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Tetanus shots questions

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James Landle - 29 Nov 2004 07:43 GMT
3 days ago. I stepped on a nail indoor in the
morning. I researched the whole day in the
internet and planned not to have any vaccine shot.
But when I read the part that the tetanus toxin
can bind to the nerves permanently and the only
way to remove it is to grow new axons. I decided
to take the shots rather than spending 30 years
have chronic spasms which would make walking like
dancing.. this is provided you survive the
breathing stoppage and heart attack. So I went to
the emergency room and get tetagam tetanus
immunoglobulin and tetavax 0.5ml tetanus vaccine.

Looking back. I should have taken the
immunoglobulin only. I learned the aluminum
hydroxide adjuvant is not good. However, I read that
one has to get a second shot a month later and
third shot 6 months later for full immunity. But I
don't think I need full immunity. I mean, all the
hundreds of adults I know never got vaccinated and
never got tetanus. So can I just avoid the second
and third shot? Is there side effect from only 1
shot taken and not completed??

Also I can't understand the mechanism whereby
tetanus vaccine shots can sometimes cause adverse
reaction like this woman who developed autoimmune
neuropathy. Can anyone point out the mechanism of
how this could have occured?? How can taking
tetanus bacteria with toxins removed and your body
producing antibodies to it results in neuropathy,
etc. Anyone?

James
Happy Dog - 29 Nov 2004 08:39 GMT
"James Landle" <jameslandle@yahoo.com>

> Looking back. I should have taken the
> immunoglobulin only. I learned the aluminum
> hydroxide adjuvant is not good.

Why so?

> However, I read that
> one has to get a second shot a month later and
> third shot 6 months later for full immunity.

That is the Hep B schedule for adults over 20.  It's a good idea too if you
have any of the risk factors (and almost everyone does).

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/2081ab.htm

> Also I can't understand the mechanism whereby
> tetanus vaccine shots can sometimes cause adverse
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> producing antibodies to it results in neuropathy,
> etc. Anyone?

Hepatitus baccination,  Read up.

moo
john - 29 Nov 2004 17:49 GMT
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.html

> 3 days ago. I stepped on a nail indoor in the
> morning. I researched the whole day in the
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>
> James
PF Riley - 30 Nov 2004 05:08 GMT
>3 days ago. I stepped on a nail indoor in the
>morning. I researched the whole day in the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>and third shot? Is there side effect from only 1
>shot taken and not completed??

The reason to get the vaccine to is so that next time, if it's within
5 years for a dirty wound or 10 years for a not-so-dirty wound, you
won't need to get immunoglobulin. Immunoglobulin can cause anaphylaxis
or serum sickness. I would choose an aluminum adjuvant vaccine over
antibody injections any day.

>Also I can't understand the mechanism whereby
>tetanus vaccine shots can sometimes cause adverse
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>producing antibodies to it results in neuropathy,
>etc. Anyone?

It's not the tetanus bacteria with the toxins removed. It's the toxin,
inactivated, that the vaccine is made of.

PF
 
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