful, they only address the symptom, not the cause. Their use
for chronic pain management is an entirely different thing and I have no
problems with them providing relief for sufferers.

> Regards
> Old Al

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