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Silver-Solution to treat Alzheimers, Parkinsons and Prion diseases

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Archimedes Plutonium - 04 Feb 2005 21:15 GMT
Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:26:08 -0500 Marshall Dudley wrote:
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> Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>
>> Question Marshall: can this silver solution, whether colloidal or
>> ionic or whatever, and let us call it a silver solution. Can it be
>> transported into the brain? I mean, will the blood brain barrier
>> stop this silver solution from getting into the brain?
>
> There has been a lot of discussion on this issue on other lists.  A
> couple of references indicate that silver is stopped by the blood
> brain barrier, but there are many on these lists that do not support
> that view. I have looked for several years for definitive data on that
> issue and have been unable to find anything.  To add to the confusion,
> there is at least one reference that indicates that the citrate form
> of metals, such as silver will allow them to cross the barrier, but at
> least for silver, maintaining a citrate form of the ionic portion
> should be impossible once it is exposed to the HCl in the stomach and
> the NaCl in the blood.  Also the reference I found that indicated that
> silver does not cross the barrier also indicated that silver is toxic
> to brain cells, but I can find absolutely not real research on the
> issue.

I have a hunch that a silver solution is not toxic to the brain cells,
but that it is only impossible to breach the blood-brain-barrier. So
that once the proper solution and dosage is figured out, and injected
into the brain that its health benefits would take place.

>> The reason I want to know is to try experiments to see if this
>> Silver Solution can cure Alzheimers, Parkinsons and Prion diseases.
>> Because if silver can kill bacteria and to some extent fungus then
>> it may kill the microbe that causes Parkinsons for it is known that
>> bacteria and fungus cause Parkinsons. It is not yet known whether
>> some microbe causes Alzheimers and Prion but I am confident that
>> microbes will be found to cause them also.
>
> Most modern day Pakinsons I believe is actually misdiagnosed aspertame
> poisoning, also known as Rumsfield disease.  For those people, simply
> avoiding this neurotoxin is sufficient to reverse the "disease" for
> those that have not sustained sufficient damage. Many of us feel that
> Michael Fox, spokesman for diet Pepsi, who drinks a lot of these is
> one such case. I have heard reports of stopping the progression of
> Parkenson's and some recovery with silver, but have no first hand
> experience with that.  With diseases of that nature, simply killing
> the pathogen is not sufficient for full recovery if too much damage is
> done.

No, the cause of Parkinsons is well-water containing various species of
bacteria and fungus. Mr. Fox and his friends picked up their Parkinsons
from various wells in Canada. And the reason that Parkinsons is
concentrated in the Midwest of USA is of the proclivity of well-water.

> The general consensus of those who are researching "silver solution"
> is that it has no effect on Alzheimers or prion diseases.  It may help
> prevent Alzheimers if Alzheimers is caused by a pathogen, but then
> again it may not if it does not cross the blood brain barrier.
> Testing for prevention would definitely be a long term study which has
> not to my knowledge ever been done.  As far a prion diseases such as
> mad cow, I consider it extremely unlikely that it would have any
> effect. These are misfolded proteins, and are not alive by any
> definition of the word I know of, and I am not aware of any indication
> that they are related to microbes at all.

The misfolded proteins in Prion disease whether CJD or MadCow or sheep
scrapie are all symptoms or aftermath of the microbe that causes the
disease, much like alpha-synuclein protein is an aftermath of microbes
that cause Parkinsons and much like the beta-amyloid protein is an
aftermath of the microbes that cause Alzheimers.

>> And since silver is claimed to restore damaged cells revert back to
>> stem cell quality and restore the cell and tissue, makes me rather
>> hope and think that perhaps silver solution in the brain of a
>> Parkinsons or Alzheimers or Prion victims perhaps just may restore
>> them back to original health.
>
> Many people on the silver list that I am a member of likely have
> relatives who have Alzheimers. I have never heard of anyone ever
> getting better. You may be right that it would allow repair if it got
> in the brain, but if it does not cross the barrier, then that will not
> occur, and if it did cross the barrier, then it would likely be toxic
> to brain cells.

We have to first find out if silver-solution when injected into brains
will cure and remit the Alzheimers disease. For this we have mice that
can be genetically engineered to possess Alzheimers disease. Then we
inject a silver solution into the brains of those mice since it will not
cross the brain barrier and wait to see if it remits Alzheimers in mice.

It has been reported that mice can be induced with Parkinsons via well
water bacteria and fungus. So we have an available experimental source
of these mice to inject silver solution and see if it cures them.

>> So I am willing to experiment on a Silver Solution into Parkinsons
>> and Alzheimers and Prion victims because it kills microbes and it
>> restores damaged cells to original health. But I am not sure if
>> Silver Solution can get beyond the blood-brain barrier?
>
> My opinion is that it does not.  But I have not proof nor can I find
> any research that supports or invalidates that position.
>
>> So would one have to inject a silver solution directly into the
>> brain?
>
> I would NOT consider doing that!  If it does not cross the blood brain
> barrier, then it likely is a toxin to brain cells.  Before any
> researcher ever considered doing that, then animal studies should
> certainly be done.  Now many people have received silver by IV without
> any negative consequences, but I would never consider injecting
> directly into the brain.

As for Prion disease we have plenty of scrapie sheep to experiment with
a silver solution injection into the brains. If silver has the ability
to redifferentiate malign DNA or reversion of malign cells to that of
stem cell then silver may provide a cure for Prion, Parkinsons and
Alzheimers. It is guaranteed that silver has a microbe killing capacity
but if it has a stem cell reversion capacity then silver may just be a
beautiful cure all of these diseases.

>> Of course the experiments would be on mice, not humans, and if all
>> successful that Silver Solutions do indeed solve these diseases then
>> upgrade and experiment on humans.
>
> Oh, yeh, for mice, sure you might give it a try. Be sure to do a
> control group since it is likely that it is toxic to brain cells. But
> do mice get Parkinsons and Alzheimers?
>
> If you do this research I would love to hear the results. Also if you
> can, give the mice some orally and then biopsy the brain to see if it
> crosses the barrier or not. This is just the kind of research that
> needs but be done, but it will not be done by the pharms since there
> is no money in it unless it can be patented.  I am not sure if you can
> say categorically that if it does not does not pass the barrier in a
> mouse, the same would apply to a human, but I think it most likely
> that they would behave the same.
>
> Marshall

Marshall, I will not be doing these experiments, only in mind not hand,
for the practicality that I am not set up to do any such experiments,
especially the handling of such dangerous particles as Prion disease.

It is my words of guidance that I play a active role in these
experiments. We have two claims on Silver Solution. We are guaranteed of
it being a killer of microbes and we have a claim of reversion to stem
cell of malignant DNA. If both those claims are true in whole or part
then there is a possibility that Silver Solution can cure Prion,
Alzheimers and Parkinsons provided they are injected beyond the blood
brain barrier.

Mice will do just fine for Parkinsons and Alzheimers and sheep will do
for Prion experiments. Perhaps even a Mad Cow will do for prion
experiment but given the sensitivity of MadCow disease I suspect too
much media would make it untenable.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
Marshall Dudley - 04 Feb 2005 22:21 GMT
> Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:26:08 -0500 Marshall Dudley wrote:(some snipping to
> save space)
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> from various wells in Canada. And the reason that Parkinsons is
> concentrated in the Midwest of USA is of the proclivity of well-water.

I did not say that Parkensons is caused by Aspertame poisoning. I said that
many people diagnosed as having Parkensons are really diagnosed and actually
have Rumsfeld's disease.  Those will improve greatly when they stop using
aspertame, the actual cases will not improve.

> > The general consensus of those who are researching "silver solution"
> > is that it has no effect on Alzheimers or prion diseases.  It may help
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> that cause Parkinsons and much like the beta-amyloid protein is an
> aftermath of the microbes that cause Alzheimers.

I don't think this is proven.  I do think that Alzheimers may be a prion
disease though, many similarites.  There are those who think that one of the
causes of mad cow is if I remember right, phosphate fertalizers. But I am
not aware of any proof of that either.

> >> And since silver is claimed to restore damaged cells revert back to
> >> stem cell quality and restore the cell and tissue, makes me rather
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> water bacteria and fungus. So we have an available experimental source
> of these mice to inject silver solution and see if it cures them.

Go for it. I would love to hear the results.  Be sure to document what you
do very well.

> >> So I am willing to experiment on a Silver Solution into Parkinsons
> >> and Alzheimers and Prion victims because it kills microbes and it
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> but if it has a stem cell reversion capacity then silver may just be a
> beautiful cure all of these diseases.

Give it a shot. I doubt it will be effective, but if it is I would be very
pleasantly surprised.  Don't let my doubts stop you, if you are right that
would be a major breakthrough.

> >> Of course the experiments would be on mice, not humans, and if all
> >> successful that Silver Solutions do indeed solve these diseases then
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> for the practicality that I am not set up to do any such experiments,
> especially the handling of such dangerous particles as Prion disease.

There is the species barrier.  As long as the species are quite distant,
than any prions from one are unlikely to affect the other.  If it were not
true then probably 90% of the population of Britian would have it.

> It is my words of guidance that I play a active role in these
> experiments. We have two claims on Silver Solution. We are guaranteed of
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> experiment but given the sensitivity of MadCow disease I suspect too
> much media would make it untenable.

Well real experiments would need to be run. Mental excercises are only a
first step.

Marshall

> Archimedes Plutonium
> www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
> of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
 
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