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Coca Cola Causing Diabetes.

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TheBarber - 28 Nov 2004 19:29 GMT
I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes. Can someone please
tell me if coca cola can cause diabetes, and if so, how much per day
would be bad for you?
Jim Chinnis - 28 Nov 2004 19:41 GMT
tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:

>I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
>the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes. Can someone please
>tell me if coca cola can cause diabetes, and if so, how much per day
>would be bad for you?

Yes. Drinking Coca-Cola is probably a major contributor to the epidemic of
diabetes. In my opinion, any at all is bad for you. Switch to whole foods and
natural foods if you want to avoid diabetes.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
Jeff - 28 Nov 2004 20:12 GMT
> tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> and
> natural foods if you want to avoid diabetes.

There is nothing particularly good (or bad) about whole foods and natural
foods.

Also, make sure you get plenty of excercise and keep a healthy weight.
Obesity is a major risk factor for and cause of diabetes.

The sugar in colas, juices, etc., is harmful. Switch to Diet Coke or Diet
Pepsi.

Jeff

> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
Jim Chinnis - 28 Nov 2004 20:20 GMT
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in part:

>> tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>The sugar in colas, juices, etc., is harmful. Switch to Diet Coke or Diet
>Pepsi.

The sugar in whole foods comes with fiber, which affects digestion so as to
slow the rise in insulin. The sugar in colas is highly processed and the fiber
has been removed, along with the useful nutrients.

A simple rule--usually right--is that whole foods will be less likely to cause
diabetes than will processed foods.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
David Wright - 28 Nov 2004 21:19 GMT
>tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>diabetes. In my opinion, any at all is bad for you. Switch to whole foods and
>natural foods if you want to avoid diabetes.

It's not health food, but probably the biggest thing is to avoid being
overweight, no matter what it is that you're eating.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Jim Chinnis - 28 Nov 2004 21:33 GMT
wright@clam.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote in part:

>It's not health food, but probably the biggest thing is to avoid being
>overweight, no matter what it is that you're eating.

No question about that.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
tech27 - 28 Nov 2004 22:27 GMT
> tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:

> Yes. Drinking Coca-Cola is probably a major contributor to the epidemic of
> diabetes. In my opinion, any at all is bad for you. Switch to whole foods
> and
> natural foods if you want to avoid diabetes.
> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

You are a f.cking idiot Jim. Why are you posting BULLSHIT when the OP was
looking for some serious answers. Medical science has not found ANYTHING
THAT CAUSES DIABETES- you f.cking twit.

There are lots of contributing factors such as obesity, pregnancy, poor
diet, lack of exercise, stress, ageing,  and most obviously hereditary, but
they are just factors. There is no proof that a skinny unstressed male
athlete will not develop diabetes. In fact, if both his parents were
diabetics chances are he will be too eventually.

Now go away with your stupidity!
Jim Chinnis - 01 Dec 2004 03:16 GMT
"tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote in part:

>> tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Now go away with your stupidity!

For someone who indicated that he was concerned about receiving a diagnosis of
type II diabetes and asked about the advisability of continuing to consume 36
ounces of Coca-Cola each day, I would advise avoiding it.

The high fructose corn syrup in that quantity, regularly consumed, probably
contributes to weight gain and possibly to a variety of physiologic responses
not yet well understood that may lead to insulin resistance and or diabetes m.
There's a reasonable chance that moving down on the glycemic scale may
improves ones odds of developing DM.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
TheBarber - 28 Nov 2004 20:30 GMT
You are pricks for not answering.
Jim Chinnis - 28 Nov 2004 20:53 GMT
tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (TheBarber) wrote in part:

>You are pricks for not answering.
>
>*-----------------------*
>        Posted at:
>  www.GroupSrv.com
>*-----------------------*

And you need a newsreader.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
David Wright - 28 Nov 2004 21:21 GMT
>You are pricks for not answering.

Says some anonymous twat *one hour* after posting his original
question, and I've already seen multiple responses.  Hey, "The
Barber", drop dead.  Don't drink Coke, try injecting it directly
into a vein.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 29 Nov 2004 03:30 GMT
>You are pricks for not answering.

Gosh, I see you waited a whole HOUR! I'm sorry we weren't sitting at
our terminals on a Sunday afternoon waiting for your message.

We'll try harder next time.

a.shole.

PF
TheBarber - 28 Nov 2004 23:29 GMT
Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
Everything else suits a helathy diet. Although I drink a lot of coke.
About 3 cans a day I would say.
tech27 - 29 Nov 2004 00:04 GMT
> Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
> towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>  www.GroupSrv.com
> *-----------------------*

Very generally speaking your lifestyle does not indicate any concerns
regarding diet and weight. A good diet with 3 cokes a day is not bad,
although some would argue that no Coke is better. But they say that about
coffee, tea, etc.

My opinion is that nothing is bad for you in moderation. If you have no
family history of diabetes I wouldn't be concerned. But all of that means
nothing if you have bad luck. In my case, I was perfectly healthy but got
very seriously food poisoned. I was virtually comatose for almost 2 days -
don't recall a thing. When I recovered I almost immediately had  all the
classic symptoms of diabetes, polyphasia, polyuria (excessive thirst,
hunger), and general lethargy. My pancreas had been damaged by the poisoning
and had ceased to function.
Happy Dog - 29 Nov 2004 00:28 GMT
"TheBarber" <tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid>

< bipolar like mood swing noted... >

> Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
> towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
> Everything else suits a helathy diet. Although I drink a lot of coke.
> About 3 cans a day I would say.

That's not a huge amount, considering that you don't eat many other sources
of simple sugar carbs.  But it's still significant and maybe unnecessary.
There's a new Coke called "C2" out that is marketed toward Coke users who
want to cut carbs but don't like the taste of Diet Coke.  Reviews claim that
it tastes virtually the same.  Switching to it would cut your Coke sugar
intake by half.  1.5 Cokes a day isn't a risk in any sane person's book (for
a healthy person).

http://www.cokec2.com/pages/aboutC2.shtml

http://www.carbwire.com/2004/06/11/coke-c2-review

moo
PF Riley - 29 Nov 2004 03:36 GMT
>"TheBarber" <tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid>
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>intake by half.  1.5 Cokes a day isn't a risk in any sane person's book (for
>a healthy person).

This is irrelevant to the original question. Eating too much sugar
does not cause diabetes. This is such an annoying yet common
misconception, because people confuse cause and effect. People who
have diabetes have high sugar levels in their bloodstream. This is
CAUSED by the diabetes, not the other way around. You won't raise your
blood glucose levels by eating lots of sugar and "become" diabetic.

PF
Happy Dog - 29 Nov 2004 06:03 GMT
"PF Riley" <pfriley@watt-not.com>
>>"TheBarber" <tyler@chariho-dot-org.no-spam.invalid>
>>> Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> CAUSED by the diabetes, not the other way around. You won't raise your
> blood glucose levels by eating lots of sugar and "become" diabetic.

I know.  My point is that there are health benefits to reducing unnecessary
sugar intake and I suggested one.

m
tech27 - 30 Nov 2004 02:26 GMT
> I know.  My point is that there are health benefits to reducing
> unnecessary sugar intake and I suggested one.
>
> m
It has never been proven that "overworking" the pancreas will cause it to
fail, which does not mean that one shouldn't moderate sugar intake, as one
should moderate most things. Somewhat akin to overworking the heart will
wear it out (ok -the heart is a muscle and the analogy is a stretch). The
beauty of a healthy person with a functioning pancreas is that the body
reacts so fast that even consuming a bag of sugar, or half a chocolate cake
will not cause even slight spike in levels. Of course, all people are
different, but the regulatory function of the pancreas is such that high
sugar intake is immediately compensated for before any increase in levels.
Ed Mathes - 30 Nov 2004 03:00 GMT
I would suggest you look up "Beta-Cell Burnout" and Sulfonyleureas

> > I know.  My point is that there are health benefits to reducing
> > unnecessary sugar intake and I suggested one.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> different, but the regulatory function of the pancreas is such that high
> sugar intake is immediately compensated for before any increase in levels.
Happy Dog - 30 Nov 2004 09:22 GMT
"tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote in message
>> I know.  My point is that there are health benefits to reducing
>> unnecessary sugar intake and I suggested one.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> fail, which does not mean that one shouldn't moderate sugar intake, as one
> should moderate most things.

God's will that excesses be eschewed.  Save suger.

moo
David Rind - 29 Nov 2004 23:28 GMT
> This is irrelevant to the original question. Eating too much sugar
> does not cause diabetes. This is such an annoying yet common
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> PF

I think this answer is overly definitive. There's a fair amount of
reason to worry that high glycemic index foods (and sugar is such a
food) can increase the risk of type II diabetes.

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David Rind
drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

PF Riley - 30 Nov 2004 04:46 GMT
>> This is irrelevant to the original question. Eating too much sugar
>> does not cause diabetes. This is such an annoying yet common
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>reason to worry that high glycemic index foods (and sugar is such a
>food) can increase the risk of type II diabetes.

But given that simple sugars are a relatively recent addition to the
human diet and believed by some, Atkins notwithstanding, to be a main
cause of obesity and even hypercholesterolemia in Western society, and
given that obesity is the major risk factor for type 2 diabetes, could
it simply be that high sugar intake is a contributing factor to
obesity, and the obesity causes the insulin resistance and ultimately
diabetes?

PF
David Rind - 01 Dec 2004 02:12 GMT
>>>This is irrelevant to the original question. Eating too much sugar
>>>does not cause diabetes. This is such an annoying yet common
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> PF

Yes, that is possible. But there is evidence from animals to suggest
that high glycemic index foods actually promote diabetes independent of
effects on weight. It's not that I think the issue is proven, but rather
that I think your statement that eating sugar won't lead to diabetes is
also not proven and may well turn out to be incorrect.

Signature

David Rind
drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

Daniel Prince - 01 Dec 2004 05:51 GMT
>I think this answer is overly definitive. There's a fair amount of
>reason to worry that high glycemic index foods (and sugar is such a
>food) can increase the risk of type II diabetes.

Is this increase in risk independent of the increase in risk caused
by the weight gain that high glycemic index foods cause?
Signature

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until he either jumps up in the air to bat at it or zooms around
in a circle until he gets too dizzy to stand up.  What is cruel about
it is that I don't do it nearly as much as he wants me to.

David Rind - 01 Dec 2004 12:21 GMT
>>I think this answer is overly definitive. There's a fair amount of
>>reason to worry that high glycemic index foods (and sugar is such a
>>food) can increase the risk of type II diabetes.
>
> Is this increase in risk independent of the increase in risk caused
> by the weight gain that high glycemic index foods cause?

There is concern that it is an independent risk (based mainly on animal
models). Again, I am not saying that such a risk has been definitively
proven.

Signature

David Rind
drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

tech27 - 30 Nov 2004 02:17 GMT
> This is irrelevant to the original question. Eating too much sugar
> does not cause diabetes. This is such an annoying yet common
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> PF

Absolutely correct. People have many misconceptions, like when a diabetic in
the throws of a hypoglycemic event eats a donut or drinks a regular ginerale
people think he is committing suicide. Public misconceptions are one thing,
but when people post their misconceptions as factual replies it makes my
blood boil (and blood sugar drop).
David Wright - 29 Nov 2004 03:50 GMT
>Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
>towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
>Everything else suits a helathy diet. Although I drink a lot of coke.
>About 3 cans a day I would say.

Substituting diet Coke for one of those wouldn't hurt.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 30 Nov 2004 05:01 GMT
>>Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
>>towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
>>Everything else suits a helathy diet. Although I drink a lot of coke.
>>About 3 cans a day I would say.
>
>Substituting diet Coke for one of those wouldn't hurt.

Ah, but some would say artificial sweeteners still induce insulin
release, causing increased hunger.
David Wright - 30 Nov 2004 05:15 GMT
>>>Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
>>>towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Ah, but some would say artificial sweeteners still induce insulin
>release, causing increased hunger.

Oh, sure, but I'm trying to avoid obesity, and I'm going to assume
that the Barber's iron will keeps him from succumbing to the
supposedly induced hunger.

Besides, you're forgetting that, according to the Alternative Krowd,
aspartame is probably the most toxic substance known next to
plutonium.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 01 Dec 2004 06:41 GMT
>>Ah, but some would say artificial sweeteners still induce insulin
>>release, causing increased hunger.
>
>Oh, sure, but I'm trying to avoid obesity, and I'm going to assume
>that the Barber's iron will keeps him from succumbing to the
>supposedly induced hunger.

Lady: Do you have a diet special?

Waiter: Yes we do, Ma'am.

Lady: Great. I'll have two of them.

>Besides, you're forgetting that, according to the Alternative Krowd,
>aspartame is probably the most toxic substance known next to
>plutonium.

Don't you mean... mercury?

PF
David Wright - 03 Dec 2004 03:21 GMT
>>>Ah, but some would say artificial sweeteners still induce insulin
>>>release, causing increased hunger.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Don't you mean... mercury?

Oh, right.  That's the second-most toxic substance.  Aspartame is
third.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Happy Dog - 30 Nov 2004 09:29 GMT
"PF Riley" <pfriley@watt-not.com> wrote in message news:

>>>Well then I have no worries if I am not overweight, and leaning
>>>towards underweight? I never eat candy, or sweets, just drink coke.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Ah, but some would say artificial sweeteners still induce insulin
> release, causing increased hunger.

Idiot.  Some evidence of this?

m
David Wright - 01 Dec 2004 01:12 GMT
>"PF Riley" <pfriley@watt-not.com> wrote in message news:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Idiot.  Some evidence of this?

You know, HD, it would be OK with me if you refrained from calling PF
an idiot.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Happy Dog - 01 Dec 2004 03:45 GMT
"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in
>>"PF Riley" <pfriley@watt-not.com> wrote in message news:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> You know, HD, it would be OK with me if you refrained from calling PF
> an idiot.

Oops!  My sincere apologies.  It was about 4AM and I had this plus a couple
other messages open.  I meant this as a reply to Not Dr C.  Obviously
screwed up.  In fact, I agree with PF's statement.  Thanks for pointing this
out.  I'd email an apology but it's an anti-spam address.

le moo
PF Riley - 01 Dec 2004 06:54 GMT
>Oops!  My sincere apologies.  It was about 4AM and I had this plus a couple
>other messages open.  I meant this as a reply to Not Dr C.  Obviously
>screwed up.  In fact, I agree with PF's statement.  Thanks for pointing this
>out.  I'd email an apology but it's an anti-spam address.

No need to apologize -- I am an idiot. In fact, it didn't occur to me
at all that your calling me such could have been in error. Here's why:

Firstly, I posted something that was pure conjecture without backing
it up with evidence. (Although, in my defense, to avoid technically
being "wrong", I do and did often preface such statements with "some
would say..." or "some believe..." etc.)

Secondly, when I did look for evidence in support of my statement, I
found only evidence to the contrary:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/4/721

"It was suggested from short-term studies that artificial,
nonenergetic sweeteners can increase appetite through cephalic
stimulation (eg, the taste, smell, and sight of food) and that
aspartame in particular may have a paradoxical stimulating effect on
appetite. We were not able to confirm such an effect in this long-term
study, and our findings were therefore in agreement with several
previous short-term studies."

See also Figure 1.

PF
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Nov 2004 01:55 GMT
> I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
> the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes.

There may be cause for concern if there is type 2 diabetes (T2DM) in
members of your family.

> Can someone please
> tell me if coca cola can cause diabetes, and if so, how much per day
> would be bad for you?

In someone who is not genetically predisposed, Coca Cola will not
bring out diabetes.

In someone who is genetically predisposed, over-consumption of
anything (including soft-drinks) can lead to diabetes.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
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Mack? - 29 Nov 2004 15:20 GMT
>> I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
>> the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Andrew

liar.  coca cola does not cause diabetes.  chung is quack and fraud.

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Ludwig - 30 Nov 2004 04:00 GMT
> ...
> >> Can someone please
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> M?ck??
> Type 1 since 1975

Coke does not exactly causes diabetes, but it can certainly contribute.

"Insulin resistance appears to be caused at least in part by inheritance
and in part by high levels of fat -- in the form of triglycerides ...
High levels of triglycerides in the blood ... are not so much the result
of dietary fat as they are of carbohydrate consumption and existing body
fat."  (Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution).

In other words, eating too much sugar and carbohydrates, or just eating
too much, contributes to the development of type 2 diabetes.  But there
is nothing special about Coke.  Pepsi does the same thing. (and
pancakes, honey, bread, etc.)

IMHO, a small amount of coke is not harmful to a healthy person without
diabetes or diabetes predisposition, who is not overweight.  (Like a can
or two per day).  But why not at least switch to the sugar free version?
Almost everyone (except those with PKU disease) would probably be better
off.
Shirley Ann Tatum - 28 Dec 2004 15:37 GMT
Dr.  What about protein eating coca cola?
MU - 28 Dec 2004 17:19 GMT
> What about protein eating coca cola?

Don't inject it intra muscularly and you will be fine.
Steve Harris  sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com - 29 Nov 2004 02:48 GMT
> I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
> the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes. Can someone please
> tell me if coca cola can cause diabetes, and if so, how much per day
> would be bad for you?

COMMENT:

Happy to. Coca Cola does cause diabetes. An amount of 3 cans per day
is okay, but at 4 cans per day, your pancreas will turn into old
leather within 5 years. Then you will die without insulin.

So, keep Coke consumption at exactly 3 of the 10 oz cans of Coke or
less, per day. That's 30 fluid ounces, or 0.887 L. Or else 3.14 cans
of diet Pepsi, or 2.6 cans of Dr. Pepper, which are all exactly
equivalent.

Sometimes people ask whether or not, if they skip Coke for a day, they
can drink more than 3 cans the NEXT day. The answer is that your
geometric mean consumption of coke cannot exceed 22 cans per week. So
take your number of cans each day, square that number, add up all the
squared numbers in a week, and take the square root of that.  If it's
more than 22, you'd better save up for your test-meter.

Helpfully,

SBH
tech27 - 30 Nov 2004 02:13 GMT
"Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:79cf0a8.0411281848.5ad102eb@posting.google.com...

> Happy to. Coca Cola does cause diabetes. An amount of 3 cans per day
> is okay, but at 4 cans per day, your pancreas will turn into old
> leather within 5 years. Then you will die without insulin.

Bullshit. Absolute crap. Show us any studies that prove 3 cans per day will
do that. Why the f.ck do idiots like you make up stupid sh.t like this. f.ck 
off if you don't know. Idiot!

What about other factors? Does it matter if you weigh 97 lbs or 300 lbs? Is
4 the max for any person? How about a lab rat? Moron.

> So, keep Coke consumption at exactly 3 of the 10 oz cans of Coke or
> less, per day. That's 30 fluid ounces, or 0.887 L. Or else 3.14 cans
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> squared numbers in a week, and take the square root of that.  If it's
> more than 22, you'd better save up for your test-meter.

Such a bullshit analysis! It's amazing you would even attempt to quantify
your bullshit ideas.

> Helpfully,
>
> SBH

Helpfully? How about "IGNORANTLY"?
David Wright - 30 Nov 2004 03:59 GMT
>"Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>message news:79cf0a8.0411281848.5ad102eb@posting.google.com...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>What about other factors? Does it matter if you weigh 97 lbs or 300 lbs? Is
>4 the max for any person? How about a lab rat? Moron.

You see, tech27, this is why you need to work on the ol' anger
management issues.  You have just been trolled.  Now take the hook
out of your mouth and contemplate the fact that if you actually had
a sense of humor, you would not have had to remove the hook.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)

>> So, keep Coke consumption at exactly 3 of the 10 oz cans of Coke or
>> less, per day. That's 30 fluid ounces, or 0.887 L. Or else 3.14 cans
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Helpfully? How about "IGNORANTLY"?
Happy Dog - 30 Nov 2004 09:14 GMT
"tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote in
> "Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>>>
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> Bullshit. Absolute crap.

You're new here, no?

moo
TheBarber - 29 Nov 2004 03:29 GMT
As for diabetes being in the family, my grandfather on my father's
side got diabetes after my father was born.....So technically, I
would have no inheritence of diabetes, since my grandfather got it
after his son (my dad) was already born and far afterwards got
diabetes.

So yeah, I guess I am fine.  :)
PF Riley - 29 Nov 2004 03:38 GMT
>As for diabetes being in the family, my grandfather on my father's
>side got diabetes after my father was born.....So technically, I
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>So yeah, I guess I am fine.  :)

I will assume you're just "playing" stupid.

PF
Ed Mathes - 29 Nov 2004 04:05 GMT
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...........

> As for diabetes being in the family, my grandfather on my father's
> side got diabetes after my father was born.....So technically, I
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tech27 - 30 Nov 2004 02:19 GMT
Hereditary predilection for diabetes is either there or it isn't. It doesn't
matter who gets it when. It's not like AIDS - where it won't be passed to
offspring if the parent was not infected before or during pregnancy.

Are you really that dim?

> This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...........
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Ed Mathes - 30 Nov 2004 03:01 GMT
Hmmm...I hope that was address to "the barber" and not me......

> Hereditary predilection for diabetes is either there or it isn't. It doesn't
> matter who gets it when. It's not like AIDS - where it won't be passed to
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gman99 - 29 Nov 2004 15:26 GMT
> I drink a lot of coca cola everyday, but I am starting to worry about
> the possibility of being diagnosed with diabetes. Can someone please
> tell me if coca cola can cause diabetes, and if so, how much per day
> would be bad for you?

Depends, are you a fatty ?? Do the extra calories in Coke keep the fat on
?? Switch to diet coke if you're too worried...you'll save money at the
dentist too.

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