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habshi - 09 Jan 2005 19:54 GMT
    One of these coke heads who can now get a hit cheaper than a
cup of coffee ,  could terminate your life by driving into you when on
a high . Society has to protect itself from this menace . A kind of
two strike and you are out works the best .
    On a second conviction ie finding of drugs in the blood , the
addict would be put in jail , cold turkey , and keep him there until
he tells the name of the supplier and until that supplier gets jailed
.
Soon all the dealers would be in jail and the menace would end , and
these jailed dealers would be outsourced to a third world country
where they know how to treat those who want to destroy our society.

excerpt observer.co.uk

Cocaine now cheaper than a cappuccino

Mark Townsend and Vanessa Thorpe
Sunday January 9, 2005
The Observer

The failure of the government's policy to stem drug imports is
revealed today by research which shows that Britain is awash with
cheap drugs, with a line of cocaine now costing less than a
cappuccino.
The price of ecstasy, heroin, crack, cocaine and cannabis has tumbled
to a record low in the last year, as dealers pumped ever greater
quantities onto the market, encouraging hundreds of thousands of
people to become regular users.

The failure by customs and police to smash trafficking gangs and cut
off supplies to the streets is an embarrassment for Tony Blair.

He recently announced longer sentences for dealers and stronger powers
for the courts, the latest in a string of attempts to control the
burgeoning trade.

Yet despite such efforts, the price of ecstasy has plummeted by 70 per
cent over the last decade to ?3.50 a pill, according to figures
compiled by the Independent Drugs Monitoring Unit.

In certain areas, users - some of whom have become so hardened to the
chemicals that they take up to 20 tablets a night - are being offered
the drug for just ?2.

During last year the cost of a rock of crack fell by more than a fifth
to ?10, its largest annual fall since the drug reached Britain during
the Eighties. Rocks, each about the size of a white, waxy pea, are
effectively cocaine in smokeable form and typically give users one or
two hits.

The statistics reveal the changing profile of drug- taking in Britain.
Typical of the new breed of users are those who split a gram of
cocaine with friends most weekends while experts also warn of clubbers
who are increasingly spurning ecstasy in favour of crack.

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The monitoring unit is the UK's leading authority on the street value
of narcotics and their consumption. It surveyed 2,056 people at music
festivals and gigs last year, with the results for 2004 collated in
recent days.

Researchers found there were regional disparities in the cost of
drugs. Cocaine, for example, is dearest in East Anglia, at ?47 a gram,
and cheapest in the north-east, at ?39. Increasingly, users are paying
under ?40. Users can eke out up to 20 lines - each one giving a
feeling of self-confidence and alertness for around 20 minutes - from
one gram. This equates to about ?2.25 a line, cheaper than a
cappuccino in many cafes. Addicts, however, often split a gram into
just five lines.

'Traditionally we have a much higher rate of drug use than other
countries. We are starting at a higher rate and that has gone up even
more,' said Matthew Atha, who compiled the report. 'The industry
appears to be booming, although there are signs it may be bottoming
out.'

For example, the price of an eighth of resin, enough to make around 20
joints of the brown-coloured, often low-grade cannabis, fell only
marginally last year, yet is almost 50 per cent cheaper than 1995. The
price of heroin has fallen considerably, and it is more than a third
lower than in the mid-Nineties.

However, Atha said that an unusually cheap batch of the opiate last
year - selling at just ?12 a gram - may have skewed the figure
downwards. His report attempted to quantify the number of regular drug
users in the UK, those who take illicit substances at least once a
month. Cannabis remains most widely used, with almost 600,000 frequent
users feeding a market worth ?978m. Half of the supply is now grown in
the UK.

Cocaine remains the second most popular drug. It has 237,000 frequent
users, slightly fewer than the number of crack and heroin addicts
combined. Ecstasy has just over 76,000 regular users, considerably
fewer than suspected. One theory behind ecstasy's rapidly dwindling
street value is that dealers have been trying to reinvigorate demand
as the drug fades from fashion. However, when the numbers of people
who took an illegal substance during 2004 are examined, the totals
soar to more than 400,000 for ecstasy, 2.3 million for cannabis and
580,000 for cocaine.

Despite the falling costs, the amount spent by UK users remains
sizeable. For instance, in an 'average month' a regular cocaine user
will spend almost ?170 on the drug. Crack and heroin addicts part with
more than ?440.
habshi - 09 Jan 2005 19:59 GMT
    Nearly all crime commited nowadays is by drug addicts,
so jailing them merely for being intoxicated is fair .
P.Snot - 09 Jan 2005 21:43 GMT
>    Nearly all crime commited nowadays is by drug addicts,
>so jailing them merely for being intoxicated is fair .

What a crap.  I state analogously:
All habshi's nowadays are posting bollocks, so death penalty for them
is fair.
Damn, I'm only a few weeks into the sci.med groups and all I see are
frustros seeking for some sensation and attention  by crossposting
nonsense statements without arguments or nuances, or by dumping loads
and loads of abstracts (or worse, newspaper articles) without any
sense, meaning or view.  

P
Codex Twin - 09 Jan 2005 20:37 GMT
> One of these coke heads who can now get a hit cheaper than a
> cup of coffee ,  could terminate your life by driving into you when on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> these jailed dealers would be outsourced to a third world country
> where they know how to treat those who want to destroy our society.

You stupid reactionary Indian Hindoo c.nt.
Addicts don't need to jailing, they need treatment and medication.
habshi - 10 Jan 2005 20:15 GMT
    A friend of mine is a doctor and has had four burgalaries in
three years . If everyone in the country was dna tested , the
criminals would be terrified of leaving any trace.
    She tells me that many of her drug addict patients confess
that they finance their activities with crime .  Would informing the
police be breaking confidentiality or is that confined to only medical
matters ?.
Codex Twin - 10 Jan 2005 21:05 GMT
> A friend of mine is a doctor and has had four burgalaries in
> three years . If everyone in the country was dna tested , the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> police be breaking confidentiality or is that confined to only medical
> matters ?.

From what you have said, the following conclusions can be made:

Some burglars are drug addicts therefore all the doctor's burglaries are by
drug addicts.
The doctor's burglaries are by her drug addict patients.
The doctor is a drug addict herself
You, Habshit, are a burglar.
habshi - 10 Jan 2005 22:41 GMT
    Sorry , not going to debate with you till you learn to trim
the quotes . What idiocy is this to fill threads with millions of
lines of quotes?
Gulshan Khan (wada-Sain) - 10 Jan 2005 23:31 GMT
>    Sorry , not going to debate with you till you learn to trim
>the quotes . What idiocy is this to fill threads with millions of
>lines of quotes?

All you have to do is nail moron to the wall and "it" will bitch
quotes quotes quotes... You nail nusRAT to the wall and "it" will
start shouting burqa burqa burqa.. you nail an average indoo to the
wall and "it" will start paki paki paki blah blah blah profanity
profanity profanity....  Just STFU Mo(RON)
P.Snot - 11 Jan 2005 08:59 GMT
>    Sorry , not going to debate with you till you learn to trim
>the quotes . What idiocy is this to fill threads with millions of
>lines of quotes?

bullshit, you can't even quote yourself.  reply UNDER the quote.

btw, idiot debate, i wonder if there is only one doctor here
participating in this nonsense.
stewy - 03 Feb 2005 09:50 GMT
anyone4tennis@hotmail.com wrote:

> One of these coke heads who can now get a hit cheaper than a
> cup of coffee ,  could terminate your life by driving into you when on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> these jailed dealers would be outsourced to a third world country
> where they know how to treat those who want to destroy our society.

Right. Let's keep narcotics off the streets while softening the drinking
hours for pubs and clubs. Wise thinking there my boy. Have you been down to
the city centre of Anytown around 11pm? It's full of well-behaved citizens
returning home after binging on booze all evening...

Have you ever seen people riot after taking too much cannabis, exstacy or
cocaine? No? Well, why the hell not? Could it be that these narcotics are
not the anti-social menaces people like you claim they are? Perhaps if
people start using a combination of legal medicines to get a buzz, should we
make cough mixture, paracetamol, tea and coffee illegal? But leave our booze
and ciggies alone, thank you very much?

I can tell you've had a very deprived childhood and you don't want anyone
else having a bit of fun. Life is deadly serious isn't it - because you are
serious, you believe you'll live forever, don't you?
habshi - 03 Feb 2005 23:28 GMT
    anyobody found drunk on the street or with high blood levels
should be fined $100
harmony - 10 Feb 2005 19:22 GMT
let alla come into your life; you will be drug free.
alla doesn't like drugs and kafirs.

> anyone4tennis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> else having a bit of fun. Life is deadly serious isn't it - because you are
> serious, you believe you'll live forever, don't you?
 
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