I have begun taking salmon oil (Steve Harris) and also eat fatty fish
at least four times a week. I wonder if there is such a thing as too
low a triglyceride level and if so, what the problems might be with
that. My unmedicated triclyerides are exceptionally low.
Zee
GaryG - 31 Jan 2005 17:09 GMT
> I have begun taking salmon oil (Steve Harris) and also eat fatty fish
> at least four times a week. I wonder if there is such a thing as too
> low a triglyceride level and if so, what the problems might be with
> that. My unmedicated triclyerides are exceptionally low.
>
> Zee
Your triglycerides should be fine, but I've seen reports recently of people
who eat lots of fish, and pop lots of fish pills, experiencing neurological
problems. The reported neurologic symptoms include tremors, headaches,
short-term memory loss, incoordination, weakness, loss of appetite, altered
sense of taste and smell, numbness and tingling in the hands and feet,
insomnia, and excessive sweating. Research into the causes points to mercury
contamination, due to the long-term effects of fish consumption.
But, hey, it's fish oil...it's natural right? And regulated and inspected
by the FDA? So, you'll probably be fine...unless you're not.
With tongure firmly in cheek.
GG
Zee - 31 Jan 2005 17:43 GMT
It is wild Alaska salmon oil, and yes, apparently tested for those
substances. I will only take one 1000 mg capsule until I have finished
this bottle then Gary. Just to see how it goes.
This is a departure for me. I do not take supplements or vitamins,
apart from folate and b complex.
Zee
> > I have begun taking salmon oil (Steve Harris) and also eat fatty fish
> > at least four times a week. I wonder if there is such a thing as too
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>
> GG
William Wagner - 31 Jan 2005 18:10 GMT
> It is wild Alaska salmon oil, and yes, apparently tested for those
> substances. I will only take one 1000 mg capsule until I have finished
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Zee
Wild has a nice ring to it and farm raised with god knows what sounds
yucky! But as I understand it some of the most contaminated places
on earth reside in the arctic circle. Seems winds carry PCB?s etc up
north and deposit the nastiest things about. The food chain then
enable fat fish to concentrate the poisons. We smart humans are at
the top and thus enjoy the spoil first hand. Breast milk of local
arctic people is higher in modern toxins then the local folks who
generated the poisons.
Weird Eh? So tread lightly (Drive less use less war less) or our heart
meds may do us in.
PS Still try to purchase wild stuff as I am in denial of above.
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Jim Chinnis - 31 Jan 2005 18:33 GMT
William Wagner <No1SpamStill__B2wagner@snip.net> wrote in part:
> Wild has a nice ring to it and farm raised with god knows what sounds
>yucky! But as I understand it some of the most contaminated places
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>arctic people is higher in modern toxins then the local folks who
>generated the poisons.
The main cardio benefit to eating fish appears to be from the fat. Salmon are
less contaminated than are larger species, as they are farther down the food
chain. Mercury does not accumulate in the fat, so the fish oil capsules are
safe on that score. Mercury is pretty uniformly distributed on the earth's
surface, as it comes from power plant emissions and these circle the globe. A
recent study showed that a good bit of the mercury in a Vermont lake came from
China.
According to recent data, the wild fish are less contaminated in general than
the farmed. They also are quite different in terms of fatty acids, since they
develop on completely different diets. The cardio benefits (n-3 fats) would be
greater from the wild fish.
Additionally, farmed fish such as salmon that have a connection with seawater
are transmitting disease to wild fish.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
George - 01 Feb 2005 04:00 GMT
Consumers Reports did an article a year or 2 ago on the benefits of
fish consumption and fish oil. They had independant labs analyze 15
or so brands of salmon and other fish oils and concluded that there
were virtually no toxins found in any of the brands they tested and
surmized that the fish oil products were "safe" in terms of toxins
like mercury, PCBs etc.
ironjustice@aol.com - 01 Feb 2005 14:37 GMT
No mercury .. here ..
<<snip>>
after only 2 weeks, PI may have a comparable therapeutic value to
niacin
<<snip>>
J Lipid Res. 2004 Dec 1; [Epub ahead of print] Related Articles, Links
Phosphatidylinositol raises HDL cholesterol levels in humans.
Burgess JW, Neville TA, Rouillard P, Harder Z, Beanlands DS, Sparks
DL.
Studies have shown that phosphatidylinositol (PI) can stimulate
reverse
cholesterol transport by enhancing the flux of cholesterol into HDL
and by
promoting the transport of HDL-cholesterol to the liver and bile. The
goal of
this study was to determine the safety and therapeutic value of PI
following
oral administration to normolipidemic human subjects. We performed a
randomized
2 week study in 16 normolipidemic subjects. Subjects received either
2.8 g or
5.6 g of PI, with or without food. PI was well tolerated by all
subjects. PI
significantly affected the levels of HDL-C and triglyceride in the
plasma of
subjects receiving PI with food. The lower dose showed a 13% increase
in HDL-C,
while those on the high dose showed an increase of 18% over the 2 week
period.
Both low and high dose groups showed significant elevations in plasma
apoA-I.
The high dose of PI also decreased plasma triglycerides by 36% in the
fed
subjects. The data suggest that after only 2 weeks, PI may have a
comparable
therapeutic value to niacin, with negligible side effects.
PMID: 15576836 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 Feb 2005 08:59 GMT
> I have begun taking salmon oil (Steve Harris) and also eat fatty fish
> at least four times a week. I wonder if there is such a thing as too
> low a triglyceride level and if so, what the problems might be with
> that. My unmedicated triclyerides are exceptionally low.
>
> Zee
There is no such thing.
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Andrew
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