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Medical Forum / General / General / January 2005Predicted measles outbreak Oct 31, 2003 [Still waiting for this one, Jan 2005]
http://www.whale.to/a/daily.html "I have lectured all over the world... I have always had a special interest in newspapers. All of them have one thing in common, there is always some reference made to some epidemic in some part of the world. For instance, two years ago, one paper referred to a polio epidemic in Holland. For the past three years, our newspapers have commented on the diphtheria epidemic in Russia. By these means, the population is constantly threatened with epidemics, they have been made to fear them, and the reports always conclude: "Go and get vaccinated".--Dr Buchwald MD I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are 700,000 cases of measles globally each year. > http://www.whale.to/a/daily.html > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > epidemics, they have been made to fear them, and the reports always > conclude: "Go and get vaccinated".--Dr Buchwald MD >I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are >700,000 cases of measles globally each year. Small correction: This is 700,000 measles DEATHS per year. PF > >I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are > >700,000 cases of measles globally each year. > > Small correction: This is 700,000 measles DEATHS per year. If you guys are going to pluck a number from thin air (aka. a lie) at least get together and agree on a figure "Measles kills 1 million worldwide"---Liam Donaldson, Chief Medical Officer, Sunday Times Jan 28, 2001 >>I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are >>700,000 cases of measles globally each year. > >Small correction: This is 700,000 measles DEATHS per year. John will dodge this, of course. He'll claim that measles is harmless unless treated, as long as the victims are well-nourished. (Which is usually true, but not always.) Of course, this completely dodges the question of "what shall we do for those who we cannot guarantee good nourishment." John never answers this question except to claim that measles vaccine doesn't work, a claim so ludicrously false that it's hard to imagine anyone taking it seriously. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT) Yes, that's deaths. You're supposed to read what I *mean*, not what I *write*! > I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are > 700,000 cases of measles globally each year. It's not my fault if you can't get it. No measles epidemic here, UK, over a year after they predicted one. What happens in the third world is irrelevant to the UK and firsat world countries--as poverty is the main cuase of measles deaths. Oh, and I don't believe that figure of 700,000 deaths anyway, it is a lie to sell vaccination in the first world, mostly. "According to government, measles was a threat to national interest, claiming more than 40,000 lives every year (a statistic which is laughable since most people who get measles stay at home and treat it and the majority of sick people go to private clinics that do not keep records this figure was of course trumped up). This of course is a questionable statistic since the majority of deaths in Uganda are not registered and few parents remember any measles death. No point in registering a person once he has died. Forty thousand people are far much less than those killed in Uganda annually due to the civil war, dwarfs the figure for malaria, which kills a child every five second and for which governments is happy to ignore.......The forcing of them to take a vaccine against a disease they know to be harmless and which they know how to cure in its harmful state was seen as government hell bent on killing its own population for the benefit of commanding whiteworld. All village people know that once you have recovered from measles you will never catch it again, but here they were telling people to vaccinate even those who have recovered from measles. "--Kihura Nkuba 2003 http://www.whale.to/a/kihura.htm For the "Non-pharma shill compliments of the W.H.O. website... " Despite the availability of a safe, effective, inexpensive vaccine for over 40 years, measles remains the leading vaccine-preventable killer of children. In 1999, the benchmark year, some 869 000 people - mostly children - died of measles. In 2002 1, measles killed an estimated 610 000 people, a decline of 30%. "This is great news. Countries are to be commended for their efforts to fight measles-- efforts that are truly paying off," said UNICEF Executive Director Carol Bellamy. Since 1999, almost 260 000 deaths per year have been prevented, she noted. "But we have to keep up the work and the funding as still far too many children's lives are lost to measles." > I don't see "measles" anywhere in your post. Despite this, there are > 700,000 cases of measles globally each year. It's not my fault if you can't get it. No measles epidemic here, UK, over a year after they predicted one. What happens in the third world is irrelevant to the UK and firsat world countries--as poverty is the main cuase of measles deaths. Oh, and I don't believe that figure of 700,000 deaths anyway, it is a lie to sell vaccination in the first world, mostly. "According to government, measles was a threat to national interest, claiming more than 40,000 lives every year (a statistic which is laughable since most people who get measles stay at home and treat it and the majority of sick people go to private clinics that do not keep records this figure was of course trumped up). This of course is a questionable statistic since the majority of deaths in Uganda are not registered and few parents remember any measles death. No point in registering a person once he has died. Forty thousand people are far much less than those killed in Uganda annually due to the civil war, dwarfs the figure for malaria, which kills a child every five second and for which governments is happy to ignore.......The forcing of them to take a vaccine against a disease they know to be harmless and which they know how to cure in its harmful state was seen as government hell bent on killing its own population for the benefit of commanding whiteworld. All village people know that once you have recovered from measles you will never catch it again, but here they were telling people to vaccinate even those who have recovered from measles. "--Kihura Nkuba 2003 http://www.whale.to/a/kihura.htm > "This is great news. Countries are to be commended for their efforts to > fight measles-- efforts that are truly paying off," said UNICEF Executive > Director Carol Bellamy. Since 1999, almost 260 000 deaths per year have been > prevented, she noted. "But we have to keep up the work and the funding as > still far too many children's lives are lost to measles." Nice if it was true http://www.whale.to/b/genocide_vax_q.html "It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa, South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving children...They thought they were wiping out measles, but most of those susceptible to measles died from some other disease that they developed as a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their immune levels and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis, etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from malnutrition. So there were very few susceptible infants left alive to get measles. It's one way to get good statistics, kill all those that are susceptible, which is what they literally did." --Dr Kalokerinos, M.D. "But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but it's true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests."--Jon Rappoport interview He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests."--Jon Rappoport interview So the WHO is trying to kill millions of innocent people? Try a credible source for your argument. By the way, Oliver Stone was wrong about the Kennedy assassination, don't put any teeth you lose under your pillow, the Easter Bunny isn't real, and there are no trolls living under the bridge. They seem to have taken up residence in an otherwise respectable newsgroup. > He told me that WHO is a front for these > depopulation interests."--Jon Rappoport interview > > So the WHO is trying to kill millions of innocent people? Try a credible > source for your argument. By the way, Oliver Stone was wrong about the It's not my fault if you are uninformed, try someone on the ground http://www.whale.to/a/nkuba_h.html or an MD who has spent a life among third world people http://www.whale.to/vaccines/kalokerinos.html or an MD who has researched the subject http://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot2.html plus many others like Cantwell MD http://www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html or research the depopulation agenda http://www.whale.to/b/population.html or the real facts on smallpox vaccination over 200 years http://www.whale.to/a/lymph2.html etc etc You just appear ignorant to the informed however much you sound off Reference something other that "whale.crap" and maybe I'll give serious consideration. > Reference something other that "whale.crap" and maybe I'll give serious > consideration. The proper term is whale.bilge and John is the owner of that website, which is the largest suppository of mis- and dis-information on all of usenet. > Reference something other that "whale.crap" and maybe I'll give serious > consideration. Oh yeah, you aint going to risk bursting that reality bubble I'd love to believe, like I did once, there was only a lone gunman, Bush & Blair are the good guys, Saddam was going to nuke the UK, vaccines are safe and effective, drugs are the only effective med, the cause of alzheimer's is a mystery, cancer, heart disease, arthritis, are incurable etc, but I woke up. I like the coffee too much I guess, and I wanted to grow up, if only to make it better for my kids. The only thing that is preventing your reality bubble from bursting is the multiple layers of aluminum foil you keep wrapped around your head. Everything is a conspiracy and you seem to be the self annointed keeper of the secrets. Fat chance. > The only thing that is preventing your reality bubble from bursting is the > multiple layers of aluminum foil you keep wrapped around your head. > Everything is a conspiracy and you seem to be the self annointed keeper of > the secrets. Fat chance. Yawn. "Whenever I hear the words "conspiracy theory" it usually means someone is getting too close to the truth."----- former CIA employee, Michael Hasty > Reference something other that "whale.crap" and maybe I'll > give > serious consideration. He references stuff all the time. They are uniformly books and Internet articles written by well known whackos. Occaisionaly he misrepresents a conventional study. Usually if you Google the author you can find nice rebuttals and expose's on other sites. The fun part is, if you have time, going through and reading his references. They often don't suppport his POV and frequently conflict with each other. One will claim that pestisides cause a disease, the other will say it is imunizations, and then a third will say the whole thing never existed. he has ben known to be arguing against vaccines and to give a link to an article whose title sounds critical but once read turns out to support the opposing side. He probably doesn't read, and certainly doesn't understand, much of the what he quotes. It is amazing how John can simultaneously firmly believe that something that never existed is caused by immunizations. It has been termed "double think."  Signature00doc > He told me that WHO is a front for these >depopulation interests."--Jon Rappoport interview [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Easter Bunny isn't real, and there are no trolls living under the bridge. >They seem to have taken up residence in an otherwise respectable newsgroup. It's OK to keep trying, but bear in mind that John-boy is a hard-core lunatic and will find a way to disregard anything that conflicts with his whacko worldview. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT) ... Measles is being spread in an area hit by the tsunami: http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/38292.htm So, John Scudamore, what are you doing to help the victems of the tsunami? Oh, yeah... not a problem: http://www.dailynews.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=500&fArticleId=2373505 And let us not forget the problem with mumps: http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=15060073& method=full&siteid=50002&headline=mumps-epidemic-sweeping-midlands-name_page.htm l Some stupid paper has a report that says that there should be an epidemic on Halloween, 2003. Why should we care? Do you beleive everything you read? Jeff >http://www.whale.to/a/daily.html > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >epidemics, they have been made to fear them, and the reports always >conclude: "Go and get vaccinated".--Dr Buchwald MD And good advice it is, too. But the last polio outbreak in the Netherlands was quite some time ago, so as usual, John is recycling his ancient swill without telling us. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT) |
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