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Medical Forum / General / General / September 2006Really scared, drank alcohol while pregnant
Scared!!! I found out I was pregnant relatively early, on the 22nd day after conception. What really worries me is that I had three drinking episodes. I had the 4 glasses of wine on the 14th day of pregnancy, 4 glasses on the 17th, and another three glasses on the 18th. In all three instances I consumed those drinks while dinning. No more Alcohol after I found out. Could anybody give me some advice as to what the worst case scenario for my baby would be?. I've deeply regretted having those drinking episodes, but my real worry is that I read on the Internet that as even one or two drinks a day could result in significant structural damage. Thanks in advance for your cooperation >Scared!!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Thanks in advance for your cooperation Check the 'fact sheets' on this site, then look around from there: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fas/factsheets.htm You don't appear to be in the 'risk drinking' category, but I'm not a doctor. You should talk to yours. I don't know if there's any way to tell if the drinking you did (which, to me, doesn't sound like much) has had a negative effect. Those fact sheets don't say much that is specific. Now you know and you're not drinking - that's a good thing. Drinking during pregnancy can have significant effects, but keep in mind that what you've had isn't that much and the chances of it being significant are very small - not zero, but very small. Your doctor is the one to talk to about this, however. There may be other risk factors involved. --- "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson Highly unlikely that this sort of drinking, taken with food, could cause any problems. Certainly no need to worry about FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome). Relax. Take lots of folic acid. >>Scared!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." > - Thomas Jefferson > Scared!!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation Please seek medical advice. The last place you should look to for advice on something like that is Usenet. Since you care for your baby, you should particularly avoid talk.abortion, where people lie in every way possible to dehumanize unborn babies. They would even chastise you for caring... if they had any intellectual honesty, that is. > > Scared!!! > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > unborn babies. They would even chastise you for caring... if they had > any intellectual honesty, that is. If you had a modicum of even *basic honesty, you wouldn't lie through your teeth the way you did in your second paragraph. It is complete bullshit, and you are well aware of it. Fucktards like you have to lie and beat up strawmen because all you're capable of is yapping in circles, creating fictitous caricatures about people you aren't competent enough to understand, and take our words out of context to try to make some sort of point. Your unbridled stupidity and dishonesty notwithstanding, though, I would agree fully with your first paragraph.  Signature-Donald in Austin AA #2104 Apatriot #22 Atheist FF/EMT ....and ordained minister Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn > > > Scared!!! > > > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > ....and ordained minister > Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn "Nails", is that any way to address a visitor? No one will ever take you seriously if you continue to present yourself like a cross-dressing pervert from the projects. You owe "Sergeant America" an apology. > Please seek medical advice. The last place you should look to for advice > on something like that is Usenet. > Since you care for your baby, you should particularly avoid > talk.abortion, where people lie in every way possible to dehumanize > unborn babies. They would even chastise you for caring... if they had > any intellectual honesty, that is. Projecting again, sheep-shagger? Tell me: How is it that "Sergeant America" is posting from New Zealand? LC~ He's probably hunting a rogue cell of Al-Qaida Hobbits. "A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin"~ H.L. Mencken i was an alcoholic when i concieved my son and he a beautiful healthy boy, talk to your doctor. he'll be able answer all your worries, don't get too stressed and avoid alcohol from now on god bless nancy > Scared!!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation > Scared!!! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Could anybody give me some advice as to what the worst case scenario > for my baby would be?. An abortion. > I've deeply regretted having those drinking > episodes, but my real worry is that I read on the Internet that as > even one or two drinks a day could result in significant structural > damage. They meant for the duration of the pregnancy. > Thanks in advance for your cooperation Your conscientiousness shows me your child will have no problems whatsoever since you decided to stop drinking. What is all this about talk to your doctor? I mean, will he charge a fee? Why do people act as if someone needs to go to a doctor when there seems to be no problem at all? I think you are doing very well, since you stopped drinking after you learned of your pregnancy. I see no problem at all. Congratulations. >Scared!!! Don't. >I found out I was pregnant relatively early, on the 22nd day after >conception. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >consumed those drinks while dinning. No more Alcohol after I found >out. LOL! That's _it_?!? >Could anybody give me some advice as to what the worst case scenario >for my baby would be? Could. Won't. No point. > I've deeply regretted having those drinking >episodes, but my real worry is that I read on the Internet that as >even one or two drinks a day could result in significant structural >damage. Talk to your doctor. A few drinks are unlikely to have any noticible effect. Fetal-Alchohol Syndrome is an issue when women have six drinks a day for months at a stretch. SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net > >Scared!!! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > LOL! That's _it_?!? Any alcohol can be dangerous, especially early in the pregnancy "Although many women are aware that heavy drinking during pregnancy can cause birth defects, many do not realize that moderate-or even light-drinking also may harm the fetus. In fact, no level of alcohol use during pregnancy has been proven safe." http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp > >Could anybody give me some advice as to what the worst case scenario > >for my baby would be? > > Could. Won't. No point. See your doctor. > > I've deeply regretted having those drinking > >episodes, but my real worry is that I read on the Internet that as [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > effect. Fetal-Alchohol Syndrome is an issue when women have six > drinks a day for months at a stretch. All alcohol should be avoided when pregnant. "When a pregnant woman drinks, alcohol passes swiftly through the placenta to her baby. In the unborn baby's immature body, alcohol is broken down much more slowly than in an adult's body. As a result, the alcohol level of the baby's blood can be even higher and can remain elevated longer than the level in the mother's blood. This sometimes causes the baby to suffer lifelong damage." http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp "During pregnancy, how much alcohol is too much? No level of drinking has been proven safe. The full pattern of FAS usually occurs in offspring of chronic alcohol abusers, most often in women who drink four to five or more drinks daily. However, it has occurred in women who drink less. ARBD and ARND can occur in babies of women who drink moderately or lightly during pregnancy. Researchers are taking a closer look at the more subtle effects of moderate and light drinking during pregnancy. A 2001 study by researchers at Wayne State University in Detroit found that 6- and 7-year-old children of mothers who had as little as one drink a week during pregnancy were more likely than children of non-drinkers to have behavior problems, such as aggressive and delinquent behaviors. These researchers found that children whose mothers drank any alcohol during pregnancy were more than three times as likely as unexposed children to demonstrate delinquent behaviors." http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp >> >Scared!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Any alcohol can be dangerous, especially early in the pregnancy Nonsense. >"Although many women are aware that heavy drinking during pregnancy can >cause birth defects, many do not realize that moderate-or even [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >safe." >http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp Nor has occasional drinking been proven to be harmful. >> > I've deeply regretted having those drinking >> >episodes, but my real worry is that I read on the Internet that as [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >All alcohol should be avoided when pregnant. You don't let thinking get in the way of propaganda as a rule, do you? SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net Thank you all for answering to my question. But there is another serious reason I'm still very concerned. I recentrlly foynd out that .." In the embryonic stage: the third postconception week of human pregnancy is considered the critical period for teratogenic actions of alcohol to produce the most severe and characteristic features of FAS. Drinking an average of 3 drinks/daily during the period following conception and just before pregnancy is confirmed, increases the risk of having a FAS child. Occasional drinking during this period did not increase risk." http://www.digitalism.org/hst/fetal.html What really worries me is that I had three drinking episodes. I had the 4 glasses of wine on the 14th day of pregnancy, 4 glasses on the 17th, and another three glasses on the 18th, i.e. all within this ‘critical period". Any comments? > Thank you all for answering to my question. But there is another > serious reason I'm still very concerned. I recentrlly foynd out that [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Any comments? I already told you what would be the worst thing for the child. Nothing you mentioned yet is sufficient reason for an abortion. Seems to me you are somehow wanting to abort this child. Tell us your situation. Are you single carrying a married man's child? Are you single carrying the child of someone you do not want to marry? What is the case here? > > Thank you all for answering to my question. But there is another > > serious reason I'm still very concerned. I recentrlly foynd out that [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Are you single carrying the child of someone you do not want to marry? > What is the case here? I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. It's just that I'm worried. Thanks again for your response, Johny I can see your worried and can understand how you are feeling but Im sure your baby will be fine. Best thing for you to do is to stop stressing, try to be calm and relaxed as this is what your baby needs is to have a good environment no stress included, I know this is easier said than done, but your baby will be fine, just keep up your healthy food habits and get enough rest and look after yourself and baby will be fine you will see. > "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message news:<kAIPd.9449$pE1.4123@bignews3.bellsouth.net>... > > "Alice" <fantidou@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4ec62859.0502122252.124544@posting.google.com... > > > Thank you all for answering to my question. But there is another > > > serious reason I'm still very concerned. I recentrlly foynd out that > > > .." In the embryonic stage: the third postconception week of human > > > pregnancy is considered the critical period for teratogenic actions of > > > alcohol to produce the most severe and characteristic features of FAS. > > > Drinking an average of 3 drinks/daily during the period following > > > conception and just before pregnancy is confirmed, increases the risk > > > of having a FAS child. Occasional drinking during this period did not > > > increase risk." > > > > > > http://www.digitalism.org/hst/fetal.html > > > > > > What really worries me is that I had three drinking episodes. I had > > > the 4 glasses of wine on the 14th day of pregnancy, 4 glasses on the > > > 17th, and another three glasses on the 18th, i.e. all within this > > > 'critical period". > > > > > > Any comments? > > > > I already told you what would be the worst thing for the child. > > Nothing you mentioned yet is sufficient reason for an abortion. > > Seems to me you are somehow wanting to abort this child. > > Tell us your situation. > > Are you single carrying a married man's child? > > Are you single carrying the child of someone you do not want to marry? > > What is the case here? > > I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. It's just that I'm > worried. Thanks again for your response, Johny > I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same personal/medical decision >> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > > hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > personal/medical decision Why would she since she is NOT for that option for herself? You want to keep your baby killer;s line out of this thread? This woman does NOT want an abortion. GO AWAY MURDEROUS a.shole! "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in news:2yPPd.9885$pE1.8132 @bignews3.bellsouth.net: >>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >> >> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same >> personal/medical decision > > Why would she? are you speaking for her and claiming she would NOT allow others to make personal/medical choices just nas she did? People you should calm down. The poor lady who started this thread is worried there is no need to start a fight. If you are going to do that I suggest you leave as this lady is using this thread to help herself not to hear all the bullshit fighting. Regards Chanelle > "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in news:2yPPd.9885$pE1.8132 > @bignews3.bellsouth.net: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCA4A914A79keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >> fantidou@hotmail.com (Alice) wrote in > >> news:4ec62859.0502131259.78fbfbc0@posting.google.com: > >> > >>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > >> > >> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > >> personal/medical decision > > > > Why would she? > > are you speaking for her and claiming she would NOT allow others to make > personal/medical choices just nas she did? > > People you should calm down. can you tell who you detected was upset? I just think whoever started this nastyness should stop it. Please, this lady has feelings. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:HFPPd.1160$1S4.115665@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > People you should calm down. > > can you tell who you detected was upset? > I just think whoever started this nastyness should stop it. don't you know who? do you need help in following the conversation? it's posssible that your non-conforming posting style (top posting) is to blame for your confusion. I am not confused I just think the mean comments should be stopped. Please stop them comments that are nasty. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:qLPPd.1162$1S4.115698@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > I just think whoever started this nastyness should stop it. > > don't you know who? > > do you need help in following the conversation? > > it's posssible that your non-conforming posting style (top posting) is to > blame for your confusion. > > ++ top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers ++ "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in news:MQPPd.1171$1S4.115811 @news.xtra.co.nz: > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:qLPPd.1162$1S4.115698@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > I am not confused your posts seem to refute that. > ++ top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers ++ > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in news:MQPPd.1171$1S4.115811 > @news.xtra.co.nz: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCA96C3E0D5keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:qLPPd.1162$1S4.115698@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > I just think whoever started this nastyness should stop it. > > > > > > don't you know who? > > > > > > do you need help in following the conversation? > > > > > > it's posssible that your non-conforming posting style (top posting) > > > is to blame for your confusion. > > > > > I am not confused > > > your posts seem to refute that. --------------- Oh go get a life. > > > ++ top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers ++ > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Oh go get a life. why do you blame others for your ignornace? > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:gVPPd.1179$1S4.115870@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAA6C4D014keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > ++ top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers ++ > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in news:MQPPd.1171$1S4.115811 > > > @news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCA96C3E0D5keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:qLPPd.1162$1S4.115698@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > I just think whoever started this nastyness should stop > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > don't you know who? > > > > > > > > > > do you need help in following the conversation? > > > > > > > > > > it's posssible that your non-conforming posting style (top > > > > > posting) is to blame for your confusion. > > > > > > > > > I am not confused > > > > > > > > > your posts seem to refute that. > > > > --------------- > > > > Oh go get a life. > > > why do you blame others for your ignornace? ------------------------------------- It is not ignorance, how do I get the refernce line, trust me it is different for me than you. Im obviously posting froma different place than you. > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:gVPPd.1179$1S4.115870@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > different for me than you. Im obviously posting froma different place > than you. it doesn't matter where you are posting from. i told you before. you apparently ignored what i wrote but then asked for the same informnation. read google groups. that is, go to www.google.com then select groups. then read. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:B0QPd.1186$1S4.115013@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAB891DCB8keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:gVPPd.1179$1S4.115870@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCAA6C4D014keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > ++ top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers ++ > > > > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:MQPPd.1171$1S4.115811 @news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > message > > > > > > news:Xns95FCA96C3E0D5keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > > > news:qLPPd.1162$1S4.115698@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just think whoever started this nastyness should > > > > > > > > stop it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't you know who? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you need help in following the conversation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's posssible that your non-conforming posting style > > > > > > > (top posting) is to blame for your confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not confused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your posts seem to refute that. > > > > > > > > --------------- > > > > > > > > Oh go get a life. > > > > > > > > > why do you blame others for your ignornace? > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > It is not ignorance, how do I get the refernce line, trust me it is > > different for me than you. Im obviously posting froma different place > > than you. > > it doesn't matter where you are posting from. > > i told you before. you apparently ignored what i wrote but then asked > for the same informnation. > > read google groups. > > that is, go to www.google.com > > then select groups. > > then read. ---------------------------- Do you actually think I have time to do that. > > > it doesn't matter where you are posting from. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ---------------------------- > Do you actually think I have time to do that. your willingness to post without having done it, or any other due diligence, reflects very badly on you. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:Y6QPd.1188$1S4.116074@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAC9CE7ABCkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > it doesn't matter where you are posting from. > > > > > > i told you before. you apparently ignored what i wrote but then > > > asked for the same informnation. > > > > > > read google groups. > > > > > > that is, go to www.google.com > > > > > > then select groups. > > > > > > then read. > > > > ---------------------------- > > Do you actually think I have time to do that. > > > your willingness to post without having done it, or any other due > diligence, reflects very badly on you. ------------------------ Well lets put it this way, I have no need to justify myself to you. I am working and merely trying to catch up on the post of this lady who I was following last week So quit while you are ahead mate. > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:Y6QPd.1188$1S4.116074@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Well lets put it this way, I have no need to justify myself to you. your posts appear to many thousands of readers. your obstinate ignorance in ignoring basic usenet convention and manners paints you as person of little substance. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:VfQPd.1194$1S4.116145@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAE3C82A32keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:Y6QPd.1188$1S4.116074@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCAC9CE7ABCkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > it doesn't matter where you are posting from. > > > > > > > > > > i told you before. you apparently ignored what i wrote but > > > > > then asked for the same informnation. > > > > > > > > > > read google groups. > > > > > > > > > > that is, go to www.google.com > > > > > > > > > > then select groups. > > > > > > > > > > then read. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > > Do you actually think I have time to do that. > > > > > > > > > your willingness to post without having done it, or any other due > > > diligence, reflects very badly on you. > > > > ------------------------ > > > > Well lets put it this way, I have no need to justify myself to you. > > > your posts appear to many thousands of readers. your obstinate ignorance > in ignoring basic usenet convention and manners paints you as person of > little substance. ----------------------------- Its not usenet idiot > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:VfQPd.1194$1S4.116145@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Its not usenet idiot on the contrary, dear, it is. you need to do something about your usenet ignorance before you continue to demonstrate it. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:DyQPd.1205$1S4.116530@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCB1B001699keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:VfQPd.1194$1S4.116145@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCAE3C82A32keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:Y6QPd.1188$1S4.116074@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > message > > > > > > news:Xns95FCAC9CE7ABCkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > > > it doesn't matter where you are posting from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i told you before. you apparently ignored what i wrote > > > > > > > but then asked for the same informnation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read google groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is, go to www.google.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then select groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then read. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > Do you actually think I have time to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your willingness to post without having done it, or any other > > > > > due diligence, reflects very badly on you. > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > Well lets put it this way, I have no need to justify myself to > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > your posts appear to many thousands of readers. your obstinate > > > ignorance in ignoring basic usenet convention and manners paints > > > you as person of little substance. > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Its not usenet idiot > > > on the contrary, dear, it is. > > you need to do something about your usenet ignorance before you continue > to demonstrate it. -------------------------- I am new to this. I use it thru my outlook express. It says nothing about Usenet anywhere. > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:DyQPd.1205$1S4.116530@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > > yup... tis obvious you're new to it... your 'newsgroups' in outlook express are part of a big thing called "usenet" Before you call others idiots it might pay to learn a little about what you're actually doing/using. Sue - who can't stand to see a "Kiwi" being the idiot >> > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in >> > news:DyQPd.1205$1S4.116530@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Sue - who can't stand to see a "Kiwi" being the idiot thank you. "idiot" is an understatement. > > > > your posts appear to many thousands of readers. your obstinate > > > > ignorance in ignoring basic usenet convention and manners [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I am new to this. that was evident. > I use it thru my outlook express. that too is evident. in fact, read from the header of your posy "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437" > It says nothing about Usenet anywhere. indeed, and why would it? the fact is that you are and have been posting to usenet newsgroups. the fact that you fefused to learn of these things, while concurrently misrepresenting them, defines you clearly. i doubt tyou will like the definition. > > > > > your posts appear to many thousands of readers. your obstinate > > > > > ignorance in ignoring basic usenet convention and manners [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > i doubt tyou will like the definition. What a fuckwit you are, whining about someone not doing things with the correct protocol. Instead of just informing them what you believe was wrong and being done with it you gotta' waste all those readers time with your whining. legend_89@hotmail.com wrote in news:1108359412.262138.241990 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > What a fuckwit you are, whining about someone not doing things with the > correct protocol. Instead of just informing them what you believe was > wrong and being done with it you gotta' waste all those readers time > with your whining. whatever prompted you to misrepresent? > I am new to this. > I use it thru my outlook express. > It says nothing about Usenet anywhere. I still haven't learned to use Outlook Express properly. I am pretty new myself. Carl >> I am new to this. >> I use it thru my outlook express. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Carl what were you using before? You have been around usenet for years >> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > > hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > personal/medical decision NOPE! It does NOT work that way. This woman will NOT get an abortion, and I hope she will be against other women getting abortions. Lots of women do not enjoy being whores. LOL!!!!!!!!! Think about it. Women will stop aborting when they realize how much they are being played as sex toys by Pro-Choicers. Omy gosh what is going on here?????????????????? > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:Xns95FCA4A914A79keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > fantidou@hotmail.com (Alice) wrote in > > news:4ec62859.0502131259.78fbfbc0@posting.google.com: > > > >> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > > > > hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > > personal/medical decision > > NOPE! > It does NOT work that way. > This woman will NOT get an abortion, and I hope she will be against other > women getting abortions. > Lots of women do not enjoy being whores. > LOL!!!!!!!!! > Think about it. > Women will stop aborting when they realize how much they are being played as > sex toys by Pro-Choicers. > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in news:pDPPd.1158$1S4.115256 @news.xtra.co.nz: > Omy gosh what is going on here?????????????????? not much, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> is just a crazed neocon woman-hater posting to the thread. >>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >> >> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same >> personal/medical decision > > NOPE! can you tell readers what divine right empowers you to speak for her? perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same disregard which you seem to treat all females? have you considered that you might have a problem with women? I think you should stop posting here, if you have nothing better to do why dont you go and find someone to say these things to face to face and see how long you last. Leave this post you are not being nice at all. There is other people here trying to support the lady who started the post and you are doing the opposite so you should leave. > "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > news:szPPd.9895$pE1.115@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCA4A914A79keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >> fantidou@hotmail.com (Alice) wrote in > >> news:4ec62859.0502131259.78fbfbc0@posting.google.com: > >> > >>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > >> > >> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > >> personal/medical decision > > > > NOPE! > > can you tell readers what divine right empowers you to speak for her? > > perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same > disregard which you seem to treat all females? > > have you considered that you might have a problem with women? > I think you should stop posting here, if you have nothing better to do > why [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > post > and you are doing the opposite so you should leave. Thanks for telling him off. People like this began person are no better than NARAL themselves. > I think you should stop posting here really? good. i would defend your right to have opinions and to assert them. you'd allow others that same right, would you not? If you are the one who started this plain nastyness in the post then you should leave. Dont be nasty this is a place to support this lady who has a worry about something and is reaching out for advice and thoughts. Please just start being nice!!!!!! > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > I think you should stop posting here > > really? good. i would defend your right to have opinions and to assert > them. > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? why did you respond and not answer the question? > If you are the one who started you can tell who started whatever you want by reading the thread. you should learn how to do that *before* you post. > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:GPPPd.1167$1S4.115328@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCA92AAE9F7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > I think you should stop posting here > > > > > > really? good. i would defend your right to have opinions and to > > > assert them. > > > > > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? > > why did you respond and not answer the question? > > > > If you are the one who started > > > you can tell who started whatever you want by reading the thread. you > should learn how to do that *before* you post. ---------------------- Yes well is this better posting??????????????? huh?????????????? I am in NZ and the posting is different here I cant read the whole thread as it automatically deletes itself after a new person sposts. > > > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > ---------------------- > Yes well is this better posting??????????????? huh?????????????? yes it is. i am glad you corrected your earlier style > I am in NZ and the posting is different here I cant read the whole > thread as it automatically deletes itself after a new person sposts. you can read it free in google or any number of other commercial places by looking at the references line of the posts of interests you cna track back to see who said what and when. you left my question unanswered for the 2nd time. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:FUPPd.1178$1S4.115766@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAA2F3C0D8keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:GPPPd.1167$1S4.115328@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCA92AAE9F7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > I think you should stop posting here > > > > > > > > > > really? good. i would defend your right to have opinions and > > > > > to assert them. > > > > > > > > > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? > > > > > > why did you respond and not answer the question? > > > > > > > > > > If you are the one who started > > > > > > > > > you can tell who started whatever you want by reading the thread. > > > you should learn how to do that *before* you post. > > > > ---------------------- > > Yes well is this better posting??????????????? huh?????????????? > > yes it is. i am glad you corrected your earlier style > > > > > I am in NZ and the posting is different here I cant read the whole > > thread as it automatically deletes itself after a new person sposts. > > > you can read it free in google or any number of other commercial places > by looking at the references line of the posts of interests you cna > track back to see who said what and when. > > you left my question unanswered for the 2nd time. --------------------- What right, to what??????????????? > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:FUPPd.1178$1S4.115766@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > What right, to what??????????????? if you're going to respond to a post, you should read it first, as you clearly did not do here. try again. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:A0QPd.1185$1S4.115867@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAB770DE2Ekeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:FUPPd.1178$1S4.115766@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCAA2F3C0D8keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > > > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:GPPPd.1167$1S4.115328@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > message > > > > > > news:Xns95FCA92AAE9F7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > > > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you should stop posting here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really? good. i would defend your right to have opinions > > > > > > > and to assert them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? > > > > > > > > > > why did you respond and not answer the question? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are the one who started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can tell who started whatever you want by reading the > > > > > thread. you should learn how to do that *before* you post. > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > Yes well is this better posting??????????????? > > > > huh?????????????? > > > > > > yes it is. i am glad you corrected your earlier style > > > > > > > > > > > I am in NZ and the posting is different here I cant read the > > > > whole thread as it automatically deletes itself after a new > > > > person sposts. > > > > > > > > > you can read it free in google or any number of other commercial > > > places by looking at the references line of the posts of interests > > > you cna track back to see who said what and when. > > > > > > you left my question unanswered for the 2nd time. > > > > --------------------- > > > > What right, to what??????????????? > > > if you're going to respond to a post, you should read it first, as you > clearly did not do here. > > try again. ------------------------------ Like I said my view must be different to your's > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:A0QPd.1185$1S4.115867@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Like I said my view must be different to your's on the contrary, you asked a question that was answered in the same post you responded to and ebfore you asked the question. that sugests you read too huriedly, as i suggested, or that you are, well, not interpreting what you read with common clarity. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:n3QPd.1187$1S4.116028@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAC41AF30Ekeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > news:A0QPd.1185$1S4.115867@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:Xns95FCAB770DE2Ekeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > news:FUPPd.1178$1S4.115766@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > message > > > > > > news:Xns95FCAA2F3C0D8keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > > > ++top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > > > news:GPPPd.1167$1S4.115328@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > > > message > > > > > > > > news:Xns95FCA92AAE9F7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > > > > > > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > > > > > > > > news:eHPPd.1161$1S4.115682@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you should stop posting here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really? good. i would defend your right to have > > > > > > > > > opinions and to assert them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd allow others that same right, would you not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why did you respond and not answer the question? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are the one who started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can tell who started whatever you want by reading the > > > > > > > thread. you should learn how to do that *before* you > > > > > > > post. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > Yes well is this better posting??????????????? > > > > > > huh?????????????? > > > > > > > > > > yes it is. i am glad you corrected your earlier style > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in NZ and the posting is different here I cant read > > > > > > the whole thread as it automatically deletes itself after > > > > > > a new person sposts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can read it free in google or any number of other > > > > > commercial places by looking at the references line of the > > > > > posts of interests you cna track back to see who said what and > > > > > when. > > > > > > > > > > you left my question unanswered for the 2nd time. > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > What right, to what??????????????? > > > > > > > > > if you're going to respond to a post, you should read it first, as > > > you clearly did not do here. > > > > > > try again. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Like I said my view must be different to your's > > > on the contrary, you asked a question that was answered in the same post > you responded to and ebfore you asked the question. > > that sugests you read too huriedly, as i suggested, or that you are, > well, not interpreting what you read with common clarity. ---------------------------- I have to read it quickly as I am very busy. DO you know what buys means????? > > > > on the contrary, you asked a question that was answered in the same > > post you responded to and ebfore you asked the question. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I have to read it quickly as I am very busy. > DO you know what buys means????? i know what ignorance, willful ignorance, is. > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > news:P7QPd.1189$1S4.115368@news.xtra.co.nz: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCACEF72B8Bkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > > on the contrary, you asked a question that was answered in the same > > > post you responded to and ebfore you asked the question. > > > > > > that sugests you read too huriedly, as i suggested, or that you > > > are, well, not interpreting what you read with common clarity. > > > > ---------------------------- > > I have to read it quickly as I am very busy. > > DO you know what buys means????? > > > i know what ignorance, willful ignorance, is. --------------------------- Please do you know what work is???????????????? > > "bookers" <BookerS@xtra.co.nz> wrote in > > news:P7QPd.1189$1S4.115368@news.xtra.co.nz: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Please do you know what work is???????????????? it is the opposite of what you have done in usenet newsgroups. >>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > can you tell readers what divine right empowers you to speak for her? You are calling the First Amendment a divine right? > perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same > disregard which you seem to treat all females? I am treating her with no disregard whatsoever. What makes you who posted something about supporting other women's right to have an abortion think that she is feeling the disregard that you are feeling? > have you considered that you might have a problem with women? No. Wanna no why? Because I treat them nicely. You, on the other hand, stand for the right to make them whores. >>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You are calling the First Amendment a divine right? you need to stop misrepresenting when someone asks you to defend one of your more outrageous actions. again, what divine right empowered you to speak for her? >> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same >> disregard which you seem to treat all females? > > I am treating her with no disregard whatsoever. certainly you are. you are speaking as if she has no mind, but you seem to do that to women often. >> have you considered that you might have a problem with women? > > No. you should, i think. >>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > again, what divine right empowered you to speak for her? So, again, you are regarding the First Amendment a divine right. Read the First Amendment. You are unfamiliar with the First Amendment? >>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same >>> disregard which you seem to treat all females? >> >> I am treating her with no disregard whatsoever. > > certainly you are. None whatsoever. You are bickering. > you are speaking as if she has no mind, but you seem > to do that to women often. Your mind thinks that what I post is treating people as if they have no mind of their own? Why do you make up invalid and unproveable statements? I do not recommend a woman's right to choose because it opens up a whole pandora's box of abuse of women and abuse of men who love them. >>> have you considered that you might have a problem with women? >> >> No. > > you should, i think. Why do you want to project your problem onto me? You who recommends abortion has the problem with women, in reality. If you had no problem with them you would not like them to have abortions. Why can't you get along with pregnant women? I know why. Because you want them to abort their pregnancies. Ur no better than any whoremonger with that attitude - a political weakling who will not stand up for pregnant women. > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > news:Xns95FCA904A1F33keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > > "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > > news:xGPPd.9938$pE1.3612@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > > > >> "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:Xns95FCA7E3B30E7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >>> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > >>> news:szPPd.9895$pE1.115@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > >>> > >>>> "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:Xns95FCA4A914A79keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >>>>> fantidou@hotmail.com (Alice) wrote in > >>>>> news:4ec62859.0502131259.78fbfbc0@posting.google.com: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > >>>>> > >>>>> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > >>>>> personal/medical decision > >>>> > >>>> NOPE! > >>> > >>> can you tell readers what divine right empowers you to speak for her? > >> > >> You are calling the First Amendment a divine right? > > > > > > you need to stop misrepresenting when someone asks you to defend one of > > your more outrageous actions. > > > > > > again, what divine right empowered you to speak for her? > > So, again, you are regarding the First Amendment a divine right. > Read the First Amendment. > You are unfamiliar with the First Amendment? > > >>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same > >>> disregard which you seem to treat all females? > >> > >> I am treating her with no disregard whatsoever. > > > > > > certainly you are. > > None whatsoever. > You are bickering. > > > you are speaking as if she has no mind, but you seem > > to do that to women often. > > Your mind thinks that what I post is treating people as if they have no mind > of their own? > Why do you make up invalid and unproveable statements? > I do not recommend a woman's right to choose because it opens up a whole > pandora's box of abuse of women and abuse of men who love them. > > >> > >>> have you considered that you might have a problem with women? > >> > >> No. > > > > you should, i think. > > Why do you want to project your problem onto me? > You who recommends abortion has the problem with women, in reality. > If you had no problem with them you would not like them to have abortions. > Why can't you get along with pregnant women? > I know why. > Because you want them to abort their pregnancies. > Ur no better than any whoremonger with that attitude - a political weakling > who will not stand up for pregnant women. --------------------------------- Go Johnny Some people are so nasty. I think the lady who started this post wanted advice not an arguement. Regards Chanelle > > >>>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > So, again, you are regarding the First Amendment a divine right. the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the views of others. you would have come across as less dishonest and far less misogynist by simply correcting yourself. >>>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same >>>> disregard which you seem to treat all females? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > None whatsoever. you denials carry little weight when your words refute them >> you are speaking as if she has no mind, but you seem >> to do that to women often. > > Your mind thinks that what I post is treating people as if they have > no mind of their own? they are yoru words, not mine, although i can understand why you would be ashamed of them >>>> have you considered that you might have a problem with women? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why do you want to project your problem onto me? you already know you need professional help. >>>>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the views > of others. Read it. My words are my words. I can say anything I want to say. Understand now? > you would have come across as less dishonest and far less misogynist by > simply correcting yourself. You would come off as having some understanding if you would observe the First Amendment instead of conjuring up some BS directed toward me as if I care nothing for the lady who is pregnant. BYE BYE! VAMOOOSE! No AU REVOIR intended. >>>>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the same >>>>> disregard which you seem to treat all females? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > you denials carry little weight when your words refute them Your lies carry NO weight. I have deviated none in this matter, yet you came in and posted something about how you support other women's right to choose abortion. Well, bucko, women do not need to abort any more. Did you know that? Women can carry their babies to term and the men who got them pregnant will be sadlded with the cost of caring for them. >>> you are speaking as if she has no mind, but you seem >>> to do that to women often. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they are yoru words, not mine, although i can understand why you would > be ashamed of them You are the person who shoudl be ashamed of yourself. You are FOR abortion on demand. >>>>> have you considered that you might have a problem with women? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > you already know you need professional help. You the one who puts you have more understanding than all your teachers at the bottom of your posts? LOL!!!!!!!! Obviously, you were never my student. >>>>>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Read it. "the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the views of others." >> you would have come across as less dishonest and far less misogynist >> by simply correcting yourself. > > You would come off as having some understanding if you would observe > the First Amendment "the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the views of others." >>>>>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the >>>>>> same disregard which you seem to treat all females? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your lies carry NO weight. johnny, johnny, when you keep lying about things your own words demonstrate, it makes you appear, well, a bit insane. > "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > news:HrQPd.10062$pE1.7815@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > > > "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns95FCAC1065516keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > >> news:wVPPd.10027$pE1.7161@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > >> > >>> "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > >>> news:Xns95FCA904A1F33keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >>>> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > >>>> news:xGPPd.9938$pE1.3612@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > >>>> > >>>>> "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:Xns95FCA7E3B30E7keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >>>>>> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in > >>>>>> news:szPPd.9895$pE1.115@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:Xns95FCA4A914A79keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4... > >>>>>>>> fantidou@hotmail.com (Alice) wrote in > >>>>>>>> news:4ec62859.0502131259.78fbfbc0@posting.google.com: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would never consider an abortion, no matter what. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hopefully, you'd support every woman's right to make the same > >>>>>>>> personal/medical decision > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> NOPE! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> can you tell readers what divine right empowers you to speak for > >>>>>> her? > >>>>> > >>>>> You are calling the First Amendment a divine right? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> you need to stop misrepresenting when someone asks you to defend > >>>> one of your more outrageous actions. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> again, what divine right empowered you to speak for her? > >>> > >>> So, again, you are regarding the First Amendment a divine right. > >> > >> > >> the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the > >> views of others. > > > > Read it. > > "the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the > views of others." > > > > >> you would have come across as less dishonest and far less misogynist > >> by simply correcting yourself. > > > > You would come off as having some understanding if you would observe > > the First Amendment > > > "the first amendment has nothing to do with your representing the > views of others." > > > >>>>>> perhaps, because she is a female, you're treating her with the > >>>>>> same disregard which you seem to treat all females? > >>>>> > >>>>> I am treating her with no disregard whatsoever. > >>>> > >>>> certainly you are. > >>> > >>> None whatsoever. > >> > >> > >> you denials carry little weight when your words refute them > > > > Your lies carry NO weight. > > johnny, johnny, when you keep lying about things your own words > demonstrate, it makes you appear, well, a bit insane. -------------------- James your insane sorry to say you tell everyone else they need help but maybe it is you that needs help. > |
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